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Interzone / Re: Philosophy classes
« on: April 25, 2012, 07:19:14 PM »
As far as philosophy, you need some rigorous state of mind or you end up in hipster territory.

Oh, you mean like a leftist (vegan feminist) Nietzschean? (I know one)

Interzone / Re: Overpopulation
« on: April 25, 2012, 04:41:14 PM »
I don't know who here has seen the video series by Albert Bartlett on Arithmetic, Population and Energy ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=relmfu ), but there is one thing that is clear:

There is no such thing as sustainable growth. The longer we draw this out, the more difficult it will be to go 'backwards'.

Interzone / Re: Am I going to hell for laughing at this?
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:25:47 PM »
Quote from: Dylar
I think you could, at the very least, argue that our society socially overvalues artists to the detriment of Art.

Unless you mean our society overvalues "artists" rather than those who create what would traditionally have been referred to as art (ie. pre-1900's), then I don't quite see how we overvalue artists. But even then, how do we overvalue what is seen as a status associated with being a loser?

Interzone / Re: How to save wildlife
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:09:18 PM »
I find it insane how modern man seems to gravitate towards noise and chaos within cities. The hustle and bustle of city life is conflated with 'excitement', while suburbs are often seen as breeding grounds of tedium and weariness. Is this a genuine preference for the city (and thus an aversion to the solitude of the unrefined and organic), or have we brainwashed ourselves to prefer it? Perhaps it is because when in a forest, we fear that we would be forced to face our true selves?

Interzone / Re: The Potential of Video Games
« on: April 24, 2012, 03:15:46 PM »
If you tally up all of the time I spent playing Diablo 1/2 in my younger days, it might even equate to a year of life. That said, the aesthetic was phenomenal and the atmosphere evocative of the old age. I admit to neurotically collecting items for builds though - video games can be quite the addiction. Planescape:Torment was great, Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim and even Dungeon Siege was good. I know they all have a similar aesthetic, but there is some quality, especially from Planescape, which also holds the distinction of great characters and story. RPGs are clearly designed with characters and story in mind, so I remain positive that when culture catches up, we can have a unique experience much like Planescape.

Despite this, I must also confess that I have found some gratification in certain shooters (ie. Bioshock and even the occasional CoD, Quake back in the day). Luckily, being only a casual gamer, I find it can be relieving to shoot proles in the face, even if in a derivative and repetitive fashion.

Interzone / Re: Under 120s gone: logistics
« on: April 24, 2012, 10:44:55 AM »
Quote from: Tralfamadorian
What happens in 500 years when the Earth is back to 7 billion? Another cull? Somehow, I think it would be a little more difficult the second time around.

If we somehow end up back in the same position, nature will solve our problem one way or the other. However, the initial culling would be done with a political underpinning in mind and so we would move back towards truth-seeking. It's not a matter of simply reducing the population but reducing it so that a healthy culture may thrive in place of our rotting one and then continuing in light of this population purge. If we have no hope of expectation to learn from the past, then none of the cultural progress we seek and expect of ourselves is even worth attempting.

Interzone / Re: Under 120s gone: better or worse?
« on: April 24, 2012, 10:35:05 AM »
Give the sub-120's and their leftist advocates their own state(s)/cities (ie. LA, NY, Detroit, Las Vegas) while simultaneously allocating other states to the >120's. Whichever experiment comes out on top is the clear winner.

Interzone / Romanticism for the past
« on: April 17, 2012, 11:11:47 AM »
I was simply trying to acquire reliable sources (if the Internet permits) on ancient life. In particular, I stumbled upon this theme regarding women's roles:

The women of the Middle Ages were totally dominated by the male members of their family. The women were expected to instantly obey not only their father, but also their brothers and any other male members of the family. Any unruly girls were beaten into submission and disobedience was seen as a crime against religion..

This provides a far different account: http://www.medieval-spell.com/Roles-Of-Women-In-The-Middle-Ages.html

The Roles of Women in the Middle Ages were not limited to spirituality.  They could inherit land and hold fiefs. They were entrusted with the charge of castles when their lords went on crusade. Such a chatelaine in later days was Jeanne de Montfort, who held the castle of Hennebon in Brittany.  Often they were heavily involved in politics, like Emma, wife of Edward the Confessor, who did more then anyone else to make the Norman Conquest to last.

1) Where is a more reliable source on family life in the ancient day? There are many claims of women being seen as "inferior" (Athenian women in particular compared to Egyptian conceptions). Is there a shred of truth to this "oppression" or is this a gross misrepresentation of ancient life?

2) Do we have a romanticized vision of the past when we conclude that family life and bonds between human beings were far superior?

Interzone / Re: Sustainability doesn't exist
« on: April 12, 2012, 08:48:37 PM »
As long as progress is conflated with "growth" (defined narrowly as more people, more technology and more stuff), nothing will happen.

How do you convince people that going backwards is not actually going backwards, then?

Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 12, 2012, 08:40:04 PM »
It may or may not be just me who notices that this forum suffers from something called "diversity". It's a given that some diversity is acceptable (after all, we're not neurotic drones), but I think we all need a refresher on the core ideas common to us all and the specific changes we want to see. That and perhaps a restatement of the purpose of the forum itself, which is inducing highly superfluous and juvenile conduct as of late. Worthless comments can get ignored as an example, urging the poster to want to contribute in an adequate manner in the subsequent time of asking. Instead, arguments are being fought out over the nature of arguments. It's metadurp. The reason this forum ever appealed to me in particular was because feelings were secondary to the content and this was enforced/desired group etiquette.

Ie. Is ANUS for nihilists anymore?

Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 12, 2012, 04:27:49 PM »
I've done nothing but a bit of cannabis with mixed results. I wasn't ready the first time, took a fair bit and had something of an anxiety attack. Next couple of times went down more smoothly, but I gathered it wasn't for me.

But judging by the experiences of the members here, I'm somewhat of an anomaly. I'm not sure what revelatory experiences I am missing out on, but I am going to stick to the safe and sober route.


Metal / Re: Doom metal
« on: April 12, 2012, 01:27:02 PM »
Didn't know that last bit, interesting. I find Funeral Doom to be the most enjoyable of all the Doom Metal's. In recent years I stumbled across this gem (or I think of it as one anyway)...

AHAB- "The Call of the Wretched Sea" : This is a concept band really, and a very cool one, which I think is a self-explanatory worship of the Melville work.


That's the entire album in one youtube video. I think you'll enjoy that if you don't own it already.

This album impressed me initially, but as time wore on, it simply became tiresome. The problem Ahab suffers is that like most other failed "doom metal", it meanders about without going anywhere, the structures are derivative and there are simply better bands (as enumerated in this thread).

I don't mind focus on tempo as a defining aspect of your aesthetic, but Ahab lacks any substance or movement to be worthwhile while in that tempo. It seems like they are too comfortable with their aesthetic to actually bother doing anything with it. It's really quite safe. The same goes for Mournful Congregation which seems promising at first, is also aesthetically pleasant, but has nothing in the way of real substance or spirit. Why listen to either when I can pop in Skepticism?

Interzone / Re: Why I culled the art thread
« on: April 12, 2012, 10:49:21 AM »
Things like this ruin a forum.

With such a thread, you're picking art not by what it is, but by who made it (members of a forum).

That throws quality out the window. Pick by quality, not social factors.

You also create a monster no one can regulate.

What do you do if someone posts something horrible?

You can be an asshole and say, "Wow, that's fucking autistic."

You can politely nod and ignore. This tacitly endorses it.

Or you can lie and say, "That's really.... in-ter-es-ting."

Better just to avoid it. Kill the thread. They sure are popular though.

So basically, the userbase here is not mature and impartial enough to offer sensible critique?

Interzone / Lower-IQ societies
« on: April 11, 2012, 07:57:40 AM »
The simple fact is that there are better and more plausible ways to achieve the same result.  Things we could start to lay the foundations for now.  The woodchipper plan is a pleasant fantasy designed to annoy any leftists that stumble across the site.

Fact: Zero population growth will happen and population will decrease.

How do you decrease the population?
-Small Families
-Stopping Immigration

Take your pick.

Interzone / Lower-IQ societies
« on: April 11, 2012, 07:18:19 AM »
My misgivings have more to do with both realizing the prole genocide and then seeing all the remaining >120's work as a cohesive unit. To be frankly honest, while it does pose challenges, it would be a far greater world. There is a correlation with intelligence and virtue, especially if culture is the restraint for selfishness/narcissism. I am going to give a resounding YES. Whatever issues come with a society of >120's are issues we want to have the opportunity to deal with.

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