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Metal / Relation between heavy metal and classical
« on: December 30, 2005, 02:41:03 AM »
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I will go into detail about how two great musical styles-heavy metal and classical music (classical is refferring to music by Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, and others) are much more closely related than meets the eye.

Both have strong passionate feelings within them when being played or listened to. These feelings include intensity, power, and musical complexity. When rockin out to heavy metal, one feels this glorifying passion, as if he wants everyone to feel his music with him. It is the same when playing or conducting a fast classical piece of music. It's like everything fits together in the song perfectly like pieces of a puzzle. These genres of music are so perfectly arranged. Every guitar solo and drum hit are placed accurately into the song so one can truly feel the intensity of it. It is the same in classical music. I myself have played many classical pieces on piano. I'm mostly reffering to the fast pieces when I say that it has the same feel as metal. The musical ideas in the song seem to build exactly when necessary, and they seem to flow together with all aspects of the chart. The power you feel when you're intensly playing a fast piece on piano is incredible. In heavy metal, the guitar solo's 16th note runs are strikingly similar in form to the lead runs in a classical piece. Take Bach's Concerto in A Minor for example. This piece is about 140 beats per minute, with a hell of a lot of notes. It's as if each note is exactly where it belongs, and not only that, the musical ideas are EXTREMELY clear in this song and I feel that this is very true for many heavy metal songs. The ideas in songs by bands such as Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica, and Deep Purple, are fuckin loud and clear, and at the same time very musically talented. Both Classical music and Heavy Metal make you want to move fast to the pulse, while singing along or improvising lead riffs or runs that are the opitomy of pure intensity. Getting into the feel of Heavy Metal and Classical pieces is telling the whole world, "I'm blasting your mother fuckin head off with my music!" You know when metal comes around, its ass kicking time. Metal is for the warriors, and again, has part of its origin in classical music. One of the main ideas that links metal to classical is that both genres include songs that are built as one, well standing musical idea from start to finish, and on the inside of the song you have aspects of the musical world in every form imaginable: crescendos, accents, syncopation, melodies with counter melodies, scales, huge dynamic changes, the building of one idea into a huge one, the well blended transitions from one idea to the next, and more. If you have ever seen a conductor from the 1700's conduct, take Bach for example, you can see that he's working intensly, putting his heart and passion into his music with FURY, and putting his body and mind through a time of "ecstatic musical experience". I mean God look at how fast he moves his hands to conduct, and look at how he gets really into it and sweats and everything. Beside from both styles having the same feel to them, it's also true that when keyboards are used in heavy metal, talent is expressed perfectly well with exciting kick ass material that when you listen to it you think "God that is just fuckin incredible. I with that were me rockin out like a maniac on that keyboard." And this is why Heavy Metal has some of its origins in Classical Music. Now lets hear others opinions on this; I am eager to hear what other DIEHARD METALHEADS like myself have to say in repliance.


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Metal / Re: The Underground (No Longer Exists)
« on: December 29, 2005, 02:20:57 AM »
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yeah, that should be about as easy as disarming america.


Disarming America? THEY'LL NEVER TAKE MY GUN.

I think it's already happening. And, in any situation, there's about 2% of the population that actually does the important things that keep the situation afloat. If they see it as I have expressed above, well, things will change rapidly!

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Metal / Re: Heritage of Metal
« on: December 29, 2005, 02:12:24 AM »
Maybe so, but Slayer's most important contributions were probably on Hell Awaits. Bathory took an album to get to full speed as well, but they were roughly contemporaneous. More credit should be given to Discharge, perhaps, although a lot of that technique was borrowed from classical by prog-rockers...

Basically, Beethoven did it all, and Bruckner did it all again, and then there's metal, which just sounds cool but we take it further than that because one must always grow to greater heights, or one is doomed to recess into lower.

<3 ANAL

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Metal / Re: Sepultura?
« on: December 28, 2005, 03:39:18 AM »
Sodom, Bathory and Hellhammer were more death metal in many ways than Possessed. All of these steps were not large; no one entity "invented" death metal.


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Metal / Re: Art as communication
« on: December 28, 2005, 02:08:23 AM »
Aestheticism is making something "unique" that does not correspond to content. Novelty, decoration, product-oriented thinking.


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Metal / Re: Sepultura?
« on: December 28, 2005, 02:06:22 AM »
Sepultura, Massacra and Necrovore are oft-forgotten contributors to the genre.

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Metal / Re: Mainstream black metal doesn't impress me.
« on: December 27, 2005, 11:03:40 PM »
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How petty... Well, that makes you a African-American.


I am a Congoid. And 1/3 Jew.

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Metal / Re: Mainstream black metal doesn't impress me.
« on: December 27, 2005, 11:00:34 PM »
Trolls succeed if they're answered. If you think he's a troll... REPLY TO ANOTHER THREAD! (You can trust me on this; I'm a troll, from hell)

The topic is provocative, but kind of bores me. There's no difference between mainstream and underground, and I pick by quality, and am fond of older Emperor and Averse Sefira.

Your mileage may vary - a friend who is HIV+ says that only Judas Iscariot sounds good to him these days.


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Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 27, 2005, 02:26:01 AM »
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If it wasn't for us whites, those african-americans wouldn't have even had guitars or durms, just bongos and coconuts.


Historically, not true. Stringed instruments and woodwinds of a fashion also existed.


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Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 27, 2005, 02:25:20 AM »
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Then why do people say that blues came from the black slaves?


Pity.

And marketing.

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Metal / Re: Art as communication
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:31:50 AM »
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even so its not metal do you reckon jimi hendrix and kurt cobain were like that


I think they're both morons.

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Metal / Re: Graveland's Fire Chariot of Destruction
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:31:00 AM »
I don't know him personally.

In the past, he has seemed to have a sense of humor.

Most people in faux Nationalism (like "White Nationalism" or "Republicanism") take themselves too seriously.

If that disease has infected him, I'm sorry to hear it. But I can imagine people get intolerant just dealing with heap-of-shit sites like MySpace (mainly sucks because the scripts don't work most of the time!).


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Metal / Re: pc audio systems 2.1/ 5.1/ 7.1
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:29:31 AM »
Any 5.1 system will be decent in sound, but a lot depends on room as well. Make sure your audio player has an equalizer!


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Metal / Re: Growing out of Metal?
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:28:15 AM »
I see most people grow out of metal because the amateurish nature and simplicity of youth culture is no longer relevant. They no longer have 10-12 hours a week in which music is important.

And really, isn't youth culture embarrassing? All these people pandering to your tastes so they can make money. A whole lot of hype around music, so much that life in a larger sense is forgotten. As with television.

The best metal, one never grows out of... but it's fewer albums rather than more. Maybe 15 total.

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Metal / Re: Writing Music
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:24:43 AM »
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You may be right, but then again, the more you cover, the easier it is to imitate the style, whereas avoiding covers may lead to finding out your own style of playing. That's what happened to me, at least. I've never covered a song, and I've only practiced a couple of riffs made by other people. A friend of mine taught me how to tune the guitar, and that's all.


Inspiring. Here's what I got from it:

1. What matters most is not method, but persistence.
2. Music is a language and you can learn it your own way, as long as you learn some completeness of its usage.


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