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Metal / Re: Substep Infrabass - black/death metal influenced dubstep
« on: September 27, 2010, 01:51:34 PM »
Why do you want OUR opinions?

I'm listening to "BRUTAL BLUDGEONING". 
The beat is kinda tight, but I don't see how this is connected to Metal, or why it's on this forum at all.  It isn't brutal, or bludgeoning. 
It is a droning WOMP WOMP WOMP indeed. 
It has no direction, save for maybe an increase in layers. 

So, no: I don't think this can find a place in the metal scene.
And, no, I don't find this interesting being a metal fan.

Find a dubstep forum, and good luck.

Metal / Re: How did metalheads become such wimps?
« on: September 26, 2010, 08:33:29 AM »
Back to the OP...
When were metalheads not wimps? (besides Burzum, I know I know.  And Cannibal Corpse look pretty big.)  In the '80s and '90s, at least, metalheads were the skinny dudes with scraggly hair, dark clothes, and "tough" scowl. 

Since nu-metal and metalcore, I would say metalheads have become LESS wimps, as the culture was invaded by more jock/party/fighter types. 

Towards a clarity-in-sociology, I'd say that you guys are conflating a few different "metal" subcultures.  But they are different.  See how this grabs ya:

Indie Metal=Hipster Metal: ex-indie rockers who tacked on metal (Wolves in Throne Rooms, Liturgy, Sun O))), maybe Mastodon)
Metalcore: metal + hardcore, nowadays usually played by screamo rockers/Scene Kids (which is where you find the gorgeous haircuts).

These genres probably share a common influence in Botch, who had the horn-rim glasses and polyester pants. 

I know nu-metal comes into these lineages, just not where.

Metal / Re: Cleaning out my music collection....
« on: September 26, 2010, 03:34:38 AM »
I don't want to seem flippant, but some simple advice is: delete all.
(I'm assuming you didn't pay for much of it.)

I worry that metal-listeners (especially younger ones) fall into the bad habits of downloading any and all albums about which they've heard even minor praise. I understand the excitement and wonder behind that, but if metal is to be a robust culture, we will need some discipline in listening as music listeners, not as music consumers.

Why not find a few recommended classics on DLA, get those, and meditate deeply on them?  Make your interests deep before broad, so that you know songs by heart, right?

That being said, maybe keep the Averse Sefira, or just get "Advent Parallax".

Metal / Re: Functions of Gore
« on: September 24, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »
@ Wolfgang, Leperchaun, and Deadite: those all sound on-point. 

Also, upon further meditation, extremely gory lyrics seem to be a logical conclusion of Metal concepts.  (I mean 'logical' in the sense of inevitable/determined.)  I suppose that some artists would HAVE to be driven to dive deeper into pre-existing tropes of Heavy Metal.  That they are repulsive to me, and not at all liberative, may just be a matter of predilection.

A human living in a developed country is in absolutely unique habitat(compared to all other animals) as he virtually never sees dead individuals of his own species(except through pictures/video). When observing the matter from this perspective, death metal lyrics(at least those of Autopsy) seem very profound. This alienation is also a reason for the increase of popularity of vegetarianism(the denial that killing & eating animals is innate for humans).

That seems especially real.  A long time ago, I lived up in Nepal for 4 months, and already saw all sorts of bloodshed: corpses engulfed in flames at Pashupatinath; a sacrificial bull held down by 6 men while another man sawed into its throat, blood literally erupting a meter into the air; even down to my host 'cousin' holding a duck, slitting it's throat and taunting his nephew with that geyser of blood, later soaking the body in water to loosen the feathers, and ultimately dissecting it and cutting the heart open to show me its green interior.

I wonder if, in that kind of society, a mutilative Death Metal would be possible, to the degree that gore is casual, common, and thusly not very outlandish or brutal. 

In another direction, I saw somewhere that certain Death Metal heads must play it, to stop them from actually murdering people. 

Metal / Re: Functions of Gore
« on: August 31, 2010, 09:20:28 AM »

Except leftist performance art has a political agenda it is attempting to validate, diminishing its quality as art.

Okay, I'm with that, I see the difference.

Erosion, I'm surprised you assume I'm a troll.  I'm sincerely curious about this subject, and came here looking to toss about some ideas with people more into gore than I.  Shoulda known I'd be getting clowned by college boys or whatever.

Metal / Re: Functions of Gore
« on: August 31, 2010, 03:56:37 AM »
Hedonistic poetry mocks social taboos, and in essence mocks the idea of a universal standard. The fact that someone is horrified because you mock an idea, and does not merely have a physical reaction to the situation, that is what is being mocked.

So gory lyrics mock universals, and they mock a person's horror at the mocking of universals?

This sounds suspiciously like Leftist performance art.

To those of you who are deep into gore lyrics, have they led you to awakenings about taboos and morality?

I really want to get this.  I just don't get it, yet.

Metal / Re: Functions of Gore
« on: August 30, 2010, 10:16:02 AM »
Is it truly realistic?>>>violating an ass and drowning in oceans of diarrhea?
"Symphonies of Sickness" seems to mainly describe fucking cadavers, which is realistic if not common.

But I'll grant you that these are realistic.
Is mere realisticness a function of gore?
Do you--dear reader--enjoy gory lyrics for their realism?

Metal / Functions of Gore
« on: August 29, 2010, 08:38:56 PM »
Functions of Gore

Within Metal, how do gore-oriented lyrics function, both for the artist and the listener?

I'm curious because it just seems gross and degenerate.  From Infester "Braded into Palsy":

"Licking and taunting naked flesh,
Repulsive ebony skin.
Now destroy this bastard...
Sword to the neck...
Cast in blood.
... Fingering the feces from the anus...
Braded into palsy.
Tedious chopping... Tedious chopping.
Opening the stomach wall
Searching for cancerous sores
I love violating her ass
And drowning in oceans of diarrhea"

Is it a Nihilistic, Romantic revelry in total entropy?
Maybe this particular song symbolizes an overturning of all taboos: sex, interracial sex, murder, coprophilia, mutilation, maybe even a whiff of racism.
Is gore just SIIIIIIIIICK and bad-ass?

Slayer "Angel of Death" is about as far as I can go with the bodily invasions.

Metal / Re: Blackened Death Metal
« on: August 19, 2010, 07:55:21 PM »
Averse Sefira "Advent Parallax"

Metal / Re: Do you value content over appearence?
« on: August 15, 2010, 12:15:06 AM »
"...since what matters is the essence" is a dangerous forum path; this could certainly lead to "Was Wagner the first metalhead?"

Does appearance constitute content, partially?
And does appearance express content?
Viscerally, do we want to see Slayer with nice haircuts and khaki trousers?

Regarding good hip-hop: is it possible that good 1st grade writing could be made, that is at the same level as good 11th grade writing?

We can probably agree on the essence(s) of Metal>>>Romanticism, vir, power-worship, meditation on death/impermanence, beauty of horror, etc.

Hip-hop that takes street-life horror as it's subject may approach those.   MC Eiht, Scarface, Clipse, and KRS-One come to mind.  Yet these remain strictly personalized, logical narratives.

Musically, hip-hop will doubtfully ever deliver what I (we?) find good in Metal: HEAVINESS, long phrasal structures, delightfully shocking and intellectually stimulating riffs and techniques.  Hip-hop will not approach the cosmic, transpersonal, or post-human. 

Most gangsta rap is a better/more poetic expression of anger and inner-city rage than Pantera. 

Metal / Re: Social impact of heavy metal
« on: August 14, 2010, 11:40:50 PM »

This music, because it glorifies intolerance and hate, and promotes suicide, contradicts all of the community values that people of good will, regardless of faith, ideology, race, economic or social position, share. Simply put, this music hurts us as a people.

Heavy metal Contributes to teen suicide

"Dear sirs, my son was listening to Marilyn Manson's  Antichrist Superstar on his stereo
when he died..."

If you can't blame the family, at least don't call MM 'Heavy Metal'.

Metal / Re: Metal 2000-2010
« on: July 06, 2010, 08:55:28 AM »
Vasaeleth Crypt Born & Tethered To Ruin

A Vasaeleth review led me to Incantation (delightfully!).  Now I see that Vasaeleth is merely competent/bestial Incantation worship with a crappier snare drum.  This is doubtfully a classic.

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