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Chasm / David Icke
« on: October 16, 2010, 12:51:30 PM »
Knowing that David Icke exposed conspiracies about reptiles and such, I never wanted to give more attention to him. But after reading an interview with certain metal band in DLA (Spear Of Longinus) where he is mentioned (in a positive way)... well, I didn't try to read his ideas. But that interview stayed in my mind, and I decided to search for him on the internet months later (today). Reading about his ideas, he seems to write a lot about the nature of conciousness too, not only conspiracies, wich made me want to check out his books. I never read a book by him, but I intend to buy one in the near future, but I'm interested in knowing if any of the extremely intelligent, cultured people here at ANUS forums have ever come across a book by him, and what did they think.
I admit to having a strong tendency to want to read "fantastic" stuff... the more surreal and idiotic an author's philosophy seems, the more I want to know it. Sometmies I think there is some kind of "code" in "spiritual" writers, that is to be interpreted in kind of a symbolic way (I am 100% certain that is the case with many of them, as all know, religious texts are like this). Or it seems that the more a person "advances" in spiritual philosophy, the more crazy and paranoid it becomes, for example, I never read a book by M. Serrano, but in a interview he stated that he believes the joos manipulate people trought waves (or something like that) kind of telepathically. A text by Serrano is featured on the Free Speech Project, that means he is in some way appreciated by the likes of ANUS, that in turns connects him a little with David Icke, since this kind of apparently ridiculous statements of mind control, from what I've read of him, seems to be like something he would believe, so there you go, I just made a small connection between ANUS and Icke to further make my topic interesting. I know, it is a little pathetic coonection and they probably don't have a lot to do with each other, and also MS has little to do with ANUS, but you can't deny my train of tought.
Anyway, anybody has anything to say, or read his book?
I admit to having a strong tendency to want to read "fantastic" stuff... the more surreal and idiotic an author's philosophy seems, the more I want to know it. Sometmies I think there is some kind of "code" in "spiritual" writers, that is to be interpreted in kind of a symbolic way (I am 100% certain that is the case with many of them, as all know, religious texts are like this). Or it seems that the more a person "advances" in spiritual philosophy, the more crazy and paranoid it becomes, for example, I never read a book by M. Serrano, but in a interview he stated that he believes the joos manipulate people trought waves (or something like that) kind of telepathically. A text by Serrano is featured on the Free Speech Project, that means he is in some way appreciated by the likes of ANUS, that in turns connects him a little with David Icke, since this kind of apparently ridiculous statements of mind control, from what I've read of him, seems to be like something he would believe, so there you go, I just made a small connection between ANUS and Icke to further make my topic interesting. I know, it is a little pathetic coonection and they probably don't have a lot to do with each other, and also MS has little to do with ANUS, but you can't deny my train of tought.
Anyway, anybody has anything to say, or read his book?
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Chasm / Violence in Antiquity
« on: October 11, 2010, 12:30:21 AM »
Do you think that the world was improved regarding violence and atrocities comparing to the far past? I tend to agree that a lot of things were better in the past, but people always complain that the present time is the one with less violence. Altough I don't think so, with all the modern weapon technologies.
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Chasm / Bible Quotes
« on: October 01, 2010, 06:13:48 PM »
I have read in ANUS many times insinuations that Jesus Christ was soft and feminine, with the intention to mock him. But the Bible is quite the hard book. I invite you all to post your favorite bible parts.
Luke 19
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Luke 19
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
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Chasm / Is it possible to recreate forests?
« on: September 30, 2010, 05:54:24 AM »
A person told me on an internet discussion forum that forest engeneers can recreate forests that have been destroyed. Does anyone know if that's true, or would it be a poor copy of a forest, compared with the original natural one formed trought the milleniuns?
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Chasm / The Road To Revolution
« on: September 19, 2010, 02:57:26 PM »
http://zinelibrary.info/files/The.Road_.to_.Revolution--Ted.Kaczynski.pdf
Book with all essays written by Kaczysnki plus some letters and other things
Book with all essays written by Kaczysnki plus some letters and other things
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I read an old post here where one moderator advised a guy to listen to classical music with his Id, wich is mathematical.
That made me think about the relation between music and philosophy. The advice he gave helped me a bit, from what I understood it is the musical equivalent of religions who tell us to disregard the material things in favor of spiritual ones. I never read plato, but from what I read about him here in ANUS it is similar to his pure world of toughts. There is like a brain who receives the sounds and another that converts the sounds into a philosophical, kind of mathematical experience.
Metal songs are sensual, but they are better interpreted mathematically?
That made me think about the relation between music and philosophy. The advice he gave helped me a bit, from what I understood it is the musical equivalent of religions who tell us to disregard the material things in favor of spiritual ones. I never read plato, but from what I read about him here in ANUS it is similar to his pure world of toughts. There is like a brain who receives the sounds and another that converts the sounds into a philosophical, kind of mathematical experience.
Metal songs are sensual, but they are better interpreted mathematically?
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Chasm / The problem Of Consciousness In The Un-Divine View
« on: August 19, 2010, 04:50:36 PM »
I'm not a guy of much culture about biology, sciences in general. But I do know scientists are smart guys who discovered a lot of things we didn't knew and proved themselves right trought experiments and the inventions we use. The majority of them, I believe, think that the world is only matter and we're biological machines. I see nothing wrong with materialism, after all, from what I know the scientists proved all came from hydrogen and whatever, altought they tought the atom couldn't be divised anymore, they discovered themselves wrong. Maybe there are even more invisible stuff. But to what extent are we only machines?
After analyzing the question of matter and ourselves and our conscious selves, I can't help but ask this: What is consciousness? How can matter be organized in a way that not only do we perceive the external world but also feel it (different from a robot, or does anyone believes that a robot made to act like a human really is "feeling" something?)? How to explain things like the taste of food, and I do not mean the experience of a living being eating something, the brain judging it as good so it goes on eating, and if it was judged as bad to stop eating, but to feel the flavor. Or even more sutil things like the feeling of listening to great music, or love for humanity, etc. I don't think we could ever make robots who would have inside them the same stuff going on that we have, only respond in a similar manner to us to the external world.
I'm not even close to resting on the side of either science or religion. The science stuff I accept is mostly because a lot of people do and the scientists say so. But I'm inclined towards believing in science for the most, and many scientists believe we are like machines. But what IS pain? Yes, I'm sure they have an explanation for how pain happens, but what is it? What is feeling? Yes I know, electrical impulses in the brain or whatever. Now imagine your brain with all the electrical stuff making the neurons and other stuff work to present you with your view of reality, that seems reasonable right? But what is this view of reality? Or better yet, what is us? After all, even if reducing it to mere activity of the brain, we need and observer, right? Or not? The observer is the greatest mystery. Many materialists understand how the brain works, but how do the observer works? Many understand that we get a lot of pleasure after physical exercise (Btw people, don't forget to exercise, stay healthy) due to endorphins. But what IS the sensation caused by the endorphins? Can you describe it in purely materialistic terms?
On the other hand things like physical alterations on the brain changing human behavior drastically, with each area altered or damaged reacting on it's function makes me confused and not wanting to believe in spirits and "God".
Either all things have consciousness on some level, thus our selves being just a more advanced form of organized matter (wich has conscience in all atoms, since all things have consciousness) or consciousness is a miracle, altought a miracle that can be damaged by altering the brain.
Please explain your view, especially if you're Theist or agree that we are biological machines and nothing more. Agnostics will just agree with my doubt and uncertainty
After analyzing the question of matter and ourselves and our conscious selves, I can't help but ask this: What is consciousness? How can matter be organized in a way that not only do we perceive the external world but also feel it (different from a robot, or does anyone believes that a robot made to act like a human really is "feeling" something?)? How to explain things like the taste of food, and I do not mean the experience of a living being eating something, the brain judging it as good so it goes on eating, and if it was judged as bad to stop eating, but to feel the flavor. Or even more sutil things like the feeling of listening to great music, or love for humanity, etc. I don't think we could ever make robots who would have inside them the same stuff going on that we have, only respond in a similar manner to us to the external world.
I'm not even close to resting on the side of either science or religion. The science stuff I accept is mostly because a lot of people do and the scientists say so. But I'm inclined towards believing in science for the most, and many scientists believe we are like machines. But what IS pain? Yes, I'm sure they have an explanation for how pain happens, but what is it? What is feeling? Yes I know, electrical impulses in the brain or whatever. Now imagine your brain with all the electrical stuff making the neurons and other stuff work to present you with your view of reality, that seems reasonable right? But what is this view of reality? Or better yet, what is us? After all, even if reducing it to mere activity of the brain, we need and observer, right? Or not? The observer is the greatest mystery. Many materialists understand how the brain works, but how do the observer works? Many understand that we get a lot of pleasure after physical exercise (Btw people, don't forget to exercise, stay healthy) due to endorphins. But what IS the sensation caused by the endorphins? Can you describe it in purely materialistic terms?
On the other hand things like physical alterations on the brain changing human behavior drastically, with each area altered or damaged reacting on it's function makes me confused and not wanting to believe in spirits and "God".
Either all things have consciousness on some level, thus our selves being just a more advanced form of organized matter (wich has conscience in all atoms, since all things have consciousness) or consciousness is a miracle, altought a miracle that can be damaged by altering the brain.
Please explain your view, especially if you're Theist or agree that we are biological machines and nothing more. Agnostics will just agree with my doubt and uncertainty
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Metal / Do you value content over appearence?
« on: August 15, 2010, 01:41:28 AM »
If so, would you consider that it is possible, since what matters is the essence, that good hip hop could be made that is at the same level of good metal, and above mediocre metal?
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Chasm / The supernatural: real or crap
« on: July 13, 2010, 06:34:06 PM »
The teachings of Madam Blavatsky are fascinating and so are her books. But what about her supernatural claims? I can accept writing in trance, astral projection, "enlightment", visions, a lot of things. But what about "materialization", telekinesis, telepathy, etc., abilities that she claimed to have. I'm starting to research the occult because even if the paranormal claims are false, it's a legitimate brain change body of techniques. Please, people who have researched the occult, write your toughts.
The guy who made the topic Occultism in metal: Please write about this for me (magic). You wrote things on that topic wich show that you believe that magic can alter the world (not just the mind).
Somehow this is very important for me to know. I'm very interested on the opinion of forum members. Devamitra, you seem to have researched those subjects, to what conclusion did you come: Can magic or other supernatural things alter the physical world?
Was blavatsky and others who claimed those powers only doing it to attract people to their philosophies?
I'm going to read Autobiography of a Yogi soon.
The guy who made the topic Occultism in metal: Please write about this for me (magic). You wrote things on that topic wich show that you believe that magic can alter the world (not just the mind).
Somehow this is very important for me to know. I'm very interested on the opinion of forum members. Devamitra, you seem to have researched those subjects, to what conclusion did you come: Can magic or other supernatural things alter the physical world?
Was blavatsky and others who claimed those powers only doing it to attract people to their philosophies?
I'm going to read Autobiography of a Yogi soon.
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Chasm / Help with old bill white website
« on: July 13, 2010, 05:53:04 PM »
This is a topic that can be deleted when the answer comes. There was a website by bill white, wich I believed is still archived on archive.org, that was his ploitical campaign website, he was running for mayor, or another job. I forgot the adress of the page, in it there was a description of the history of the world by him on wich he exposed his spiritual views, talked about atlantis, etc. I'm really interested in reading this as I am researching those subjects. If anyone knows the url, tell me
Thanks
Thanks
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Chasm / Sushil_Yadav's Text
« on: July 07, 2010, 05:35:06 PM »
http://www.culturechange.org/industrial_mind.html
I bet a lot of people remember this. Extremely important text written by a guy who then started posting it everywhere. It's about how we are wrecking our minds with technologies who provide us with fast visuals, fast sounds, fast cars, etc.
Especially destructive are TV, the Internet, Mp3 Players, DVDs, Cell Phones.
I bet a lot of people remember this. Extremely important text written by a guy who then started posting it everywhere. It's about how we are wrecking our minds with technologies who provide us with fast visuals, fast sounds, fast cars, etc.
Especially destructive are TV, the Internet, Mp3 Players, DVDs, Cell Phones.
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Chasm / Questions for ANUS staff
« on: July 06, 2010, 04:21:19 PM »
I tought it might be a good idea to start a topic for all the questions users might have relating to ANUS or ANUS philosophy, so people on the site administration can answer. Short questions that don't deserve a whole topic, I'll start:
1-Is the site for the mass extermination of mentally retarded people (down's syndrome, etc.)?
1-Is the site for the mass extermination of mentally retarded people (down's syndrome, etc.)?