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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« on: June 12, 2014, 04:19:44 PM »
Black metal and related genres aren't a good place for quibbles about instrumentation and production.

The content on the album is good; thinner perhaps than his first album, but still solid.

In a genre-spectrum awash in contentless imitators and vapid entryists, Burzum isn't the problem.

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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:11:58 PM »
I prefer Tomhet on the original album.  It worked better as an outro to something great.

I agree. This is the weak spot for me, but it's not really weak to a new listener. I think Varg may have (unfortunately) listened to a critique of his original instrumentation from the peanut gallery. However, I liked the simplicity and 1980s innocence of the original, as well as its role as he stated it in the album: surging through all this chaotic metal, ending up in silence and death.

If anything newer Burzum ambient should be compared to some of his more atmospheric pieces from the second album, which sought to create a mood and then change it from within via texture. That's not entirely unlike what a lot of death metal did, except that now it exists through harmony and melody.

Some tracks, like the "ritual ambient" Heil Odhinn/Heil Freya originally struck me as really annoying. I recall these having been around for some time in concept, giving the feel of this album being odds 'n' ends. However, they work quite well in breaking up what otherwise would be an omnipresent sameness to the album.

The more I listen to it, the more it improves. The spirit and sensation is there. It has its flaws, but flaws don't dethrone greatness, merely give it some personality.

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Metal / Re: The band Pink Frothy AIDS was ripping off
« on: June 08, 2014, 03:27:02 PM »
Yep, but as you can see this was a discussion in the context of metal (and Black Sabbath is mentioned).

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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« on: June 08, 2014, 02:53:30 PM »
For discussion of ideology, please take it to the new forum. It replaces Interzone and all other non-music conversation here.



Regarding the new album: my impressions of it have improved since earlier listening. It enabled Varg to do what he was chafing at with Filosofem, which is to stop guitars from so dominating sonic space that differentiated voices are impossible.

It is more ambient, with less of a clear beginning and ending, but that's by design. This is music to drop out of this world into and the change occurs within the mood, not through change in mood overall. Some songs are transition pieces like some of the Ildjarn stuff. I like the original "Tomhet" better though.

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Metal / The band Opeth was ripping off
« on: June 07, 2014, 07:35:08 PM »
http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,18441.msg90305.html#new

In the 90s it became clear that soft/hard was a winning formula. Bands like Nirvana later capitalized on how to write a gentle acoustic verse and then have a wailing chorus. But before that, metal bands experimented with this, possibly starting with Venom's "Cold Northern Breeze" but maybe dating back to some of the Black Sabbath experiments.

Cemetary took this into death metal, mixing a ghostly fast vibrato (I still don't know how they did this technique) with lighter distortion than most, creating a sound like veils draped over the howl of wind through a cave. Then, they added in acoustic guitar used strategically at points of quiet emotion, then built up to the more raging death metal riffs. Far subtler than the soft-verse/hard-chorus that Nirvana, nu-metal, etc. would use, this technique caught the attention of many for its subtlety and emotion.

Then Opeth cloned it in a simplistic form, following the nu-metal option.

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Metal / Canadian shooter quotes Megadeth
« on: June 06, 2014, 01:45:06 PM »
In what appears to be his final post, the page's author used the words of a song by the metal group Megadeth.

You say you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think maybe it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come.
I believe my kingdom will come.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/world/canada-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Metal / How Slayer re-invented the postmodern world
« on: June 06, 2014, 01:39:34 PM »
HOW SLAYER RE-INVENTED THE POSTMODERN WORLD

Jeff Hanneman left this world for demon realms on May 2, 2013 but the band he created along with Kerry King, Tom Araya and Dave Lombardo lives on. In fact, in the spirit of Francis Fukuyama's The End of History and the Last Man, which posited that modern consumer society was the last stage of human history, the International Day of Slayer presents an understanding of how Slayer re-invented the postmodern world.

In 1983, people thought life was pretty much back to normal. Those 1960s, and the hedonistic 1970s, those were probably just hiccups. Science has conquered all the great fears. We have explored every ocean, climbed every mountain, even seen into space. Billions of pages of documents and books have been written. Surely we know everything. This is humanity at its peak; things can only go up from here. Right? But it seemed as if we were covering something up.

Like a demonic eye, Slayer saw past it all. A managed society created by hordes of MBAs. The positive propaganda on the television. Our assurance that we had fought moral wars and put ourselves on top through an almost religious devotion to freedom. Everything that could fixed, had been fixed, by the use of power from outside. Now in a society of love and trust we were finally together and would beat those nasty Russians and spread our Utopian vision. But the eye of Slayer stared into our soul.

Our souls exuded the faintest whiff of... decay. Fear. Moral cowardice. Emptiness. Slayer caught the trail and peered deep within. Underneath our glossy brochures, good intentions, and technology, the darkest demons of humanity roused themselves. The victims are asleep, thus now is the time to strike. Our oblivion -- out of sight, out of mind -- allowed us to hide the dark abyss within. When you peered in deeply enough into the hollows, you saw the lack of purpose and fundamental deception that we tried desperately to hide.

Fukuyama was wrong. Consumer society is not the last age of humanity. Rather, it is the last age of the old era. The darkness has won, and creeps forth to urge us to destroy. Instead of a world where every question is solved, we face a world of ambiguity. Despite having banished religion, it seems as if the old tales of things that go bump in the night might have truth to them. We are the evil that lurks in the night and our souls turn dark when exposed to the light. Slayer showed us our illusions and pierced them.

31 years after the first notes of Slayer burned themselves into a studio tape and immortal legend among Hessians everywhere, the dark vision of Slayer rises again like a phoenix. We live in times of great change and upheaval. While no one else was able to give us a guide, Slayer did, and continues to guide us into the next era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyd_0lTUhCg

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Metal / Re: A deep resonance
« on: June 06, 2014, 01:38:22 PM »
Closest I can come is to this, but images won't load for me:

http://www.discogs.com/Bill-Laswell-Axiom-Ambient-Lost-In-The-Translation/release/27694

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Metal / National Day of Slayer 2014
« on: June 06, 2014, 01:29:10 PM »
...who's celebrating? I'm "working from home" so that I can listen to the material at volume above miniscule.

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Metal / Shane Bugbee interviews Behemoth's Nergal
« on: June 05, 2014, 03:51:20 PM »
For Immediate Release 6-5-14


Behemoth founder Nergal talks the meaning of Art and his hope that Christianity lives on with Underground filmmaker and author Shane Bugbee.


Recently, one of Black Metal's most outspoken performers sat with underground journalist, filmmaker, author and iconoclast Shane Bugbee for candid interviews about art, censorship and Satanism.


Nergal (Adam Darski) of Behemoth, who has been on trial for blasphemy in Poland, is an Energy Drink spokesman, and recently became a cancer survivor.  He spoke with Shane in May while touring the USA. Due to Shane's own career of controversy, spanning a quarter century, publishing obscene books, working with Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey, bringing the first black metal bands to the U.S., among other feats of transgression, Shane Bugbee was able to get the answers others never can.


The interviews can be viewed in several short videos, seen in pictures and heard via mp3 on a couple of websites Bugbee runs, Creative Class Trumps Ruling Class (http://creativeclasstrumpsrulingclass.com/), and his personal website, The Occult Stylings of Shane Bugbee (http://www.shanebugbee.com).


Video & Audio Links:

• nergal defines and defies defining art… http://creativeclasstrumpsrulingclass.com/?p=1110

• the hope that christianity never dies… nergal of extreme metal band behemoth talks the religion of doubt: http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=2367

• Full audio interview and photos: http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=2304


For more information on the work of Shane Bugbee, also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Bugbeehttps://twitter.com/shanebugbeehttp://www.usaodd.com/

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Metal / Danziggy
« on: May 30, 2014, 10:43:00 PM »

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Metal / Re: Is it ok to sell CDs in this forum?
« on: May 28, 2014, 03:06:41 PM »
I don't think we have official rules

Basically. A rubric:

1. Nothing illegal.

2. Use best judgment always.

So when selling CDs, use best judgment. Meaning there's many different ways to sell CDs.

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Metal / Re: Glorious Times: Old-School DM Book in the Works
« on: May 28, 2014, 02:43:14 PM »

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Metal / Re: Glorious Times: Old-School DM Book in the Works
« on: May 28, 2014, 02:42:51 PM »

The 2010 book Glorious Times: Pictorial Of The Death Metal Scene (1984-91) by Alan Moses and Brian Pattison has been out of print for a few years.
http://pioneeringglorioustimes.blogspot.com/

ISMMS would like to secure a copy to add to the Heavy Metal & Hardcore Punk Archives so scholars today and in the future have access to it.  Please contact me if you know of a copy that is for sale or someone who might be willing to donate it to our non-profit scholarly society.

Thanks,
Brian Hickam
[email protected]


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