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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 05, 2010, 03:03:24 AM »
I guess it's dumber to believe people who pratice and defend a taboo behavior, like drugs, must consider it flawless and are hiding their addictions and not accepting that it can be bad.

I'm all for people getting satisfaction from working in rewarding things, but one thing isn't exactly another. When you use drugs you get results wich are more or less alike a good workout, or something. But it's also entirely different, and a unique experience. So people will seek it, no matter what. Conclusions about the possible negative effects of the drug must be observed in the user, not presumed just for the fact of drug use.

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:49:53 AM »
Well, some christians must truly be enlightened, being, they are better, more satisfied, calm people because of something they think is Jesus, but it could be nothing but a confidence, the positive powers of faith having its beneficial effects on their "souls".

Transxics defined really well the matter of smoking/not smoking.

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:33:34 AM »
No. As I did not imply that.

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:25:33 AM »
As I previously stated, what learning could you get from smoking pot that you couldn't get while sober or reading a book? Sounds like a load of shit.

"I managed to drive home without an accident while drunk yesterday, drinking must enhance driving!"

You obviously haven't smoked pot.

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 05, 2010, 01:59:36 AM »
sometimes it has those side effects, but it also brings learning.

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Somehow I think in the USA some presidents were all influenced by drugs. George W Bush, as I read on the internet, has been a user of cocaine, and has experimented with other drugs, and also barack obama. Bill clinton said he didn't inhale, but who can know for sure? Well, but it's said the presidents never control anything, and other people really lead. I don't know if this is just a theory, but it seems right to me.

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Although legalization activists and many marijuana users believe smoking pot has no negative effects, scientific research indicates that marijuana use can cause many different health problems.

This is a false claim used to create a image of error about the legalization actvists. There is no proof that all of them believe and preach that marijuana has no negative effects, in fact I think most of them acknowledge that.

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 04, 2010, 07:00:43 PM »
It's true about the stoner culture (but I wouldn't call it all stupid). Some people just like to smoke it up everyday. Regardless of the bad uses it can have, I think we should treat it the same way we treat alcohol: A drug that can be fun, sociable, and good, if used in a good manner, and that manner is different for all of us, so the user must find his own path. The difference is, cannabis is vastly superior to alcohol, because it brings learning.  Look at this great site:

www.marijuana-uses.com

The best site on cannabis, for me. It has a lot of intelligent articles, by respected individuals, including that famous Mr. X one (Carl Sagan).

For me, the ideal use would be only on weekends.

Sometimes people know they're addicted, but they choose to continue. One cypress hill song says "I'm hooked on chronic"

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Interzone / Re: Smoking pot makes you depressed for life
« on: March 04, 2010, 03:36:57 PM »
I don't think that because it's habit forming (addictive), it should be ignored. It's good, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has never used it, but for the curious who have used it, they don't regret it, even with bad consequences like addiction. Some stop completely after a while, I think the majority continues to use and others do it on rare ocasions. But I don't think people who smoke it everyday are "structuinrg their lives" around it. There are people who wake up, smoke tobacco cigarette, smoke it at afternoon, and it night, everyday, and people think it's fine, but not so with the cannabis.

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Interzone / Re: Modernity is not universally sustainable
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:54:24 PM »
Hey, great news this John Gray. I hope this book sells.

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Metal / Re: Burzum - Belus
« on: March 02, 2010, 03:06:25 AM »
Someone said on this topic burzum's ambient work was bad. Do you really think so? I think daudi baldrs is good.

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Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: March 02, 2010, 02:45:42 AM »
Yamatu's album shurpu asaru is good

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Interzone / Re: Scotch Whisky
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:29:29 AM »
I think I prefer the taste of whisk than beer.

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Interzone / Re: Pentti Linkola voted 18th "greatest Finn of all time"
« on: March 01, 2010, 07:42:57 PM »
If a man tortures another man with a hammer then kills him for no reason, a group of other men will most certainly agree he did not deserve that. Then they probably would agree the man that tortured the other deserves to be killed. I don't think any universal judgment was used, just the common sense of those men, their feelings, and some logic (is it good/ok to kill another man for no reason?)That's how it works for me

You're claiming popularity determines what's right, which per Linkola and the rest of the sane people, is an error.

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(is it good/ok to kill another man for no reason?)

That's not what I wanted to say. Well, I did wanted to appeal to common sense a bit, but the most intelligent people would agree on this hypotetical matter that I presented.

How is good/ok determined? There is never "no reason" by the way.

Well, for no reason I mean for pure psycopathy, fun, or to sell snuff tapes (like those fucking russian bastards that tortured a man with a hammer and other things for a long times then killed him, to sell the video). The OK/Not OK power is in our hands, so it must be determined by ourselves (humans). So, answer a question: Why push a hypotetical button, if such a button existed, to eliminate millions of people, among wich may exist a lot of valuable people, if you can sterelize the people? Why choose the most stupid and violent way? (in my view, it is stupidity to kil like this.  It has always been considered wrong, and no I'm not appealing to popularity and I know many things considered wrong were unecessairly so, but even on hammurabi's code it's like this)

Summarizing, what I'm trying to say is, discovering that morality is relative, and  that most people exagerrate in the morals, does not mean that you have to feel that genocide is a trivial thing,

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Metal / Re: Finding new classical music
« on: March 01, 2010, 08:18:19 AM »
Heitor Villa-lobos

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Interzone / Re: Scotch Whisky
« on: March 01, 2010, 08:13:42 AM »
I don't really appreciate the drink as much as the feeling of drunkness.

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off topic: I used to criticize americans for their excessive use of the words "really" and "just". (like, "Just stop it!", and saying really in every sentence). But now I'm doing it too.

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Interzone / Re: Pentti Linkola voted 18th "greatest Finn of all time"
« on: March 01, 2010, 08:09:05 AM »
Not deserve it? Does anyone deserve anything? Is there a universal arbiter who has an objective view of everything, and decides what is and isn't deserved? Or is there just, the void - and, if so, by continuing the logic: nobody doesn't not-deserve anything, just as much as nobody deserves anything.

If a man tortures another man with a hammer then kills him for no reason, a group of other men will most certainly agree he did not deserve that. Then they probably would agree the man that tortured the other deserves to be killed. I don't think any universal judgment was used, just the common sense of those men, their feelings, and some logic (is it good/ok to kill another man for no reason?)That's how it works for me

I think we can come to an agreement, if we bear with each other on this question

Everything else aside, it looks like you get distracted by Linkola's spicing up his writings. You probably get the big picture and acknowledge the man is right; why the need for splitting hairs over hypothetical scenarios?

Well, I agree with the man on some things, just wished to point the part that seems unacceptable to me. I mean, just like someone can say "I admire the islamic life, but not the stoning to death of girls who have sex or the killing of homosexuals"

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