I should have known you were the only guy who would read through all of this and comment

Cargest You take the "The Matrix 1" and expand it to Reloaded and Revolutions, where a reconciling view of humans and "machines" is presented 

But The Matrix 1, the Manichaean, needed to have been made this way in order to achieve such success. Only the reconciling view between you, me and this author is the following: This is a poorly made translation (in need of revision) of some 80% of a collection of fragments taken from two books from the author (whose work has more than 1000 pages). The rest of the fragments consist of a letter to a friend which I did not put in. This is a selection by another person which I just translated, focused on the physics part but, as it is shown, there is a whole other book just about the physics.

Perhaps it is precisely you worrying about it being conflicted or separated that is blocking you from assimilating the true purpose of the writing.

If you think about it, if everything truly is as you presented, your distinction of "duality" and "non-duality" (you did not use those words but that's what you mean right) would ALSO be ultimately irrelevant.

What he tries to do is discourage the person from projecting all of his self to what the buddhists would call the samsaric world, get away of the smoke and mirrors. Only something with polarity can shake things up in the person's mind and avoid too much blissful inebriation. (not that I'm an example of a warrior. I just read the stuff)

If you're interested, search for "Gnostic Fragments" "nimrod de rosario" and read more gnostic fragments, with better translation. So I can only say things are talked more in the books, one of which is a novel advised to continually be read, so: It is experimental and transformative, thus the "polarity" of it is not to be surprised. Also Nigredo of alchemy or whatever (this is total pseudo-shit: I know nothing of alchemy, but it gets tossed around so much I'd say this negativity has to do with the necessary nigredo of alchemy).

That said I think I kinda agree with you and I keep being drawn to the writings of this man. Maybe he has had some kind of technological vision on which was necessary a work that did not stagnate like other religions, but went always against the created so as to always lead the one to purity.

Read the gnostic fragments. Thanks for your comments, hope you like my answer. I am not a follower of anything, but this seems like special knowledge. I've been reading this specific text for like 2 years almost and interpretations change...

What would you call a guy who, in the middle of a game of sport of your choice, says: This is not real. These rules are all previous agreements between us. No one really wins or loses except in our minds. This game is a construct, it does not really exist. This is only a foul because we think it is and that is only allowed because we think it is; ?

An idiot, right? That's because we all know that the game is made up, but we're just playing it, so pointing this information out is equal or worse than having down's syndrome.

But what if this knowledge was lost? Bill White delivers an interesting version of truth and the United States. I'm aware he exposed similar ideas in his book Centuries of Revolution. I'm anxious to read it.

June 17, 2012

As you may know, since my first experience at the hands of the US government, I have been a very unwell person.

At the FCI-Beckley, and, later, at MCC-Chicago, I was given a pill – which you looked up for me – which the BOP calls an “allergy pill”, but is, as we discovered, an anti-depressant that can cause psychosis.

What this pill did was layer another set of images – dream images – over the images of nominal “waking” reality. Essentially, I experienced multiple realities at once, and began communicating with images in the “dream” who gave me information “reality” that I was later able to confirm as having a factual basis.

After my release, I continued to have terrible nightmares – nightmares that would continue into my waking life. I would often awaken, believing I was imminently going to be attacked. I often remained in these dream states for hours after gaining consciousness. As a result of the change in consciousness that occurred in the BOP, I was unable to function.

What I have discovered is that these nightmare images were really projections into my mind of the dreamscape of a demonic being. As I outline in my Centuries of Revolution, America has been created by cults dedicated to a demonic beast with three aspects. In Centuries, I don’t really address the theme of this being’s binding or sleeping in the earth, but I have discussed this elsewhere. Both America and the New World Order it has attempted are the product of this beast imposing its will upon reality – its dreaming. Its methodology is degradation – abuse of the outer forms so as to create inner transformation. My dreams are, or were, its thwarted desires. I had what it had desired – but it was clear that if I remained within its dream that I was doomed.

You see, Vishnu sits on the right hand of Brahma and Shiva on his left. Vishnu danced dharma into being, but in the Kali Yuga, dharma and karma are inactive. The substance of the world is maja and its changes are the dance. Kali and Shiva dance death – Time – into the world – Shiva’s serene dream shaping Kali’s moving form. Within this whirling maja are the demons, each of which shape their particular realm. Beneath the United States, a serpent lies dreaming. Its children – the Jews and reptiles and their cult – do its work. But the whole is but a figment of the monster’s imagination.

This world is the projection of the consciousness of “sleeping” gods onto the minds of us “dreamers” who reside within it. As such, the only rational act was to abandon my worldly possessions, detach, and leave the dreamworld. Rather than awaken, I decided to explore a bit more widely.

As I suspected, “reality” broke down as I approached the borders of the so-called United States. I do not truly believe that I physically travelled anywhere – the “physicality” of things is just a means of experiencing a change in psychic state. I got free of the mind of the evil being in Washington and, briefly, of all evil beings. I experienced a beautiful reality – like Plato’s philosopher seeing the sun. Clearly, my inner being is not yet strong enough, because the serpent drug me back. But the serpent does not hold me the way he did, and I can see that in its dreamlings, who lack the confidence and power they once had.

I am not William White because William White is an illusion. One could say he was created by the government to distract the people from the poverty and misery of a failed America, but, on a metaphysical level, he was dreamed into being by these demons for a purpose. No longer subject to this demonic dream, I can no longer be White.

- AKA “White”

Interesting variation here:
http://stopnetspend.com/pravda/letter.pdf

I'm not sure, but it seems abandoning this dreamworld means suicide, or at least a hermit life. Or a normal life devoid of all illusions of hope.

I didn't think you'd like it.

There is evidence for the attacks on WTC. There are books written about it, articles (both by respectful and not so much people), youtube videos (same thing). I would not judge the WTC conspiracies on the basis of any video that contains the word "illuminati". But there are some curious articles, books and videos. Even Charlie Sheen jumped in.

About the joker, only strange thing I know about that is the fact that there were look-alikes of him at the olympics (I posted the picture here) while also featuring batman and robin. Crazy.

And the people that relate mind-control to some of these things, the thing is, if there were mind-controlled people or experiments with them gone bad, we would never know and would treat them as criminals, damaged people or wackos as we do with shooters like Cho, etc... The thing is we are currently working and advancing everyday on mind-controll and interactions of mind and matter technology. This is absolutely unquestionable, it is already completely proved. Plus there are some reports from the past that I don't know what to make of, like professional hypnotist controlling a person, including from a distant place, to commit a crime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cgRa4-S-UhQ#at=11

The video above could have been a joke by the people involved or not. Except that there is only one right answer, and we don't know which one.

One band I think manages to use a lot of form, aesthetics, magnitude or whatever you want to call it and still deliver good songs is Killing Joke. But they're so basic in a way, and a little pop-oriented (I'd call it pop-sensitivity) and formulatic sometimes, that I think you will say you no longer listen to them anymore, aquarius.

That's exactly the answer I was hoping for. It actually was way more "archetypal" of what I'm talking about than I expected. I did not expect for someone to straight away identify the shooter with the society you envision.

First of all the primary force in society seems to be good, courage, morals, thriving. Or else how to explain all the savings of lives by firemen, rescuemen and others, the building of complex and great buildings, the creation of works of art that are great, the massive and boring work that is necessary to keep things smooth, etc... Now corruption and other stuff are a sign that people are avoiding doing what's necessary and prefering luxury. If this rises, there can be collapse. This is just the way I think. But if there is not collapse yet, if you can get complex stuff light energy, computers, school and health, business, technology, police work, is because people are working hard and dying for this. So this is no excuse to go around shooting children because they are mathematical points in a materialistic universe. This seems to not only be lunacy and cruelty but also diminishes the value, at least in the eyes of the crowd, of the action of truly intelligent and worth-full people who not only do not take out their frustration on others, but also sacrifice for the greater good, and I do not mean charity.

And second, as hard as it is for me to accept, materialism is a somewhat neutral and liquid concept, that is, you can at the same time conclude that nothing has meaning and there is no guilt etc.. and go shooting crazy, you can also get the type of people that are so humanistic as to go around complaining about thieves getting beat up etc. Most materialists, I would think, believe that they have more reasons to care about the loss of life and suffering than others, because they think this is the only experience (from birth to death) that any person is gonna have. On the other hand, knowing that it isn't might make the act of killing people easier.

Not giving a fuck about a child and killing it just because you have no bond with them is a gross error and monstrous. Your envisioned society should never let people take a plane to another continent as they might want to murder the children there for being only objects of loathing and confusion with no connection to him.

I think a society on which the kind of people who would thrive are school shooters would not be made of the better people of courage, wisdom and endurance that the website talks about.

Not that I do not understand what you say: I just draw a line. I have killers that I once admired too and still find their ideas interesting.

And also, I never say I am one of the bright, beautiful, courageous smart people. Just to make things clear.

That's why I brought up the altered states, and I guess you're right fallot: Metal has always been a big "blur" in most songs for me. I guess I appreciated them more when I thought about it than when I listened... unless the "eureka" moment dawned. And this moment makes me realize how deep metal really is. What it represents. And it is not only mental images of fantasy or darkness, but pure endless appreciation for the sounds that you're interpreting in the moment. Seems like an alive wall of sound.

Yes. I often wonder if when it is said here that cannabis can improve on bad music as if it were something bad, is it really? If you appreciated that music you had an experience, and you were responsible for it. There's no such thing as turning bad music into good music: You probably wouldn't like to hear disharmonic sounds when stoned.

Leaving the cannabis aside, I was only using it to make a point: of course it is useful to categorize music in styles and quality, superior and inferior, but as long as human experience of music (the goal of music) goes, a scientific mind cannot dissociate from the greater whole, that is causality, emotional factors, texture, possible associations that may be personal (from some fetish, texture or spoken piece in a song it means something to you and you only, not to the majority of people that will listen), a desired ambiànce, hypnotizing or trance-inducing rythm, a striking singing performance, and many, many more factors.

Thus it can be talked what is superior and inferior, but for me, this is different from what is enjoyable or not.

Does electronic music that sounds boring while alone suddenly become cool at a party or nightclub? That music has a purpose, to blend in with the action and environment?