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Metal / Re: Sick of it.
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:23:26 PM »
This is not a judgement of the aural ability of intelligent metal listeners, but an acnowledgement of a lack of familiarity which will take time to surmount.

I think metal listeners should be forced to make this leap, or drummed out of the genre into punk rock.

Raise standards, always. Never lower.

Metal / Re: Sepultura?
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:22:02 PM »
They work well together, as a complete listening experience.

Metal / Re: Definitive metal albums
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:20:20 PM »
there are so many definitive metal albums.

Not really. You're looking for the best of the genre that is also archetypal:


"1 : the original pattern or model of which all things of the same type are representations or copies : PROTOTYPE; also : a perfect example
2 : IDEA 1a
3 : an inherited idea or mode of thought in the psychology of C. G. Jung that is derived from the experience of the race and is present in the unconscious of the individual"

Metal / Re: Philosopher says heavy metal is fascism
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:17:18 PM »
Anything that demands an answer, or action, will mean that someone cannot do exactly as they "want" to do, thus is fascism. OH NO

Metal / Re: Art and Product
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:15:14 PM »
Do any of you make the effort to distinguish the line? The closest I've come is that once you sell your art, it becomes a product.

Art = designed to communicate experience.

Product = designed to capture, and replicate mechanically, experience (hence, logically, the experience is always simpler).

Propaganda = product designed to reinforce political dogma.


Cradle of Filth
Black Witchery
Cannibal Corpse

Napalm Death
Blue Eyed Devils

Metal / Re: Why this forum is different than others
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:13:11 PM »

An evolving document on how best to use internet forums, complete with metal examples that will offend most of you.

Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:12:14 PM »
Rock and pre-blues riffs are actually rather primitive, even in comparison to minimalist black metal acts like Von.

Rock and blues are basically Celtic-Germanic folk music with constant syncopated beats. It's career death to say that, so few are publishing this truth now, but the reason rock is a sham is that it was something else repackaged and made into a product.

Metal / Re: Christian Black Metal?
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:11:07 PM »
Black Sabbath were proto-metal.

Metal, as it has evolved, is not accepting of exoteric Christian dogma. It would accept a holistic moral version of Christianity, but that would be unrecognizable by most as distinct from "Pagan" (and Hindu) beliefs.

Only Krishna is real.

Metal / Re: Ultra-USBM
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:09:55 PM »
did you google search for a butt plug to complete your joke or did you stumble upon it by accident?

Googling for "Metallica+Anal" to find the piece I wrote a long time ago that became this exhibit:


Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:08:51 PM »
Aesthetics change, but only true aesthetics last forever.

Yes, content is what matters. Simplicity and messiness aside (including musical ineptitude), black metal is essentially European Romanticist movement. That as a concept determines a range of content topics, and a range of aesthetics, but ultimately, it is the philosophy behind the music and its topics that makes it what it is.

And that is eternal... insofar as anything is.

Metal / Re: legion, is there any other album like it?
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:05:29 PM »
Have either of you heard the latest Luciferion album (The Apostate)? If so, what do you think?

I did not think it was good as the first, which mostly is of note for doing a melodic metal take on Deicide.

Metal / Re: Fender Stratocasters are dogshit guitars
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:04:20 PM »
i'd rather use a les paul for a warm clean sound.

Agreed. Sometimes, Les Pauls make power chords seem less harmonically thin - resonance?

I like B.C. Rich guitars OK; I like almost everything from Gibson including the SG; I like most of what Ibanez puts out and most Jackson guitars. I haven't yet played a Fender I didn't think was cheesy, as a Chevrolet is to a Mercedes.

But for shitty, cheesy genres like the blues, they probably have the most "character"!

Metal / Re: Morpheus Descends
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:02:47 PM »
"Ritual of Infinity" needs a quality remaster and possibly addition of selected tracks from the EPs. I don't know if their style is relevant now, and I don't trust them to re-invent themselves.

Metal / Re: Nu-Death Metal
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:01:48 PM »
Nu-Death =

Variant A: melodic heavy metal + death/black vocals.

Variant B: metalcore with emo elements, hybridized with percussive death metal.

Both are HIV+ in artistic senses.

Metal / Re: Incantation.
« on: December 25, 2005, 07:00:57 PM »
Their first album and live EP/LP are good; the rest, honestly, is forgettable.

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