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Metal / Re: Books and other literature
« on: July 02, 2006, 02:21:34 AM »Quote
"Growth of the Soil" is amazing -- the Norwegian Faulkner.
Hamsun is great.
707
Metal / Re: The newer generation
« on: June 28, 2006, 08:34:31 PM »Quote
. It may be, but remember that a bucket full of shit may also be art, but still is a bucket full of shit.
You might want to let Pelican and Neurosis know that, since they both seem to spend an awful lot of time polishing their turds.
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Metal / Re: The newer generation
« on: June 28, 2006, 05:38:12 PM »Quote
On the other how can Pelican can be compared with Havohej?? The first is band with real musicians, the other it's just a guy trying to impress others with blasphemy and extremely awful and poorly written music. How can anyone find Havohej serious? Just look at the cover of Dethrone the Son of God. It's hilarious.
How can Dream Theater be compared with Slayer?? The first is a band with real musicians, the other is just some guys trying to impess others with blasphemy and extremely awful and poorly written music. How can anyone find Slayer serious? Just look at the cover of Show No Mercy. It's hilarious.
709
Metal / Re: Sacramentum
« on: June 06, 2006, 02:13:04 PM »Quote
Yeah, and for both Dissection old full length albums too.
Apparently, the he only owned purple and blue pens.
710
Commerce / Re: Demilich Tourdates
« on: April 08, 2006, 01:00:32 AM »Quote
That would be really cool. Would you be flying into Houston, or Austin?
I'm actually interested in attending both shows, if there is indeed someone to carpool with. My girlfriend likes Averse Sefira, so we may both come. Drop me a PM so we can figure out how to work this.
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Commerce / Re: Demilich Tourdates
« on: April 07, 2006, 04:16:19 PM »
I'd certainly be interested...
712
Metal / Re: punk/hardcore
« on: March 17, 2006, 11:35:45 AM »Quote
Survey topics suck.
I think this site has gone farther than any other metal site to recognize punk hardcore, but that genre died about 1985.
What followed was imitators, much in the way that Black Witchery imitates Darkthrone and is 1/10 as good if even that.
Essential:
Black Flag - Damaged
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
the Exploited - Death Before Dishonour
Minor Threat - Complete Discography
I would add the following racist bands:
Bad Brains - I Against I
Skrewdriver - Voice of Britain
Any chance you might add a hardcore section to the DLA to cover some of these bands?
713
Metal / Re: Graveland
« on: March 03, 2006, 02:08:50 AM »
Thousand Swords is probably their most distinctive (and, I think, best) contribution to the genre. In many ways, it is an electrified Slavonic folk album composed in a narrative fashion (sort of the black metal equivalent to the debut from Darken's folk/ambient project Lord Wind). Easily one of the three or four best metal albums ever recorde. Carpathian Wolves and The Celtic Winter are also excellent, though they are a bit dependent on works by other artists (DarkThrone and Burzum) for my tastes.
714
Metal / Re: The history of metal's opposition to Christian
« on: February 02, 2006, 11:53:33 PM »
Revealing the internal contradictions of the Christian moral value system doesn't embrace those values, rather, it shows them to be meaningless.
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Metal / Re: The history of metal's opposition to Christian
« on: February 02, 2006, 09:01:44 PM »
An anti-Christian stance iis an implication of the underlying subtexts of the genre as a whole. Metal is inherently resistant to received or arbitrary value systems, which puts it in obvious opposition to Judeo-Christian absolutism (and thus to Judeo-Christianity itself).
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Metal / Re: The Future of Metal
« on: January 29, 2006, 04:21:38 PM »
I'm not sure metal has a future, nor even that it should. Are there possibilities for a way forward? Of course. At the same time, I think the accumulated weight of history and creative inertia are probably too much to overcome in any significant fashion. This is why I laugh at people who get indignant about Pink Frothy AIDS and Kayo Dot and similar crap; metal is dead, does it really matter who fucks the corpse?
717
Commerce / Re: New Celtic Frost Album-cover Artwork!
« on: January 29, 2006, 01:14:18 AM »
It looks like some sort of faux pop art painting of a post lobotomy David Bowie...
718
Metal / Re: How Metal Got Mainstreamed
« on: January 27, 2006, 05:59:57 PM »
A couple of thoughts:
1. His nearly exclusive focus on heavy and speed metal obscures the overall history the genre.
2. It seems to me that there's an explanation for this sort of thing built into the nature and structure of modern culture and cultual mediation. We have now had nearly 100 years of modern popular music, mediated primarily not through rare live shows in concert halls, but through radio and recording (and, more recently, television and the internet). The move from music as a concert driven experience to music delivered electronically has had profound structural effects on that nature of music, which in turn fudamentally alter what music gets made.
The most obvious effect has been the commodification of music. The ease with which music can be packaged, marketed and sold removed many of the entry barriers that in centuries past seperated the wheat from the chaff and prevented dilettantes, dabblers and dead weight from accessing music as a career option. The economics of the old system of mediation to cultural elites through a very limited number of prestigious live venues. When people are able to experience music as art only a few times a year (or maybe a few times a month, at most), there simply is no room for mediocrity (as there is, for instance, on a cd shelf). This ensured a consistent level of artistic excellence and provided an incentive for continued dedication and the maturation of talent that simply no longer exists in the electronic age.
Commodification replaced the artistic excellence with a new imperative: making as much product available to as many people at the highest possible profit margin. The consequences for quality are manifest, but there are other, less obvious results as well. Commodification and saturation placed new demands on the industry. Electronic mediation placed a premium on novelty and marketing; music was absorbed into the "Next Big Thing" cycle of the advertising world, and while there were far, far more windows of opportunity which artists might enter through, each window was also far, far more narrow than had been the case in previous eras. As a result, the other lasting legacy of the commodification of music has been the near complete absorption of music as a cultural expression by the wider culture of youth.
This music-as-youth-culture paradigm shift has implications for the failure of metal to escape the pop culture dungeon it formed in protest against. The reaction of youth (in any generation) to the world it inherits is predictable and well-understood: disillusionment, alienation, anger, revolt. All of these are conducive to the stirrings of artistic creativity. But their very nature sows the seeds of their (creative) demise. Anger is powerful, but untempered by any positive ideals and vision, it is profoundly brittle and completely unsustainable.
Speed metal is a classic study in what happens when the fire of anger goes out. Many artists simply disappear, others, disillusioned by the process, become what they hated and "sell out." Most of the rest take the path of the silent "sell out" and cynically pander themselves to the anger of their audience, descending into self-parody as they hang on to the ashes of their fame by turning their music into some sort of auto-catharsis for emotions they themselves no longer feel.
Even the truly transcendent artists, those with vision to accompany desire and ideals to go with anger, end up being consumed by the system. No matter how much they hate it, if they wish to expose their art to the world, they have to play at least loosely within the rules of the game. There is no time for patient development, for the slow mining of creativity. If you've got the lightning, you have to bottle it now or no one will ever know it existed. Beethoven's 9th was the culmination of a lifetime of artistic and personal growth. Hvis lyset tar oss was the culmination of 3 years of fevered work by a kid barely old enough to be out of college. Beethoven went triumphantly into the night, escorted by 10,000 admirers. Varg Vikernes went into prison exile after stabbing a former friend to death. Perhaps there is no better symbol of what we really ought to do with metal.
1. His nearly exclusive focus on heavy and speed metal obscures the overall history the genre.
2. It seems to me that there's an explanation for this sort of thing built into the nature and structure of modern culture and cultual mediation. We have now had nearly 100 years of modern popular music, mediated primarily not through rare live shows in concert halls, but through radio and recording (and, more recently, television and the internet). The move from music as a concert driven experience to music delivered electronically has had profound structural effects on that nature of music, which in turn fudamentally alter what music gets made.
The most obvious effect has been the commodification of music. The ease with which music can be packaged, marketed and sold removed many of the entry barriers that in centuries past seperated the wheat from the chaff and prevented dilettantes, dabblers and dead weight from accessing music as a career option. The economics of the old system of mediation to cultural elites through a very limited number of prestigious live venues. When people are able to experience music as art only a few times a year (or maybe a few times a month, at most), there simply is no room for mediocrity (as there is, for instance, on a cd shelf). This ensured a consistent level of artistic excellence and provided an incentive for continued dedication and the maturation of talent that simply no longer exists in the electronic age.
Commodification replaced the artistic excellence with a new imperative: making as much product available to as many people at the highest possible profit margin. The consequences for quality are manifest, but there are other, less obvious results as well. Commodification and saturation placed new demands on the industry. Electronic mediation placed a premium on novelty and marketing; music was absorbed into the "Next Big Thing" cycle of the advertising world, and while there were far, far more windows of opportunity which artists might enter through, each window was also far, far more narrow than had been the case in previous eras. As a result, the other lasting legacy of the commodification of music has been the near complete absorption of music as a cultural expression by the wider culture of youth.
This music-as-youth-culture paradigm shift has implications for the failure of metal to escape the pop culture dungeon it formed in protest against. The reaction of youth (in any generation) to the world it inherits is predictable and well-understood: disillusionment, alienation, anger, revolt. All of these are conducive to the stirrings of artistic creativity. But their very nature sows the seeds of their (creative) demise. Anger is powerful, but untempered by any positive ideals and vision, it is profoundly brittle and completely unsustainable.
Speed metal is a classic study in what happens when the fire of anger goes out. Many artists simply disappear, others, disillusioned by the process, become what they hated and "sell out." Most of the rest take the path of the silent "sell out" and cynically pander themselves to the anger of their audience, descending into self-parody as they hang on to the ashes of their fame by turning their music into some sort of auto-catharsis for emotions they themselves no longer feel.
Even the truly transcendent artists, those with vision to accompany desire and ideals to go with anger, end up being consumed by the system. No matter how much they hate it, if they wish to expose their art to the world, they have to play at least loosely within the rules of the game. There is no time for patient development, for the slow mining of creativity. If you've got the lightning, you have to bottle it now or no one will ever know it existed. Beethoven's 9th was the culmination of a lifetime of artistic and personal growth. Hvis lyset tar oss was the culmination of 3 years of fevered work by a kid barely old enough to be out of college. Beethoven went triumphantly into the night, escorted by 10,000 admirers. Varg Vikernes went into prison exile after stabbing a former friend to death. Perhaps there is no better symbol of what we really ought to do with metal.
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Metal / Re: How Metal Got Mainstreamed
« on: January 27, 2006, 03:10:08 PM »
Posturing aside, which parts of Hanneman's comments about speed metal were false in 1991?
720
Audiofile / Early / Ancient / Medieval / Folk Music
« on: January 27, 2006, 11:53:15 AM »
Savall, Jordi

Jordi Savall - the Medieval Fiddle (Rapidshare)
The ensemble Hesperion XXI, conducted by Jordi Savall, hereby present us with a compilation of medieval works having in common their method of composition, each of which relies on relentless modification and exposition of a very simple theme to create a reasonably fractalized structure perhaps similar to Demilich's 'clockwork' technique, but obviously in an ancient-sounding context. Improvisation and 'free' interpretation of the written score by Hesperion XXI results in some of the most elegant, beautiful, emotive and nostalgic points of view this plague-ridden modern world has to offer on medieval music.
Jordi Savall - the Medieval Fiddle (Rapidshare)
The ensemble Hesperion XXI, conducted by Jordi Savall, hereby present us with a compilation of medieval works having in common their method of composition, each of which relies on relentless modification and exposition of a very simple theme to create a reasonably fractalized structure perhaps similar to Demilich's 'clockwork' technique, but obviously in an ancient-sounding context. Improvisation and 'free' interpretation of the written score by Hesperion XXI results in some of the most elegant, beautiful, emotive and nostalgic points of view this plague-ridden modern world has to offer on medieval music.