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Metal / Re: Black metal = terms contradicting aesthetics?
« on: December 04, 2005, 06:28:55 PM »
Have you ever considered that, if more people understood the true nature of black metal, that it would be easier for like minded people to come together and make good bands?

Not for black metal, but in general, that's why I write.

However, the abilities of people vary, so be careful what you make public, I've found.

Metal / Re: college
« on: December 04, 2005, 06:27:43 PM »
I have no motivations for the future anymore and I see college as a preparation for pushing paper and being a desk monkey.

Get loans, and follow your dreams, not other people's fears. ALL IMHO, YMMV, ETC, HIV+

Metal / Re: legion, is there any other album like it?
« on: December 04, 2005, 06:25:06 PM »
Hits the moron meter, you say? Logo drawn by the social deviant and peculiar Christoph Spazdiel, you say?

I like Spzadjzel's logos, but I don't like moron metal. Link is dysfunctional.

Metal / Re: Capitalism and downloading.
« on: December 04, 2005, 06:14:07 PM »
Why not just download and see for yourself? This may be because of my incredibly bad experiences with zines recommending utter shit, perhaps you would care to share a couple of good ones?

The problem: 10,000 bands to download.

With good reviewers: cut down to 10 or 15.

Most of us aren't so fascinated by this we want to dedicate our lives to it.

Regarding magazines, I don't know of any. They may be out there, but last time I looked, I saw plenty of aesthetics and zero substance.

Metal / RTTP password warning
« on: December 03, 2005, 12:35:31 PM »
From: press@returntothepit.com

well, I really messed something up there....
I am extremely extremely sorry...
there was an error in my code and some e-mail passwords were mailed out to everyone (A through F when I caught it).
I had re-done all the passwords with random passwords.
the link and your new password is at the end of this email.

please, log in and change your password.
I would also change other places that you used that password at.
I am extremely extremely sorry... this was an error that I can't believe happened.
there is nothing else I can say here to express how sorry I am.
rev aaron

Original email:

hello, I just added more stuff to the RttP bands pages. I've been adding a lot more things to this page since this summer. currently, if you are in a band that I have taken pictures of, then you have a Bands page.

if you have missed the posts on Return to the Pit, the posts on myspace, the posts in the RttP forum, etc..., then I will lay it down for you right now.

if you are in a band, log in to RTTP, then go here:
find the band that you are or were in. Click on it. If the band says ''offically approved'', then add your self to that band by clicking ''I'm a member'' and fill out the info. once you add yourself to the band, I will ''approve'' you for that band so that you are now an administrator for your bands page. I just have to verify that you actually are a member of a band.

If the band page says ''awaiting approval'' then e-mail me back and I'll approve it so you can add youself to the band as above. I do this set cause I shoot so many shows that I don't always catch my spelling mistakes. if your band is on there and spelled wrong PLEASE tell me so I can approve the right name.

why do you want to do this?
right now, you can add/updat e band info, links, bios, other members, news, shows, upload logos, and be notified when someone posts a comment about your band. bands that you are a member of also show up on your user profile page on RttP.

I'm also adding things to it all the time and accepting suggestions. Eventually, there will be the ability for a band to upload mp3s to the site too. I've been working on a flash mp3 player than can sit on the band page. At first, this flash play is going to only play the mp3s from bands who have been live in the RTTP studios. Once all the bugs are out, then I will allow for uploaded mp3s to be played.

PLEASE, do this for ALL bands that you were/are in.

Metal / Spear of Longinus update
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:11:40 AM »
Warning - never view a film in the presence of another humanoid.
They interfere with the reception from on high.

War of the Worlds;
Can you survive a jet liner landing on your house?
Tom Cruise can.
Can you survive invasion by a superior species planned millenium ago?
Tom Cruise can.
Can you not wear a hard hat?
Tom cruise can.
Must be them scientological connexions eh!
Excellent special effex but.
Why are humans so impressed by insect type things killing them and peering at them? I've always been waiting for the conditions to change so that those nice little garden skinks can change back into full size killer dragons!

Pact with the Devil;
How come this bloke gets it so easy?
I've been loking for the Devil for years, still no luck.
Hail the Bacchus/Machiavell kult!
We almost overlooked this one because of it's dodgy look, but check it out.

Narco, secret adventures of Gustav Klopp;
A french film about a fellow who falls asleep continually due to a medical condition. A light hearted story that ends up with the characters on a path of self discovery, of sorts.
Seems to be directed at the mid 30's age bracket. Comes with a short cameo by Jean Claude Van Damm rigth at the end, the sage that he is.

White Noise;
What's this, something half decent out of hollywood, AND, starring Michael Keaton?! Dosen't really add up does it?
Nevertheless this film has some merit despite the usuall shortcomings that Americans seem impelled to inflict on their audience.
Usuall thing, contemporery "spooky" beginning with suitable sounds and such. Set the agenda with some sappy emotional manipulation, for those with boiled eggs for brains, then in a clumbsy sort of way we get introduced to E.V.P. Elektronik Voice Phenomenon. Something the rest of us blakened dirty okkult metal magus revolutionarys have known about for years, a pleasing past time for all necrologists to be sure.
The film starts of with some "quotes."
" no body knows whether our personalities pass on to another existence or sphere, but, if we can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be manipulated by our persomality as it survives in the next life, such an instrument ought to record something........", Thomas Edison 1928.
In the film they use TV's, videos and computers.
Our 2nd degree students use each other and evill hisssing guitarz!
Despite the most unexpected shit ending; worth checking out.
Oh yes, when you get to the 2nd degree, you will be able to raise the % quoted at the end most admirably.

Batman Begins;
An improvement on portraying the true ethos of the Vehmic Bat Overlords.
Feudal Master Camazotz himself, hinted that the film hinted, that some of the training methods and practices protrayed in the film were what can be expected by the lower grades of the order!
Hail Vengeance, Hail Retribution.
Train hard.

Von Sol.
Token , grip, sign, word.

- Spear of Longinus <spearoflonginus@yahoo.com>

Metal / Re: Burzum 101
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:10:08 AM »
Who gives a fuck anymore?

I give a fuck.

Very few things are absolute.

Burzum/Vikernes has some good ideas, and some crap ones; I take the good ones.

The end result is truth, not clubhouse, as many post-1995 "Burzum fans" have made it seem.

Metal / Re: Capitalism and downloading.
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:07:45 AM »
IN MY OPINION, it just seems to take the emotion out of enjoying music, like it's turned from entertainment to fashion.

You've got a point. Be selective about what you download; the rules haven't changed much since 1989. Find someone writing or assessing quality stuff and check out what they recommend.

This is why sometimes it's better to have 2 metal magazines than 20, and five good zines instead of the 500,000 shit zines today (and yes, I don't think much of the trendy zines from Scandinavia - beautiful but empty because they praise metal too much, and good metal, not enough).

Metal / Re: Graveland's Fire Chariot of Destruction
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:05:51 AM »
YHBT to all who do not appreciate Rob Darken's sense of humor.

Don't take the boilerplate too seriously (colloquial usage, you'll have to look it up).

Metal / Re: What is "Black" to you?
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:00:34 AM »
Black = without moral judgment. That is the essence of the black arts as opposed to the white arts; black arts are compatible with both civilization and nature, while white arts are limited to civilization only.

Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: December 03, 2005, 10:56:19 AM »
The problem itself is the "Black Metal" mindset, which seems to be a pyramid mentality; one side claims that BM post 95 is dead and has nothing left to offer, while the other can do nothing more than replicate earlier works, but with a dictophone recorder.

The problem is that the audience, and the musicians, are on the whole not as intelligent.

There is plenty of room in black metal to create great things; very few are doing it (fewer than five).

Until black metal abandons its inclusive clubhouse mentality, this will not change:

Thamuz: I like lots of the old stuff. However, I'm tired of recent "black metal" (black hardcore, really) as it is a pretender to the throne. Praise the good, demote the bad.

Metal / Re: Black metal = terms contradicting aesthetics?
« on: December 03, 2005, 10:31:05 AM »
Exactly. Music and music terminology are two separate things.

Depends on who uses the terminology.

Another way to put this is that not every book, or every sentence, is true.

The next level on that is realistic: a sentence can be logically true but not apply to this world at all (If dogs are anarchists, they probably don't vote).

Metal / Re: Thrash
« on: December 03, 2005, 10:29:18 AM »
Thrash=hybrid between speed metal and extremist punk hardcore (1980-1987).

"Thrash Metal" = marketing term

"Retro-Thrash" = pop music

<3 ANAL <3

Metal / Re: "Jewtastic"
« on: December 03, 2005, 10:23:42 AM »
a highly respectable jew that was once very popular in the media:


Sagan was respectable, although his "science will save us" is a bit shortsighted. Comparable are Michael Crichton and Steven Hawking: both have similar failings.

As I tired of saying, the essence of nationalism is not "the Other is bad." The essence of nationalism is that each people must thrive on its own, and can only do that when separated from cultures which are going in other directions. Jews, Negroes, etc. are as incompatible with European as the inverse is true.

Let them have their own way, and us ours, and it's fair for everyone. Try to paint them as universally assholes, and it's a fail. Judaism is repulsive to me and I want it nowhere near my people; there are plenty of good Jews, although I don't want them near my people either. Other is Other. It must fuck off.

Metal / Re: legion, is there any other album like it?
« on: December 03, 2005, 10:20:55 AM »
Try Luciferion instead, they are nearby as well.

Stylistically, very similar especially to first album Deicide.

Musically, they seem very much like heavy metal to me, which is why I don't listen to them anymore. It's not badly done; clearly musically educated.

If you want my recommendation for something like Legion, here it is:

Beethoven's 2nd & 3rd Symphonies

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