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Interzone / Re: Karma or Valhalla?
« on: June 14, 2010, 09:15:52 AM »
I think scourge may be right, those concepts may be pointing to the same thing.

Now reincarnation is something I'll never know: Deep inside I think it's untrue, but there are evidences. I plan to buy I book when I arrange some money, Reincarnation Biology or something, two volumes with detailed studies including photographs of scars supposedly of the deceased person that manifested on the living reincarnation.

What I do believe is that a lot who claim to see past lives really did, and believed that. My conclusion is, that's a consequence of a kind of spiritual enlightment, and it may be true or not that it comes from reincarnation, but the feeling certainly is real (many think it can be just the conscience of the continuation of life and knowing that you came from a long line of ancestors). Another book I plan to read is the autobiography of an yogi. Those mystics, I believe they reached enlightment, and many of them claim past lives and believe in reincarnation.

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What's important about those statements also is that people who are not school shooters are starting to promote ANUS related ideologies (or hitler, radical fascists like pentti linkola or killers like kaczynski). Not that those guys were bad, but I think ANUS is now trying to spread its message to the general public, and it's good to see important people who are not considered evil by the public to speak up on new ideas for society

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Interzone / Re: Distrust of antidepressants
« on: June 13, 2010, 11:42:53 PM »

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Interzone / Re: End of post-WWII order
« on: June 11, 2010, 06:52:47 PM »
To speak the truth, I have no idea what economy is, how it works, it puzzles me and I don't understand how people can even discuss it. I'm not asking to be explained, just stating that economics is a shadowed area for me. Maybe that can change by reading books.

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Prince Charles yesterday urged the world to follow Islamic 'spiritual principles' in order to protect the environment.
In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man's destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions - but particularly those of Islam.
He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285332/Follow-Islamic-way-save-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html#ixzz0qZTpc1CP


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Interzone / Re: The restless American undead
« on: May 30, 2010, 03:37:16 AM »
I love films like the evil dead. The visuals are also nice, the atmosphere.

But I have to say, I may be missing the point, but altought the story is good the way it is, I have some problems with the supernatural story: can a book really conjure demons like that? Can evil trees exist? Should all be taken "metaphorically"? Sometimes I'm put off by the unrealistical fantasy.

Movies like lord of the rings, altought pure fantasy, are more believable for me because they try to portray atotally different world. But films showing things that hardly ever existed put me down a little

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Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: May 29, 2010, 12:43:03 AM »
Very deep this art. I generally love realist art such as the Italian art from the Renaissance. But this is challenging and also since you are an Anus member I value this more.

Thanks, that means a lot to me.


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Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: May 29, 2010, 12:38:18 AM »

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Interzone / Re: Qabalah
« on: May 28, 2010, 04:18:03 PM »
From what I know, crowley based his books a lot on hermeticism and orientalism, from qabalah also. But what I really wanted to know from you who has read his books is, was he true when writing them? Are his systems, or whatever name, true and real? What is it all about really.

I'm not lazy, I just don't plan on reading any of his books any time soon.

You want to know what he is about but don't want to read him? Not going to happen.

Any time soon. I am reading other books and when I finish there are already others to buy. I'll certainly read his books in the future. Anyway I read a quote by him that whoever wants to read his books or study occultism must first dominate the sciencies, history, and a buch of other stuff.

From what I know, if not an expert, he had a lot of knowledge on these subjects (orinental stuff, mysticism) . I'm even more confused: If his systems aren't real, then what the hell they are. That's my doubt with most occult stuff. Well, but thanks anyway. I will read the volumes you mentioned some day.

The Predator: What have you gained fom the works of Aleister Crowley? What do you have to say about it? I have en ebook by Resgardie in wich he gives some techniques like imagining colored energy on the body and other mentalizations and meditations for healing and improvement. Cool stuff

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Interzone / Re: Elephant
« on: May 28, 2010, 03:46:40 AM »
Maybe the screenwriter was trying to say that they were such losers, that they couldn't get girls and knowing that the school shooting would end in suicide, wanted to taste some sexual experience

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Interzone / Re: Are we really wrecking the planet?
« on: May 28, 2010, 02:21:35 AM »
I sometimes wonder if Mars or Venus at some time had sentient beings similar to us(I mean in capability to manipulate their environment) that wrecked their planets and died/left to wreck another.  I could see the Earth entering a feedback loop resulting from massive devegetation and output of carbon dioxide and other compounds that could create either situation.  My knowledge of chemistry and physics isn't developed enough to do more than vague speculation, however. 

It seems quite impossible to me that human activity could destroy all life (including micro-life, not just what we consider "life"). Life on Earth has faced mass extinctions and climate change before, and it will likely continue to until the sun swallows it.

 The temperatures of both Mars and Venus make complex life impossible.


It's highly unlikely, but not impossible.  I imagine it would take sustained i.e. centuries of exploitation on a multitude higher scale than what we see today, but humans not only have a gigantic population with which to exploit they also have ingenuity for exploiting resources dynamically without being burdened by much thought as to long-term consequences.  Irreversibly altering the planet's ecosystem doesn't seem entirely beyond reach as long humanity doesn't extinguish itself first.  And I didn't mean to imply that all life would be gone.  Micro-organisms may very well flourish within a Mars-like Earth by way of the planets internal heat.

The temperature of Mars and Venus may not support our form of life, but it seems absurd, in all the complexities of matter, that no variants exist.

Yeah I believe that too. Lovecraft says it is extremely ingenuous to believe life on other plantes would resemble ours.

Maybe life on all other planets needs a bunch of empty planets on the solar system and only one planet with life.

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Interzone / Re: Uncertainty regarding the internet
« on: May 28, 2010, 02:18:48 AM »
I ALWAYS knew that the internet gives ADD and it wrecked my brain along with TV and video games. Time to try to grow up

(this is in response to the cientific study posted)

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Interzone / Re: Qabalah
« on: May 27, 2010, 11:15:13 PM »
Qabalah is ancient Hebrew mysticism whereas Crowley, Carroll et al. are industrial age Western decadence. Which one is less "stinky", as requested by he who wished to read books? Beats me.

From what I know, crowley based his books a lot on hermeticism and orientalism, from qabalah also. But what I really wanted to know from you who has read his books is, was he true when writing them? Are his systems, or whatever name, true and real? What is it all about really.

I'm not lazy, I just don't plan on reading any of his books any time soon.

But I have read a lot of positive things about him by authors I enjoy.

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Interzone / Re: Qabalah
« on: May 27, 2010, 09:09:47 PM »
Internet Sacred Text Archive is here to help you. Additionally, Dion Fortune's The Mystical Qabalah is a classic treatise from the viewpoint of Western occultism.

I don't like reading a lot on the computer. Any book recommendations? I'll probably head to the library and just check out whatever, but a little guidance would help.

Those are all actual books that have been in print for a century or so! I just happened to link the online versions because such exist; amusingly, the only general guidance from me would have been to avoid "practical Qabalah", magick etc. (see previous post) but if Western occultism is your thing, then The Predator's recommendations are perfectly in line.

Since you seem to have read that book you said, with like 8 volumes, about magic or something (thanks for bringing it up), I have to ask: What were your conclusions on western occultism, magic and aleister crowley, and why did you adivse them to be avoided?

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Interzone / Re: The existence of spirits and other things
« on: May 27, 2010, 07:56:25 PM »
Quote from: mr marcus
I believe 100% ... that a lot of "spiritual" stuff really happens, it just may not be due to the causes that mystics speak.

But even if there is only neuron activity, I will never deny mysticism because it can be useful and it can be explained by the brain alone.
You're right on the money with this line of thought.  When people refer to things like mystical / spiritual / paranormal etc. experiences, they are discussing real phenomena.  They're just not what most people think they are.  There are rational / logical /scientific explanations for all these phenomena, and as I've said before, any of them can be experienced with greater orders of magnitude using mind altering substances.

Except for things like moving objects with the mind, materialization of objects and other things (since you mentioned the paranormal. Because I know a priest who runs a institue for studying such phenomena, and he really believes it exists. But he is also a skeptical.)

I wouldn't know about telepathy but I read LSD can induce it.

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