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Metal / Culture = enemy
« on: June 18, 2005, 03:41:37 PM »
East of the LIRR's Sunnyside yard, underneath the No. 7 elevated line, on a forlorn stretch of Queens Boulevard, smack between the Getty gas station and the Love Shack porn shop, there's this new basement venue called the Metal Kingdom. Co-proprietor Edwin also plays bass in Gnosis—the openers for the Kingdom's inaugural evening. The outfit—one of four featured bands whose members hail from Latin America—plays neo-Incan/ Mayan/Aztec "tribal" metal: pan flutes, conch shells, and sludge guitars, with Pan-American, indigenous themes.

Globalized metal's not new. For decades, extreme metal disciples have honed their craft worldwide, a loose network with all the attendant subgenres (black metal, death metal, grindcore, and on and on). But the Metal Kingdom's majority-Latino metal crowd on American soil is an indication of just how much the demographics have shifted stateside. And metal is still one of the musics of working-class youth. Many Mexican and South and Central American kids particularly relate to its explicitly anti-Christian, anti-authoritarian themes. It's quite a sight, seeing outer-borough white ethnics throwing up the devil horn salute, headbanging alongside their
compañeros from all points south.

Gnosis were the most melodic, the most musical of the bands—in this scene that can be taken as a compliment or an insult. Less concerned with melody was Mexico's Discordia, with skinned-cow-head stage props and an impish, gurgling, hissing fiend of a singer.

The language barrier between the various acts and the crowd didn't matter—this is meta(l)-language; it's all spoken in tongues anyway. Take Bloodthrone, purveyors of—"waiter, there's a fly in my Genesis P-Orridge!"—American black war destruction blasphemy metal. These Jersey grind-toughs got props from the Latin kids, and vice versa. One big, blurred, meth-ill, metal-kill, spiked-armband, bullet-belted, moanin' wail. The language barrier between the various acts and the crowd didn't matter—this is meta(l)-language; it's all spoken in tongues anyway. Take Bloodthrone, purveyors of—"waiter, there's a fly in my Genesis P-Orridge!"—American black war destruction blasphemy metal. These Jersey grind-toughs got props from the Latin kids, and vice versa. One big, blurred, meth-ill, metal-kill, spiked-armband, bullet-belted, moanin' wail. It was a -heartening- confluence, considering how elements of the "black metal" scene flirt with some real odious ideologies, like "Odinism."

There we were, a writhing, polyglot mass, sweating to the strobe lights in that hellfire-hot basement. But this ain't no disco inferno. Them's sacrificial fires burning. And if you peer closely enough through the smoke, you just might be able to make out the smoldering embers of the past.

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0525,sotc1,65107,22.html


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Metal / Capricornus update
« on: June 18, 2005, 12:38:03 AM »

Hail and Kill!

Good news for all those who have helped me and encouraged in these hard last weeks and a real disappointment for all these fucking snitches who tried to bring me down. The public prosecutor has officially sunk investigation against me. I am not going to explain in the Internet (most of "evidence" against me collected and passed on by someone for police came from this source) how much did it cost me to convice "authorities" that most of charges shoud be rejected, enough to say paradoxally I am at liberty thanks to this corrupted jewish system. Although I am totally broken now and I am not able to continue some of my activities such as distribution for example anymore, I am FREE, PISSED OFF AND MORALLY STRONGER THAN EVER so beware - it' s payback time bitches...

These were only the words of anger and fury dedicated to persons who surely visit this forum sometimes, I decided to write today after receiving confrimation that my problems are over and the case is closed.

In a couple of days when I calm down I will post a longer and not so emotional explanation of my disappearance. Especially, I would like to apologize all people who awaited stuff from EASTERN HATE and got no response from our side. I promise to compensate your loss as soon as possible, but I just want to ask you for showing some patience yet. I was forced to contract a debt exeeding my financial possibilities many times and became bankrupt to avoid bringing an action in court which would also mean losing my job and prohibition for continuation of work in my profession.

FINALLY, there are two persons without whom I wouldn' t be able to write these words today at my home: Alex Kurtagic and Darkpilgrim. You guys gave me more than support, actually you delivered me from really serious troubles...It will never be forgotten.

Heathen Regards

Capricornus

http://www.easternhate.org/ehorgforum/

2359
Metal / Seth Putnam is alive
« on: June 18, 2005, 12:30:01 AM »
 JUNE 16th UPDATE


Sorry it's been so long since my last update. I switched to a new hospital
that didn't have a computer. Then on my 37th birthday (May 15) it was the
last day for me at that hospital, and I got involved wtih a state-run
program. I'm basically living in a foster home for cripples now. I'm not as
crippled as I was earlier, I use a walker to get around nowadays, but I'm
not in a wheelchair anymore. For anyone who has ordered shirts or CDs from
me please be patient, I'll try to get the orders out to you in the next
couple of months. Sorry to take so long but I'm not living where the shirts
and CDs are stored. Also I don't have a computer where I'm living now
either, so I can't really answer emails. I'm a few months behind on checking
emails as it is.

Anal Cunt managed to do a show on June 1. We got added onto the Eye Hate God
show in Boston. I had to sit in a chair during the show because I can't
walk, but we sounded great. It was also the first show with John Gillis back
on drums. We played for about 15 - 20 minutes. I'd like to thank Eye Hate
God for getting us on the show. So when I eventually get to a place where I
get to use a computer regularly, I'll get back to all the emails I have.

http://www.sethputnam.com/

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Metal / Hessians Unite
« on: June 18, 2005, 12:14:55 AM »
Music is sound that resembles life. It reveals not only the experience of life, but the emotions and ideas that the musician has in response to life. Heavy metal music sounds like a certain way of life, because a similar thought process is required to become a heavy metal musician. For this reason, heavy metal is more than a style; it's a culture.

The metal genre does not fit into the easy categories used for modern music. While it sounds modern, it champions the values of older times, such as honor, bloodlust, aggression, emotion and passion. It denies the plastic modern existence and insists on meaning being found in experience, not ownership. For this reason, heavy metal is a cross between ancient ideas and modern methods. Our utilitarian contemporary society has no words for what this is.

Since heavy metal isn't on the radar for mainstream civilization, they write it off and claim that people listen to metal for the sole purpose of irritating their parents. They deny its musical value, explain away its artistic value, and brush it aside by assuming it is not serious and worthy of study. For this reason, Hessians, or those who are part of the heavy metal culture, are one of the most marginalized groups in modern society today.

We have all seen varying ethnic and religious groups fight for their right to be recognized as unique and to have special rights and privileges. If at the "modern" university we have a Black Studies Department, and an Asian Studies Department, why not a Hessian Studies Department? Hessian culture has in the years since 1969 been a fundamental force in shaping our society, and remains one of its most persistent critics, all while developing its own way of existing.

Not all Hessians are alike. Some care about nothing and will not understand this web page at all. The few who believe in life and in the heavy metal lifestyle will find that Hessian culture is something they have sought for years, perhaps without knowing it at all. For Hessians, hessian.org is a reference material of their own society within an outer society. For those of you who are outsiders to Hessiandom, this is a chance to broaden your "diversity" and learn about an entirely singular culture that thrives among the things you consider normal, but will never bow down and join them.

http://www.hessian.org/

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Metal / Open letter to black metal
« on: June 15, 2005, 09:14:24 PM »
Dear Blackmetal fans and artists,

Now that your genre has sold itself out, we don't even remotely consider you a threat. In fact, we once worried you'd upset what people believed, but now that you've humbled yourselves by spewing out crap, we just don't care. You're just another special group of tools in a world overflowing with them. Please carry on and pretend you didn't read this message. It's important for us to have amusing tools of various stripes so we have something to mock when we're at overpriced bars.

Thanks,
The rest of the world

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Metal / New Krieg MP3
« on: June 14, 2005, 09:14:23 PM »
"Peace, Love, Unity, Respect" is the title.

http://www.no-colours-records.de/mp3/krieg.mp3

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Metal / Narrow Squirting Bowel Movement  [ FAIL ]
« on: June 14, 2005, 01:01:39 AM »
The NS scene turned out to be a complete farce with bands trying to show off how "politically incorrect" they were with ranting about genocide, and then turning around and griping about the degeneracy of drugs and animal torture and child abuse to the point where they sounded like obese middle-aged suburban women trying to keep their local playgrounds safe.

http://www.fmp666.com/messageboard/showthread.php?p=29841

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Metal / Re: Underrated albums?
« on: June 10, 2005, 03:15:07 PM »
Quote
I've asked this before and received no answer, so I'll try again since it has been brought up:
Maybe I just didn't hear it enough, but to me that GOLEM album sounds almost *precisely* like CARCASS "Necroticism," right down to some of the mannerisms.  Did I miss something?


Answer: I don't know. I've never heard it.

However, aesthetics are different than musical quality... if someone produced an Entombed clone album and wrote great music, it'd be acceptable to me.


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Metal / Blackmetal and Failure
« on: June 10, 2005, 03:07:54 PM »
(If you're one of those people who has difficult with socially-unacceptable truth, stop reading here. Your replies of protest and complaining will be deleted in this thread anyway.)

This is a message about practicality.

If you want to spread an idea, or create a culture, it had better be about quality.

Since 1995, black metal has been on a downward curve, only salvaged from 1996-2000 by the bands left over from the first wave and their quality output.

Now there are only a handful of bands doing anything worth listening to, if you value your time.

In my experience, supporting mediocre garbage only attracts mediocre people. This is what has happened to black metal. For every minute spent supporting the "scene," one gets more idiots flowing into the genre, because idiots home in on idiotic music. Like rats are happy living in garbage, and pigs are happy living in feces, idiots like to be surrounded by idiocy, because they understand it.

I suggest that anyone who loves "black metal" become ultra-fascist regarding what he or she chooses to endorse. Having more black metal of lower quality will not help. It's more productive to praise the few bands that made great music, even if they're ten years "out of date" (great music never goes out of date, but trends always do).

To those Narrow Squirting Bowel Movement warriors out there, I suggest folding up the card tables, taking down the flags and going home until you have some better bands. Narrow Squirting Bowel Movement was Burzum, Darkthrone, Absurd, and Graveland. Now it's people making tedious and bad music for the sake of "putting forth an ideology." Let me tell you folks something that the wise among you have learned: idiotic music never makes your ideology stronger - but it does attract more idiots, so while you're thinking how popular you are, you're actually working against your own cause. Finally, the wake up call will come when you realize you're surrounded by incompetent blockheads.

Narrow Squirting Bowel Movement isn't alone in this. I didn't single it out for political reasons, but because its decline is so obvious at this point it cannot be ignored as a great example. However, black metal isn't any better off. To all who read here, I recommend NOT supporting any band of quality LESS than that of the greats:

Enslaved - Vikinglgr Veldi
Burzum - Det Som Engang Var, Filosofem
Gorgoroth - Antichrist
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Immortal - DFMM, Pure Holocaust
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Graveland - Celtic Winter, Thousand Swords
Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
Havohej - Dethrone the Son of gOD
Demoncy - Joined in Darkness

I still have hopes for some bands (Watain, Averse Sefira) as their output is getting better over time. They are worth supporting for actually trying to ascend to the heights of the "ancient ones." Anyone with a lesser goal should be ignored, as to support them is to destroy black metal as concept and art.


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Metal / Re: Necroharmonic Records
« on: June 09, 2005, 07:05:34 PM »
This label has scummy policies and is run by shitheads and I do not recommend buying from them.


2368
Metal / Therion linked to National Socialism
« on: June 09, 2005, 04:24:36 PM »
Känd svensk hårdrockare medlem i nazistparti

I senaste numret av den svenska musiktidningen Close Up Magazine avslöjas att att det pretentiösa svenska metalbandet Therions sångare, Christofer Johnsson, är medlem i de nazianstrukna partierna Sverigedemokraterna och Nationaldemokraterna.

http://www.indymedia.no/newswire/display/17012/index.php


Here's the Therion site:

http://www.megatherion.com/

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Metal / Morbid Thoughts Records
« on: June 09, 2005, 02:44:40 AM »
As veterans of the metal scene, each with nearly 20 years of involvement to show for it, we have seen some really impressive bands come and go…and come back again!  While CD’s serve a purpose, the quality and collect ability of true vinyl LP’s can never be matched. IF IT IS AUDIO BLASPHEMY, IT MUST BE ON VINYL.

http://www.morbidthoughts.net/

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Metal / Re: Immolation - Harnessing Ruin tour
« on: June 07, 2005, 10:27:08 PM »
6/22 in San Antonio... worth attending if you're in Texas.


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