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Metal / Heathenism and Metal
« on: July 24, 2010, 11:53:13 PM »
Arguably started full-throttle with Bathory and being overdone by impostors after Enslaved, Burzum and Emperor came into the limelight. Regardless of this, which ultimately removes a large portion of the value from this cultural and/or ideological lifestyle, when it is done genuinely, I believe this inclusive topic allows music to connect with the listener (or vice versa) on a psychologically altering level that is indeed healthy.

Whether the means suits the end of naturalism, (poly)theism or increases cultural awareness, these few exercises in Heathen evangelism via the medium of metal music has brought into awareness one of the many available spectrums in the metaphysical prism at large.

It encompasses all of the previously discussed topics in former metals:

-Death as a life-process that should not be feared, but accepted as an identifiable truth. Beautiful, natural: the great transformation (Death Metal).
-Mysticism as a reality, possibility, or at least a reflection of nature through archetype. Rebellion against religions that have been altered and twisted to abuse. (Black Metal).
-Battle, Glory, Conquest, Mayhem, Insanity/Berserk and Strife (Punk Rock/ Punk Hardcore).
-The value of the drink alcohol and its beneficial effects (Oi!/Punk Hardcore).
-The championing of strength-of-self while still remaining humble as a microscopic being within the macrocosm (early Crust Punk).
-Environmentalism, restrain from drugs and humanity-debilitating substances that remove the self from reality (Speed Metal/ Thrash).
-Inevitable doom, destruction of all things living, a day of darkness: Ragnarok (Doom Metal).
-Political satire (Grindcore [Unleashed did this a lot]).

It seems great, but the music oftentimes relies heavily on the Heathenism as a crutch. People oftentimes marginalize themselves into "Heathen Metal" or "Viking Metal" or "Pagan Metal" fans and rarely realize that many of these above listed values can be found in non-Heathen, non-Viking and non-Pagan metal bands, namely many of the bands listed on Dark Legions Archive and beyond.

I don't think a band needs to be a Heathen, Viking or Pagan Metal band to display these values, and I think people that are interested in the aforementioned topics should try and discern if these are present within more valuable metal bands than those with gimmicks.

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Metal / Wyrd
« on: July 21, 2010, 12:14:42 AM »
Let me start off by saying I absolutely love this band for reasons that most might have overlooked. I get into this discussion with people all of the time when they bring up bands like Absurd, Wolfnacht, Nokturnal Mortum et all... or Tyr, Finntroll, Falkenbach et all...

Wyrd was able to tackle two areas of art in one fell swoop. They play ethnically aware, Pagan/Folk Black Metal. Sure, titles are empty across the board, but this band was able to do all of the above better than any band before or after. It's almost as if they took all of the expected "popular" bands of the related styles and fused them all into one cohesive sound that rivaled all of them.

Listening to the first four albums reminds me of the sheer POWER  that Black Metal used to have. Wyrd was so serious with their music regardless of their production "limitations." Especially on the first two albums, everything sounds organic in that "analog" way of recording everything. I feel like that captured the sound of naturalism that most of these "Pagan/Folk" Black Metal bands are failing to excel in.

Looking back at Hellkult, their former project, it's pretty clear as to how their sound evolved into what Wyrd would become. Their method of recording was the same uber-kvlt 4-track I guess. Wyrd however reminds me of an actualized form of of what Hellkult began toying with. Natural (live) sound, demo-quality but well composed and well written audible but analog music.

Considering the age of these guys, the quality of music is outstanding. Hellkult must have been in their mid to late teens, and when Wyrd started, Narqath could have only been in his early 20's. As of recently, that guy STILL looks young as hell.

Aside from all of this bullshit, all albums are worth getting in my opinion, but the later ones after Heathen and Huldrafolk progressively get more Odinpopish as the mid-to-late 2000's go on.

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Interzone / Eye Care thread: Glasses and Contact Lenses
« on: July 17, 2010, 05:46:51 PM »
So I've been wearing contact lenses for about 11 years without a spare set of glasses for a backup. I know, that's a retarded move, but when I was younger I just wanted to avoid "glasses" as much as possible. As I got older, the necessity for wearing glasses became more apparent. Blood vessel buildup and inflammation apparently occurs when your eyes are being suffocated and are lacking oxygen. Over time this can cause serious damage. I decided to purchase a set of glasses for a backup + other reasons. To expound further on these reasons:

1) Nighttime laziness (If I'm watching a John Carpenter film and am falling asleep, I don't want to have to get up and take my contact lenses out).
2) Eye Care for the obvious above listed reasons.
3) Hard times when I can't afford boxes of contact lenses, or if one falls out and I can't find it, or if it falls onto the floor of some venue that's covered in AIDS (New Jersey has a lot of those places).

Problem that I'm immediately experiencing: DIZZINESS. When I turn my head to the side, the whole world seems like it's moving with me. This especially sucks in the sunlight and in the heat. My eyes are also extremely dry all of a sudden, but that might be due to the air hitting them without the lens covering that it's so accustomed to. Has anyone gone through this transition before? How long can I expect for this discomfort to continue?

Also, any thoughts about lazer surgery? Does it actually work: have you experienced it or know someone that has?

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Metal / Cavalera In Wonderland...
« on: July 13, 2010, 03:21:28 AM »
You know that old saying that people never change? Or... you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOSjT8gQXY

This guy has been tapping into more and more of that old sleeping Death Metal consciousness since the late 2000's. The Cavalera Conspiracy put out an album that sounds like this too... I don't have it though so I can't comment on it.

I'd like to see Max Cavalera take his current bands and redeem the damage already done, with more tracks like the one linked above. It's clear that he can still write that type music.

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Interzone / Is "social-life" a mockery of human-life?
« on: July 06, 2010, 01:19:53 AM »
This is something I've been pondering for a while now but could never hone in on the problem with the so-called "social life" of the emerging millennials.

My impression: "Social-Life" as I have always been under the impression of, should be a section of your human-life's free-time in which you set aside to trade ideas and information through conversation and interaction with other humans, usually your peers. Through cathexis, you change based upon the learned behavior and interests of your "friends" or equals whom you admire in some certain area and hope to emulate, and in the best case, mutually mature together, dually or as a multiple unit. A strong group of "friends" is something that simply cannot be bought, and can motivate anyone to go beyond their current confines and overcome handicaps.

The reality: Few people actually operate in that way, and it's nearly pathetic how common social-settings are structured as. The most recurrent social-setting that immediately comes to mind is the following:

1) Someone's house
2) Group of egotistical enemies grouped together under the premise of similar interests or aesthetics or ideology (distinguished from friends - there's no cathexis involved)
3) Unwelcoming personalities, they fight amongst themselves enough to even consider friendliness to a prospective and temporary scapegoat.
4) Drugs, and lots of them too. Usually, and in the way they use them in excess, a meaningful discourse is rarely possible in such an inebriated state of mind.
5) Behavioral codes of do's and don'ts developed inclusively that deems one gay or "ok"
6) A very, VERY loose musical taste. You can often find "metalheads" (distinguished from Hessians), playing things on guitar like Clutch or Pink Frothy AIDS or Children of Bodom and really appreciating it.
7) Single, non-relationship status across the board (adding additional infighting the moment a vagina walks into the room)
8) Shit jobs, shit lives and shitty outlooks that depress the entire bunch, not celebrated in the Crust or Sludge glorification, but reflectively self-pitying.

I can't recall how many times I've seen this actual scenario, and it's recreated every time one of my friends says, "Hey, there's a party tonight, do you want to go?" At this point I already know what the outcome will be like. This is a complete mockery of human life.

There's only been one time in my life where there was such a group of people who had a bond like "The Impression" and it centered around a mutual love for Doom Metal and the many sub genres of it and an acute/celebratory use of Marijuana. Truly a bunch of ego-less people who avoided the "elite-druglord" mentality as well as the "party-thrash USA" ideal as well. Aside from that one instance, I haven't been able to find many other people aside from my best friend who actually resemble those who seek for a productive and meaningful "social-life," as to not turn it into a mockery of human life.

Every since I took time to ponder this damnation for the rational millennial, I actually started to have fun at these terrible events, through a process of transferring my my disgust into humor. It's wonderful to troll these people subtlety, to-their-faces and watch them be unable to realize it. For example,

Me: (::coming to the end of a conversational example::)... something like Amebix maybe?
Him: Ahh I don't know (::drinks more::) I don't like that band anyway (::burp::)
Me: Of course not, you're into Crust.
Him: What?
Me: Do you like Crust?
Him: (::doesn't realize what I originally said::) I love Crust, what do you know about it?
Me: Apparently nothing.
Him: Well, it's like pretty much the only real punk out there. Fast and shit.
Me: Ah so crust isn't slow?
Him: Not really, you'll see if you ever listen to it.
Me: (Thinks to himself about Hellbastard and Axegrinder).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YHx46Uofyw&feature=related

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Interzone / An exercise in Comedy
« on: June 30, 2010, 10:43:48 PM »
Some funny, never-going-to-happen, scenarios on bullshit shows with Metal bands:

MTV's Cribs: featuring Bri Doom:
"Here's my building that I live in until they knock it down. There's my couch... no he's not asleep that's our sound-tech and he's dead from a heroine overdose... no I'm not going to call the ambulance. Here's my box of food that's going to last me until I have to steal some more. Oh that room (?)... that's where I sleep... Well I can't afford a bed because I spend most of my money on books and alcohol."

Paris Hilton's my new BFF with: featuring Paul Ledney:
"I'm really just interested in violating your ass cavity. I will violate it regardless."

The Telemark Farm (season 3 of the "Jersey Shore") featuring Bard Faust:
During a private interview segment: "I don't know, I just assumed that his hair-gel, orange tan and shaved chest meant he was gay... I didn't know... seriously I didn't"

The Rock of Love with David Vincent:
"For you next challenge, I've left instructions for all of you to encircle the sigil of the ancient ones conveniently carved on the stone altar in the backyard temple. Your ritual will include 40 specifically selected names of Marduk, and the raising of Pazuzu. From here I will enter to receive the pleasures of the flesh that you will all so earnestly offer to me with pleas of acceptance... no I will not don my Evil-D outfit, those days are behind me, and if you mention it again you will be eliminated, and by eliminated I mean sacrificed to Yog-Sothoth."

Jackass featuring The Cro-Mags:
Enter scene of a gang beatdown on someone's father as a practical joke.


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Metal / Live Dissection Comparison
« on: June 29, 2010, 08:47:28 PM »
The Rebirth of Dissection did one good thing -- Tour. This served a number of awesome purposes.

1) Fulfill the rabid, fervent desire for Dissection maniacs to see them live.
2) The Rebirth of Dissection DVD
3) The Rebirth of Dissection Live Album (Not Reinkaos)

I hated Reinkaos, and was sorely disappointed when I first heard it. Though, I was not displeased with the live performances which were composed mostly of older material.

Since Jon got highly involved/obsessed with the occult while in prison, there was absolutely something different about live Dissection from the recorded albums as well as the live performances I've seen on video tape or downloaded from the internet.

You be the judge

1) Night's Blood recorded version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c3L0bqUnao
2) Night's Blood live in 1997: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSyIXYD2va4
3) Night's Blood live in 2004: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-13-LEOn30

The 2004 performance is so monolithic. There's something absolutely magical and almost scary about the intensity of how they played in that short block of time they were touring. They really made those songs from "The Somberlain" and "Storm of the Light's Bane" come to life. There's something about those songs that I can't put my finger on, and it has nothing to do with the sound quality, better equipment, or more time to practice.

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Metal / Sludge Metal suggestions
« on: June 26, 2010, 01:17:37 AM »
Eyehategod
Crowbar
Acid Bath
Soilent Green
Buzzov*en
Weedeater
Bongzilla
Sleep (sort of)
Electric Wizard (sort of as well...)

Make up the Sludge that I currently own, but I'd like to expand my collection into other more underground areas and bands, since I have only the originating staples. I'm certain that there's more good stuff out there from this genre,  but it's difficult (for me anyway) to find good Sludge. So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions OTHER than the ones I've listed already.

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Metal / The "Bad" Immortal Albums. Are we asking too much?
« on: June 23, 2010, 03:54:41 AM »
Precis: Given time, I think more people will rethink these outputs, myself included.

Now understandably, this discussion was brought up tonight around the time I was on bong-rip #5, and the 2nd 40oz. I think it's valid nonetheless. When people refer to the "bad" Immortal albums (ATHOW, DIB, SOND and ASF), are they speaking about their quality as independent albums, or in reference to previous work, or is it impossible to separate quality in relation to career?

I think that all three approaches confront something important.

1) As independent entities, Post-Demonaz (on guitar) Immortal albums aren't bad, in fact they're very good. This is quite evident.
2) In reference to Immortal's previous work, they stink balls. This is quite evident.
3) How important is it to refer back to previous works? Are we asking too much? Maybe so, maybe not.

Maybe so:
Immortal produced self-evident quality work from Pure Holocaust to Blizzard Beasts. DFM is debatable to most people I've spoken with, including myself who doesn't really like that album. With the change of guitarists from Demonaz to Abbath, the later really shocked us all in his adeptness in an instrument he was not wholly acustomed to. He kept the band going, taking it in a new direction considering the previous lineage was not continuable due to circumstances out of anyone's control. Making the best out of a bad situation,  Immortal produced four albums, ATHOW and SOND being the highest achievement of the four, the other two living in the shadow of their previous efforts. Are we asking too much by calling this stuff shit? I think so.

Maybe not:
Immortal might have cheated with their drumming on Pure Holocaust and Battles in the North. Two snares springed on eachother and possible sped up drums (still debatable), plus triggers. They finally draft a man who can really play this stuff (Horgh) and he follows not one step in the direction of the award winning blizzard-blast-fest of the signiture Immortal style. Immortal was capable of writing great music with Abbath on bass, so why was it necessary for Abbath to move to guitar? Surely the Demonaz-styled riffs could have been emulated by him on bass and they could have auditioned for a guitarist similar to Demonaz in ability and creativeness. The image of face-painted battle-hessians degeneratedn into KISS-worship and novelty. Death Metal became a crutch for their "Black Metal," there is no "Thrash" in that music, anyone can see that. For all of the money they made on tours, from album sales on Nuclear Blast, and t-shirt availability, they became a joke to the antagonists of Black Metal, where as once they were godly and untouchable. Are we asking too much? I think not.

This is a good topic to brood upon. Especially if you are an Immortal enthusiast.
Sellouts or not, nobody will ever be able to convince me that there is a Black Metal band more important than Immortal, unless in the unlikely situation where a better band arises.

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Metal / Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
« on: June 20, 2010, 07:02:49 AM »
I wonder what this thread is about?



Being a relative newcomer to the Doom Metal genre (and by relative, I mean only about two years of seriously committed collecting/ listening), I've finally tasted the winepress of Candlemass.

My formal introduction to them came about seven years ago as my best friend/ fellow ANUS member played their first album "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus" for me in a car ride headed to a get-together. He was pretty much excited as can be about this personally unexplored genre of Metal. From what I can recall, this record invoked the most fantastically dreary hopeless I've ever fealt before. I vowed to endure the discography then, but other illusory priorities seemed to arise, and they fell onto the backburner of importance...

Seven years later I sift through the clearance section of Vintage Vinyl records during a Danzig signing (every now and then chucking to myself regarding the self-absorbed pitter-patter of a tiny man wearing mirrored aviators in doors). That's when I see in the "C" section, sand"witch"ed between some crappy nobodies, CANDLEMASS "Live." This time, fate had its grip upon my decison at the price of $3.99.

I recognized the tracklisting containing a stir-fry of the first four albums. At this point I had already witnessed the rediculousness of the "Bewitched" video, complete with Chris Farley/ Messiah moves and Dead from Mayhem being grim in the background as one of the Candlemass Hessians.

I loved that song so I figured that now is the time. Clearly this is the best Doom Metal album I own. The only times I remember this is a live album is when Messiah addresses the crowd. Truly the sound is rich, heavy and nearly studio-quality, maybe even better. The sheer DRAMA of this interpretation of Heavy Metal is so theraputic. These guys truly had an award winning style to them and I'm utterly in love with it.

From the dramatic, moving riff passages, to the crushing sound of the drums, the thick and murky sound of bass guitar mastery... and just when you think it can't get any better... Messiah Marcolin: fat guy with an white-man's afro dressed in a wizard robe and possessing the voice of the Gods themselves. This is so fucking good it makes me never want to enter reality again.

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Metal / TV Death Metal documentary / Amon on cable TV (1990's)
« on: June 16, 2010, 10:04:22 PM »
I'm not saying this is a "great" documentary, or representative of early 90's DM.

It does however feature David Vincent talking about the genre in the simple-tongue, which out of his mouth sounds like psychic commands. I'm never impressed with Glenn Benton's interviews in the early days or even later on. Keep watching though, the videotape cuts to an AMON (pre-Deicide) performance on cable TV. At first though, seeing the Deicide boys dressed in their spiked armor, in some decently lit performance room is kind of depressing. My first assumption was (these guys are about to make fools out of themselves in front of the world). I ate those thoughts after watching it. Midway though Sacrificial Suicide, I felt as if I was absorbed back into that mythological nightmare world that was flanked by high-school, "Stop-The-Madness", skateboarding and underage drinking. Probably one of the best performances I've seen them do, though I am judging this based on nostalgic principals alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESBVxRwbKX8&feature=related

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Metal / Obnoxiously Great Gothenburg Metal: THE ABYSS
« on: June 15, 2010, 07:39:00 PM »
The Swedes have always been my favorites in Black and Death Metal. I think they put the most focus on the narrative composition and riff-based angle in Black/Death Metal while at the same time ironically having a great instrument-aptitude.

With the "Gothenburg" style in question... I am just floored by THE ABYSS. "The Other Side" and "Summon The Beast" on one digipack re-release has become my new fetish. The latter album contains less quality than the first, but still has it's moments when the brilliance of "The Other Side" rears its shining head through the garble of the norsecore.

"The Other Side" is probably the best output from this genre and although the band classifies themselves as purely Black Metal, there is the obvious "Template" (as the ANUS site says) of Gothenburg Melodic Death Metal within that album. If the final product was a Black Metal album, the approach was definitely spiced with DM.

The riffs on that album are so masterfully crafted, and the execution of every instrument is nearly perfect. Necrophobic definitely comes in a close second with these guys as the champions of the genre. Necrophobic being the situation where the final product was Death Metal but was spiced with Black Metal from the appraoch.

EDIT: I've been listening to my new toy all day and I must say that after listening about eight times, "Summoning The Beast" is actually growing on me very much so. However, my tentative explanation is that is flows well within the same packaging as "The Other Side." The songs that follow are clearly inferior- no argument in that category, but there are some riffs and furthermore, songs, on that album (meaning "Summoning The Beast") that are unique and irrefutable in their own right. At the end of the day, I'm glad that it follows "The Other Side" to complete the discogaphy in my edition.

If you're going to purchase one form of THE ABYSS's productivity, I suggest to go for the economically sound, sleak packaging of the double album split.


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Metal / H.P. Lovecraft's Influence on Metal
« on: June 12, 2010, 09:49:42 PM »
When I read Lovecraft, I see a sinisterly under-appreciated mastery of English language's narrative capability. This goes beyond Horror and Science-Fiction, as I would feign to include this gentleman's writings in that category. Rather, Lovecraft I feel belongs in a unique genre in his own right. His writings are impersonally romantic, elating the senses evoked by nature, the cosmic minds that lord over them, and the possibility that lies in the spaces between.

It's no big shocker that his life's work influenced metal in such a profound way. The mind of a singular man was able to create a pantheon, universe, and mythos that focus on an "evil" more hideous, wretched and elemental than any judeo-christian fear ever recorded. The interesting thing about his "evil" is that it's makeup is wholly indifferent towards the well being of mankind. There's times where "Through the Gates of The Silver Key" make me question if Lovecraft was making a bolder, broader statement about the nature of what mankind perceives as "evil." Is evil power? Furthermore, is that power truly superior in all regards that it is unwilling to make the bigger portion of humanity, which suffers from the inequity of fear (of death) and doubt (of accomplishment), part of their elite fold?

Lovecraft was definitely influenced by the following factors:
Fear- Of the unknown; of water (notice the crustacean forms); of foreign races
Doubt- Of a benevolent creator; of benevolent creators; of anything benevolent whatsoever in control of our random, chaotic universe (madness).

Metal, or underground Metal to be specific has followed in Lovecraft's footsteps in ways that would make him proud were he alive today and if he was ever capable of feeling pride.

Death Metal, aside from the bands that make blatant references to Lovecraftian themes, on a wider spectrum takes a similar approach in their narrative construction of both song and lyric.

Death Metal mocks the standard: the utilitarian adult's illusion of happiness and grandeur as the sum total of life's expectancies. Truly, death is the only thing we can holistically be sure of- and this knowledge gives us power over death itself in that we elate it's natural-ness whereas others hide in cowardice. Furthermore, Death Metal embraces that of the unknown and welcomes the things that "go bump in the night." Death Metal uses these things as the protagonists of their narratives - and with good reason. Death Metal allows this malevolence to be manifested and brought into the light of day, raining blood and guts on their hippie pride parade. (True) Death Metal is apathetic towards joy, pleasure, partying and the like. The following war-cries can be heard repeatedly in the glory days of the genre: "Suffer," "Arise," and whatever one-word Bear-like roar they choose to make a recurrent vocal filler.

Death Metal riffs aren't joyful, but they are powerful. The normal, utilitarian adult is wholly incapable of being moved by this music. The utilitarian is moved only by positive, life-affirming stimulus (power metal, sex, drugs, money). Death Metal rather speaks to the Hessian, who is nihilistic, rational, fierce,  and mentally powerful. These sounds, similar to Lovecraft's writings, communicates a reflection of superior selves and an antagonism to all things, people and concepts even mildly lackluster or in denial- reinforcing us to evolve beyond our self-actualization and maintain personal autonomy.

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Metal / Lyrics relative to music...
« on: June 10, 2010, 01:24:12 AM »
Something I find outstanding is when I listen to a band knowning nothing about their lyrical content previous to reading the insert and I'm not shocked, even in the slightest. I'd like to make it clear that I believe this is a good thing, since coherence and a straight-shot method in underground metal usually works towards a band's favor. Morbid Angel, Blasphemy and Obituary are my top picks for this phenomenon.

I've also come across bands that come out of left field with their lyrics, like Opprobrium, Nuclear Assault and Mercyful Fate remind me of this situation. Neither that the lyrics nor the music itself is bad (by any means), but there's times when I wonder, "what about that music could have evoked THOSE words to narrate THOSE sounds?" Nuclear Assault may be supported by the environmental AND humanitarian (both- seperate) side of Speed Metal, Thrash and Hardcore.

I guess it comes back to whether the lyrics or music came first. "Body Bag" is a great example of how music PROBABLY came first and evoked those lyrics that John Tardy would release from that gaping maw called a mouth of his.

"Welcome Princess of Hell" is an example of a song that had lyrics before music...I think...

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