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Metal / Re: Art and Product
« on: November 25, 2005, 05:20:02 PM »
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Do any of you make the effort to distinguish the line?


Yes:

Music that is made to convey the ideas of the author in an artistic context is art, even though it may be commissioned and even have its topic decided elsewhere.

Music that is made exclusively to pander to what the crowd wants to think it thinks, or to convey a commercial message, or to make the ideas of the author into propaganda is a sell-out.

It is all about intention.


2207
Metal / Re: Overrated.
« on: November 25, 2005, 05:18:05 PM »
For me, art should be something truly excellent or it should perish. There's enough room for mediocre in the landfill, and if we praise mediocrity, we end up with thousands of times more mediocre in the landfill than we need to put there.

Think of it this way: if an audience buying 100,000 CDs a year, and then throwing them out, could do with 1,000 CDs a year (which will last longer before being thrown out) of higher quality, than why should we not enforce this policy?

Do we care that people "think" they need more things, when they really need better quality things?


2208
Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: November 25, 2005, 05:14:50 PM »
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Not to say these bands are great, profound, or original, but worthy of a listen? Probably.


If I want mediocrity, I'll simply listen to another genre. Why would you tolerate something that is mediocre AND black metal when there is higher quality elsewhere? Your answer makes no sense.

I don't believe the genre has run its course... I believe the fans have lost direction. There are a few still vital acts, but they're lost in the flood of those bands you consider "worthy of a listen? Probably", the ego mania of newer fans, the drama of every single fan having a band/label/zine/website, etc.

The genre needs to die and be reborn. Anything else is a fucking copout.

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Metal / Re: Averse Sefira - Plagabraha from new album
« on: November 23, 2005, 06:07:52 PM »
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I'm really hoping that I wasn't the only person who ventured out to support this. Montreal certainly knows how to put on a show, even if the turnout wasn't huge.


Wish I'd been there. Sounds like a great show, with a traditionally involved audience.


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Metal / Favorite metal fanpage
« on: November 23, 2005, 05:00:48 PM »
http://web.telia.com/~u85305577/music/

It's hard to describe this: offhanded might be a good term. Still, a lot here, and a link to DLA since... jesus fjuck? Probably pre-1996. <3 d90-two

http://web.telia.com/~u85305577/music/


2211
Metal / Gnostic - former ATHEIST drummer
« on: November 23, 2005, 04:34:53 PM »
Hello. My name is Todd and I play in a band called
Gnostic. Our drummer, Steve Flynn (from the Tampa
Death metal band ATHEIST) started the band and we have
made our first demo. I would like very much to send
you a copy for you to review. Please let me know if
you are interested. If you would like, you can also
download
high quality MP3 files of the songs at

http://www.mindctrl.com/gnostic/

2212
Metal / For the gay metalhead...
« on: November 11, 2005, 03:37:27 AM »

2213
Metal / Re: SUFFOCATION * CRYPTOPSY * VADER in NYC 11/07/0
« on: November 11, 2005, 03:36:49 AM »
Where is Immolation? NYC... Immolation. The two are like AIDS and gay orgies in my mind: inseparable.


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Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: November 07, 2005, 11:39:28 PM »
I think it's trivial to produce a "good" album. In fact, "good," like earning a shitload of money, is a relatively easy, linear process.

"Great" is another story.


2215
Metal / exponentiation ezine issue 2 out now
« on: November 07, 2005, 01:08:46 AM »
exponentiation zine [issue: 2.0]

OUT NOW

For a belief higher than material comfort, one must turn both
to the ancients and to the future. A traditionalist ezine,
exponentiation [2.0] explores idealism, nihilism and realism
in the arts, philosophy and culture. Visit now and read our
free online version of the latest issue, released November 5,
2005.

NEWS
al-Qaeda and Marijuana
CEOs and Rape

ART
Karjalan Sissit, VNV Nation, My Bloody Valentine
Tom Wolfe, John Le Carre

FOOD
Gnocchi, Garlic Chicken, Arugula

FEATURES
German Impressionistic Cinema
Averse Sefira
Globalization

LITERATURE
John Frostwood, Skeeze Whitlow, Steve Cynical

issue [2.0]:
OUT NOW

http://www.anus.com/zine/


2216
Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 30, 2005, 12:30:29 PM »
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I read this post and I am saddened that you have crated a double edge sword out of Black Metal. It seems that you are claiming that if a new black metal band does not sound like the progenitors of this genre, the music is uninspired and/or lacks the attitude but if they do then they are wana-be bands but keep in mind all things evolve.


Strawman.


2217
Metal / Pushead (Prong, Metallica, Septic Death)
« on: October 30, 2005, 12:21:49 PM »

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Metal / Re: Art as communication
« on: October 23, 2005, 01:42:57 AM »
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even so its not metal do you reckon jimi hendrix and kurt cobain were like that


No, I think they were aestheticists, not artists.

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Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 23, 2005, 01:41:18 AM »
The genre has been dead for some years. A.S. are an exception to the rule, but they are the vast minority and have no numerical influence on saving the genre - no one can "save" it. Better to let it fucking die and be reborn if it can be, but if not, why shed tears and produce a mediocre replacement for something that is irreplaceable?

YOU CANNOT GO BACK TO 1990 AND RECREATE THE CONDITIONS OF BLACK METAL. YOU CANNOT FIND PEOPLE OF THAT QUALITY AGAIN, AND YOU CANNOT FIND THAT CLARITY OF THOUGHT, BY SIMPLY LOOKING OVER THE SAME PATH THAT  WAS FORGED 15 YEARS AGO. INSTEAD, LOOK TOWARD HEROISM AND YOU WILL FIND A NEW PATH.

If you do not heed these words, you will fail, and people like me will laugh at you for being fucking stupid.

2220
Metal / Re: Electric Wizard
« on: October 23, 2005, 01:38:59 AM »
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They seem to reaching for transcendence in a pure extreme of self destruction and nihilism, which normally doesn't at all rattle my bones.


You mean like G.G. Allin did? Like Iggy Pop did? Like Jim Morrison did?

The attitude they espouse is the norm in popular/rock music. Black metal was the rarity in that it transcended that outlook and became creative again.

Fuck rock music. It's for morons or the misinformed. Clearly if either category, you're the latter, but still: why does aesthetic become more important than content when discuss popular music? Stick to the best, leave off the rest -- it's more landfill and if you invite it into your brain, ...


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