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Metal / Re: NSBM  [ FAIL ]
« on: August 30, 2005, 06:48:33 PM »
Absurd sounds like a band of R.A.C./Oi more than Black Metal, reminds me Sturmwehr at 33rpm.

I would listen to Asgardsrei. It has both elements, surely, but so did many early black metal bands (Impaled Nazarene, Darkthrone, Bathory).

In fact, I'd identify crust as well as Oi in the heritage of Absurd. Amebix, Discharge, the Exploited all factor into their sound. The Oi elements come mainly in that one guitar solo on the first track on Asgardsrei, and the rhythm section.

First two Absurd albums are excellent. Their recent stuff: no opinion stated.

Metal / Re: NSBM  [ FAIL ]
« on: August 30, 2005, 06:46:21 PM »
I still cannot not understand the connection between Black Metal and National Socialism.
@Fieldmouse, I second that.

I. Black metal is a Romanticist genre.
II. Romanticism has been associated through history with nationalism, as nationalism is an organic form of politics and includes:
(a) Racial segregation
(b) Aristocratism
(c) Fascism
(d) Meritocracy by ability (not money!!!)
III. National Socialism (NAZISM) is an extreme but pragmatic form of nationalism
IV. National Socialism was the last political movement to take into account interests of ethnic "whites"
V. National Socialism is beyond Jewish-Christian "morality" in that it does not affirm the importance of the individual over doing what is right
VI. Therefore, many of the founding black metal bands were sympathetic to NS or to its constituent ideals, even if not properly NS!

This really isn't that complicated.

Metal / Onslaught UK
« on: August 30, 2005, 05:07:49 PM »

Including forum for discussion of British metal issues (BJs, hot Carl, fisting, etc).

Metal / Re: Demilich tshirts
« on: August 30, 2005, 04:50:25 PM »
Demilich News

One thing about metal: if you do it for the money, it corrupts you. It's better to have no expectation from it except that your music will stay in print and people will like it. The minute you try to make metal your day job, you become a whore. Look at how well Immolation turned out vs their colleagues who made it a money proposition (Deicide, Morbid Angel, Amorphis, Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, etc)

Demilich Site

Demilich in TX would be a great thing.

Metal / Re: Rigor Mortis - original lineup - live in Ft Wo
« on: August 30, 2005, 03:53:02 PM »
Rigor Mortis has confirmed a show in Houston on Friday, October 28 at Forgetta'Bout It

We have a hell of a lineup which will consist of Eternity Black from Houston.This band has former members from Texas metal legends Helstar.  Also on the bill will be the original Texas "Thrash" band "Rotting Corpse" from Dallas/Ft. Worth.  Houston's own Cremator will also be part of this night of metal
destruction.  2 Houston bands? 2 Dallas bands all together in one night.  Don't miss this one!

Rigor Mortis would also like to thank all of those crazy metalheads in Houston that fought for us to do a show in Houston and helped make this show become a reality!  Rot!

7 Shows In 9 Nights - Texas Metal Will Never Be The Same!

Oct. 21 - Backroom - Austin, TX (With Rotting Corpse)
Oct. 22 - Galaxy - Dallas, TX
Oct. 23 - Jacks - San Antonio, TX
Oct. 24 - Lucy's - San Marcos, TX
Oct. 26 - Hailey's - Denton
Oct. 28 - Forgetta 'Bout It ? Houston (With Eternity Black, Rotting Corpse and Cremator)
Oct. 29 - Axis - FT. Worth, TX (With Gammacide and Rotting Corpse)

We also have confirmed Hailey's in Denton for Wednesday, October 26.

Rigor Mortis "Re-Animate Tour 2005"

Oct. 21 - Backroom - Austin, TX
Oct. 22 - Galaxy - Dallas, TX
Oct. 23 - Jacks - San Antonio, TX
Oct. 24 - Lucy's - San Marcos, TX
Oct. 26 - Hailey's - Denton
Oct. 28 - Forgettabout It's - Houston
Oct. 29 - Axis - FT. Worth, TX


Metal / Re: Averse Sefira - Plagabraha from new album
« on: August 30, 2005, 02:50:40 PM »
Unofficial Update: How to Get "Tetragrammatical Astygmata" CD

The band are taking pre-orders now, with an ability to fill them after September 15. Apparently, mail from Brazil has been slow to all of North America, and this is why the delay.

CDs are $15 including shipping to any USA address. Send money* now, and it will be waiting for when the CDs are there, thus allowing shipping at that time. Band contact is as follows:

Averse Sefira
PO Box 2021
Cedar Park, Tx


You can also send paypal cash (not credit) **payments to:


This update is not an official announcement from the band, but has been generated in response to the many queries (3-7 daily) we are receiving here. I have ordered from this band three times since 1997 and have always received prompt, courteous service.

* Send money orders with the "pay to" field blank; use US postal money orders or money orders drawn on a US (not Canadian) bank. You can also send well-hidden cash, but it is your responsibility and not the band's.

** Paypal offers two types of payment. Money send from funds in your paypal account are "cash" payments; money you charge to a credit card is a a "credit" payment. Averse Sefira can take "cash" payments only.

Metal / Re: Piggy is toast
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:13:14 PM »
August 24, 2005

Our good friend and guitar hero Denis D'Amour aka Piggy is very ill. We are
helping Denis in every way that we can to feel comfortable while he fights
to get healthy. Denis is a very private person and does not want to make a
big deal about his illness, so we will not be able to answer questions about
his condition or give any other details at this time. We appreciate your

Please feel welcome to send any notes, good words and positive vibes to
Piggy at one or both of the following contacts and we will make sure he gets
to read them.

Email Address:

Subject: "Get Well Piggy"

Mailing Address:

Attn: Denis "Piggy" D'Amour
Chophouse Records
454 Las Gallinas Avenue
# 353
San Rafael, CA 94903-3618
- - - - - - - -
This is terrible. We love you and need you, Denis! Lche pas!

« on: August 26, 2005, 03:12:57 PM »
 Quebec City newspaper Le Soleil is reporting that VOIVOD guitarist Denis "Piggy" D'Amour is suffering from advanced colon cancer so advanced that the disease has spread to his liver and is currently resting in the palliative care ward at a Montreal hospital, surrounded by family and friends.


Metal / Exponentiation 2
« on: August 23, 2005, 07:00:20 PM »
Zine is not dead.

Will be emerging soon. Our staff struggles with full-time jobs, failing volunteers, and of course, quality control.

I think this one will blow some minds.

Metal / Re: Growing out of Metal?
« on: August 23, 2005, 06:59:19 PM »
Post-1995 black metal is as distinct as pre-1995, in that the "After" picture contains 3-5 good bands and the rest are shit.

NSBM arose almost entirely post-1995, and I see no point remembering it. Early Absurd is great, so is Graveland, so is Burzum, so is Darkthrone, but I'm never going to give a shit about soundalike NSBM from America and Russia. What is this, a cold war redux? "We're sorry we hated on Germany?"

Metal / Re: Definitive metal albums
« on: August 23, 2005, 06:57:30 PM »
I'm not saying these albums are "the best of the best", but I think they are pretty definitive of their genres. I also took into consideration the bands that will be remembered in history.

Definitive to me means "archetypal," or exemplary of what the genre was about, not necessarily a best of or list every album of.

I'd like to do a list for outsiders: how to understand metal music through its definitive acts.

Heavy Metal
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Iron Maiden - Killers
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
Motorhead - On Parole

Speed Metal
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Prong - Beg to Differ

DRI - Dealing With It
Cryptic Slaughter - Money Talks
Dead Horse - Horsecore
COC - Six Songs, etc.

Sodom - Persecution Mania
Kreator - Endless  Pain
Destruction - fuck, I forget the title ;)
Rigor Mortis - Rigor Mortis
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Pestilence - Malleus Malificarum

Death Metal
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Deicide - Legion
Obituary - Cause of Death
Amorphis - The Karelian Isthmus
Therion - Beyond Sanctorum
Massacra - Final Holocaust

Black Metal
Immortal - Diabolical Full Moon Mysticism
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Enslaved - Vikinglgr Veldi
Gorgoroth - Antichrist
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: August 23, 2005, 06:51:10 PM »

I hate it when people call them "thrash." It's like calling the English heterosexual.

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