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Metal / Is tape trading dead?
« on: November 30, 2006, 11:26:36 AM »
I saw a mention of a tape trader in another thread. It almost seems anachronistic to trade tapes in the days of easily available MP3s, but the advantage is that someone else is filtering through the crap to find the good stuff, and if you don't trade with morons, you might find something good this way. I don't even know how one would connect to the tape trading network, or if they've upgraded to Mp3s and CD-Rs now.

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Metal / Metal = Power
« on: November 30, 2006, 11:18:36 AM »
With all the debating we could do about what metal means, let's look at it critically as sound. It's a violent, powerful, uncentered sound. Anything can happen. When you listen to death metal or even heavy metal, you expect sudden riff changes (nature of power chord riffs as harmonically movable) and there's a constant bassy explosive distortion sound. Even Black Sabbath sounded like a war machine cut loose across the land compared to the (limp-wristed leftist hippie) music of the day.

I'd say rock is moralistic. It starts with a pleasant introduction, deepens into a droning riff or two, and operates around a clear tonal center with ambiguous pentatonic riffing that easily changes key without expressing much except rhythm. It's simpleton music.

Power is what metal conveys. Power is a death of morality. Power is a sense of life being important, like riding a wave or conquering an enemy, and inherently refutes the kind of moralistic crowd-pleasing pap that rock music is. I think that's why we listen to heavy metal and why we love it.

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Metal / Houston: Bruckner No 8
« on: November 27, 2006, 09:27:08 PM »
Houston Symphony: Hans Graf conducts Anton Bruckner

Any other Texanusians or Corruptors going to this? $25, three or four dates.

Found at this location

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Metal / Bands better than icons in a style
« on: November 18, 2006, 08:53:29 PM »
Sometimes, several bands work in a style... and one is recognized as the best, although it may not be so. I feel this is the case with Dissection. Sacramentum is clearly the more intense music, although the Somberlain was quite good, but no one has heard of Sacramentum relative to Dissection.

It bothers me.

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Metal / Images of Violence
« on: November 12, 2006, 03:43:32 PM »
JonZig-Vocals
Steven-Guitar/vocals
Mark-Bass
Dobber-Drums

http://www.myspace.com/imagesofviolence

Alot of people compare them to Napalm Death, and they sound a lot like "Utopia Banished" but more American death metal style with some odd chords like Deeds of Flesh.

No mention of the guy from Acerbus.

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Metal / Music versus Message
« on: November 04, 2006, 05:14:45 PM »
OK, so punkers tell us the "message" to the music is important and by this they mean the lyrics. But shouldn't the music itself be the message? I don't think you need to read Burzum interviews to figure out what he's on about, minus some specifics like his desire for worldwide race war. Morbid Angel sounds Satanic, alienated, otherworldly to me. What I've liked about metal versus punk or folk is that the music is the message. It's complete art (the good bands, at least). I can't think of any exceptions.

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Metal / Criticism of this Metal Site
« on: November 04, 2006, 05:07:11 PM »
I barked at Lightning Rider (you should change that, it sounds like a gay porno) for being too critical in other threads, but saw that for him to be "off-topic" we have to have a topic about this here.

So...

PROS
I like the writing.
Finds the real classics.
Ignores current metal (mostly)

CONS
Attracts pretentious gits, both for/against
Lots of missing albums by good bands
Web site is... dated (sorry)
Not enough formal study of metal, like at a University

I'm sure I missed some.

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Metal / DLA-like websites
« on: November 04, 2006, 03:19:49 PM »
Some guy on Corrupt was talking about literature and had this in his sigfile:

http://www.geocities.com/weltmacht_oder_niedergang/

It's a review site a lot like the Dark Legions Archive. If we collect these, will "they" link them?

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Metal / Intelligence and Metal
« on: November 04, 2006, 03:08:24 PM »
I know it's ridiculously unPC(*), or maybe just offensive to social norms, to mention this, but isn't it time we admitted that intelligence has an effect on metal?

If we ranked bands as good, better, best:

GOOD
Death
Possessed
Cannibal Corpse

BETTER
Deicide
Morbid Angel
Mayhem

BEST
Burzum
Immortal
Graveland

Can we see there's an intelligence difference between these artists, and there's a result in the music they make? The Cannibal Corpse guys aren't stupid, but like all things intelligence is a scale not a binary. Their music is OK but nothing you'll listen to for your whole life. The really transcendent shit comes from the brainiacs and the OK metal comes from smart guys who have a few good ideas.

Will I be arrested for saying this? lol

* Anywhere but here.

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Metal / Art and duality
« on: November 04, 2006, 02:57:17 PM »
In the world of books, there is a split between author-types. Some are of the "new journalism" school which suggests they should write about real events and social trends critically, while others are of the "poetic/romanticist" school and attempt to make beautiful works that inspire people.

Oddly, the poetic types are more geared toward "realism" which usually translated into a greater vividity of individual experience through its characters, but this usually ends up reading like an introspective soap opera. The new journalist types are more prone to symbolic cariacture, like "Confederacy of Dunces" and "Bonfire of the Vanities" and "American Psycho."

Underground music is the same way. Grindcore is its new journalism, but it has gotten away from thinking critically toward the world because it is so conformist. Grindcore people have gone lock-step over certain ideological assumptions. Death and black metal are more like the poetic side, but when they screw up it's by trying to be "dark" instead of "uplifting."

I think the best art is critical but in a philosophical way. It looks at our spirit, and gives us a poetic response to life. It lets us accept the bad, and desire more greatly the good, and leaves us seeing a balance but feeling more inclined to acting toward what the art sees as the good. This "good" is usually a poetic form of life.

All the best bands were like that, and there are few of them now. Is the greatest trend of all to stop thinkign flexibly and start relying on some assumption? Because these days, metal and grindcore are two sides of the same repetitive coin.

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