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Metal / Re: Mainstream black metal doesn't impress me.
« on: December 27, 2005, 11:00:34 PM »
Trolls succeed if they're answered. If you think he's a troll... REPLY TO ANOTHER THREAD! (You can trust me on this; I'm a troll, from hell)

The topic is provocative, but kind of bores me. There's no difference between mainstream and underground, and I pick by quality, and am fond of older Emperor and Averse Sefira.

Your mileage may vary - a friend who is HIV+ says that only Judas Iscariot sounds good to him these days.

Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 27, 2005, 02:26:01 AM »
If it wasn't for us whites, those african-americans wouldn't have even had guitars or durms, just bongos and coconuts.

Historically, not true. Stringed instruments and woodwinds of a fashion also existed.

Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 27, 2005, 02:25:20 AM »
Then why do people say that blues came from the black slaves?


And marketing.

Metal / Re: Art as communication
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:31:50 AM »
even so its not metal do you reckon jimi hendrix and kurt cobain were like that

I think they're both morons.

Metal / Re: Graveland's Fire Chariot of Destruction
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:31:00 AM »
I don't know him personally.

In the past, he has seemed to have a sense of humor.

Most people in faux Nationalism (like "White Nationalism" or "Republicanism") take themselves too seriously.

If that disease has infected him, I'm sorry to hear it. But I can imagine people get intolerant just dealing with heap-of-shit sites like MySpace (mainly sucks because the scripts don't work most of the time!).

Metal / Re: pc audio systems 2.1/ 5.1/ 7.1
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:29:31 AM »
Any 5.1 system will be decent in sound, but a lot depends on room as well. Make sure your audio player has an equalizer!

Metal / Re: Growing out of Metal?
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:28:15 AM »
I see most people grow out of metal because the amateurish nature and simplicity of youth culture is no longer relevant. They no longer have 10-12 hours a week in which music is important.

And really, isn't youth culture embarrassing? All these people pandering to your tastes so they can make money. A whole lot of hype around music, so much that life in a larger sense is forgotten. As with television.

The best metal, one never grows out of... but it's fewer albums rather than more. Maybe 15 total.

Metal / Re: Writing Music
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:24:43 AM »
You may be right, but then again, the more you cover, the easier it is to imitate the style, whereas avoiding covers may lead to finding out your own style of playing. That's what happened to me, at least. I've never covered a song, and I've only practiced a couple of riffs made by other people. A friend of mine taught me how to tune the guitar, and that's all.

Inspiring. Here's what I got from it:

1. What matters most is not method, but persistence.
2. Music is a language and you can learn it your own way, as long as you learn some completeness of its usage.

Metal / Re: Sick of it.
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:23:26 AM »
This is not a judgement of the aural ability of intelligent metal listeners, but an acnowledgement of a lack of familiarity which will take time to surmount.

I think metal listeners should be forced to make this leap, or drummed out of the genre into punk rock.

Raise standards, always. Never lower.

Metal / Re: Sepultura?
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:22:02 AM »
They work well together, as a complete listening experience.

Metal / Re: Definitive metal albums
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:20:20 AM »
there are so many definitive metal albums.

Not really. You're looking for the best of the genre that is also archetypal:


"1 : the original pattern or model of which all things of the same type are representations or copies : PROTOTYPE; also : a perfect example
2 : IDEA 1a
3 : an inherited idea or mode of thought in the psychology of C. G. Jung that is derived from the experience of the race and is present in the unconscious of the individual"

Metal / Re: Philosopher says heavy metal is fascism
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:17:18 AM »
Anything that demands an answer, or action, will mean that someone cannot do exactly as they "want" to do, thus is fascism. OH NO

Metal / Re: Art and Product
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:15:14 AM »
Do any of you make the effort to distinguish the line? The closest I've come is that once you sell your art, it becomes a product.

Art = designed to communicate experience.

Product = designed to capture, and replicate mechanically, experience (hence, logically, the experience is always simpler).

Propaganda = product designed to reinforce political dogma.


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Metal / Re: Why this forum is different than others
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:13:11 AM »

An evolving document on how best to use internet forums, complete with metal examples that will offend most of you.

Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 26, 2005, 03:12:14 AM »
Rock and pre-blues riffs are actually rather primitive, even in comparison to minimalist black metal acts like Von.

Rock and blues are basically Celtic-Germanic folk music with constant syncopated beats. It's career death to say that, so few are publishing this truth now, but the reason rock is a sham is that it was something else repackaged and made into a product.

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