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Dylar, what is is beyond thought; a thought can be pointed out, but reality is the pointer - how can a knife cut itself? The mystical experience, the experience of that reality (of one's own reality), is not primarily a thought-state, though, of course, thought might arise; even so, it is known, at that point, that one is not the thinker (it is no longer "my thought"). Shiva sits upon Kailash in the deepest of meditations, being only the Self; there is no thought, no feeling, no sensation, only existence.
Nonsense. Mystical experiences, like any other thoughts, are ephemera conjured by the human mind, no more, no less. The distinction is whether one imposes conscious control of the process.
We are talking about two different things here.
What you say is true, up to the point where it is no longer true.
When I say 'no thought', that is exactly what I mean:
A state in which thought is utterly superfluous, and simply ceases to occur.
Indeed, as soon as a thought manifests, the no-thought state ceases, and the thinker returns to its accustomed state.
There is, for example, in the no-thought state, no hint of emotion, or identity; only one-ness with everything.
Thinking separates itself from everything else, in order to consider it.
Not-thinking removes that separation.
Ha. I had to repair the insane misspelling of that last 'separation' about nine times before it was right.
That sense of "oneness"? It's only in your head. It is, as we like to call it in the parlance of my generation, a thought.
The mystic experience isn't non-thought, it is thought in its least adulterated state, thought divorced from sensory input, thought untainted by discourse with others and their thoughts. The tools of the mystic—isolation, asceticism, meditation, trance states etc.—aren't tools for emptying the mind of thought (even if they are presented as such), they are tools for clearing the mind of impediments to thought and the obligation to consciously shape thought or herd it in a particular direction.
Political ideologies—like their religious counterparts—provide a mythic framework for A.) explaining why things aren't the way they ought to be and B.) how things can be made to be the way they ought to be. Childish, yes, but for a human being, who might reasonable expect 80 years of life in a universe where a billion years is chump change, a certain degree of perpetual childishness is to be expected, no?
Or, perhaps we need to bend the arc of our "current contemporary culture" away from its current path toward an ever more secure haven for passive, effeminate, organization-minded (as in "company man," not the capacity to provide organization) failboaters...
nor will requiring voters to show photo identification disenfranchise any substantial number of minorities.
You're wrong there. It definitely will, as minority groups tend to have higher rates of crime in the USA, and so have a higher chance of being prohibted from carrying common state issued ID's like drivers licenses or trade licenses. Of course, the standard issue regular "state ID" which just says one's name, DOB, and what state they're from in addition to personal characteristics can be obtained, but not many people have them or know about them to my knowledge.
But, that just highlights problems inherent to those respective minority groups, not these laws. Ultimately I agree that these laws are just a distraction from the real problems.
When you look at who actually shows up to vote in the first place, it's clear that laws like this don't really result in much of the way of actual vote suppression: the people who end up being impacted by ID requirements are people who wouldn't have turned out to vote in any event. Vote fraud and vote suppression are non-issues masquerading as significant.
“Trust us: when the Congressional Black Caucus tells you that a voter ID law will be detrimental to black empowerment — black political empowerment — we know what we are talking about and it is for real,” Butterfield continued, before contradicting himself (with respect to the alleged goals of the “right-wing conspiracy” trying to return to 1900. “What they want to do is not take away the right to vote, but if black voter participation can be diminished even by ten percent it will make that critical difference all across the country. President Obama won my state, in the last election, by 14,000 votes. Had we had a voter ID law in North Carolina he would not have won the state of NC and probably could not have won the presidency.”
(What leadership under a liberal democracy does with your time.)
It's a classic illustration of the ways in which our politicians love to address issues that don't matter to the exclusion of those that do. There's not enough vote fraud in the US to justify spending a second of legislative time on laws to prevent it, nor will requiring voters to show photo identification disenfranchise any substantial number of minorities. These are laws that aren't needed, but have no real negative impact, either. Which, I suppose, makes them perfect bones for contention: no one has to risk losing anything important..
Organisms are adapted to the specific environments in which they evolve. Even where they are "successful" upon introduction into another ecosystem, that very "success" can thoroughly destabilize and degrade the ecosystems into which they are introduced. It's not just—or even primarily—that they out-compete native species: the problem is the accretion of secondary effects that follows from the initial displacement of native species. A lot of ecosystems have fairly tight tolerances, so relatively small changes can disrupt equilibrium to a degree sufficient to induce systemic decline.
I don't understand the bias against Zionism. It's Jewish nationalism. That's worth supporting.Thats what kills me, if you hate Jews so much, why not help with their Zionist mission and help them get the hell out of Dodge? If Zionists had their way, you wouldn't have to deal with the Jews materialistic bullshit, and they wouldn't have to deal with European and American pogroms. It's win-win.
Well, unless you're a Palestinian Arab.
and anyone trying to pin these problems on other demographic groups is selling something.
The argument being advanced by the Golden Dawn is that closing Greece's borders to immigration will have a measurable economic impact and help alleviate the debt crisis, yet this addresses exactly none of the real problems Greece actually faces. This isn't a solution: it's soccer hooliganism masquerading as a political stance.
« on: May 03, 2012, 08:33:40 PM »
The brain is one of those things about which we know very little, and understand even less. As a result, I am always, at the very least, suspicious of grand sweeping claims about brain function. I am particularly suspicious when such speculation is couched in vague, imagistic terms that read like a personality sorter...or a horoscope.
The Golden Dawn, as of now at least, is undoubtedly one of the biggest embarrassments of the nation, along with nincompoop teenage/young adult Anarchists.
Moronic, meaningless violence and hooliganism, Illogical racism, Nazi sympathising, directionlessness. Despite what nonsense they might preach, they have no actual program, and they ponder only to sections of the block-headed lower classes, especially those with fetishes for flashy rallies, slogans and street fights. In essence they're just reactionary, and like the NSDAP, what prosperity they have achieved is solely due to the damaged economy.
You sell the Nazis short. They were politically successful in the 1930s largely because the NSDAP and the NSDAP alone had coherent and comprehensive solutions to the two most important problems facing Germany: massive economic dysfunction and disastrous strategic weakness in the face of the rising power of Stalinist Russia. That they wrapped it all in confidence-building spectacle and effective sloganeering is neither here nor there. They offered what modern far-right parties never seem to get around to: an actual program of policies designed to achieve something meaningful.
Dylar would have us believe it helps socio-economic stress to have increasing numbers of unproductive and counterproductive people feeding at the public trough. We're humanitarian like that.
Only around 7% of the Greek population is of non-Greek descent, and 1/3-1/2 of these are natives of other EU countries (i.e. as productive or more productive than Greeks themselves). Immigration just doesn't play a statistically significant role Greek life or the problems faced by Greek society. The issues Greece must overcome are homegrown, and anyone trying to pin these problems on other demographic groups is selling something.
Kicking the low class rabble, eternal pity cases and socio-economic parasites out of our lives:Quote“Black-clad Golden Dawn members have been storming across the campaign trail across Greece, stopping to chat at cafes and shops, handing out fliers promising security in crime-ridden neighborhoods — and vowing to kick out immigrants.”
Because that will solve the problems that Greeks have brought upon themselves....