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Metal / Re: Bitchin' and moanin'
« on: January 22, 2007, 06:15:55 PM »
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I think people have their stengths and weaknesses.  Have you ever heard of multiple intelligences?  Sure I think it is largely bullshit, but it still emphasizes that no one is really good at everything.  For instance, you could be considered 'worthless' at physics compared to your coworker.  Are you a good athlete?  A good musician?  Do you get good grades?  In all subjects?  Good SAT scores?  Can you pick up chicks easily?  Do you pay your milss on time?  Are you punctual?  Well dressed?  Well read?

Most people say 'society is collapsing' but I need more evidence.  It's a psychological thing to consider yourself at an important time in history.  This is why most people think that Jesus is coming back within their lifetime.

I would say that there isn't a lot of good metal in this time period.  Perhaps we have to let the test of time sort out the good from the bad.  This might be a product of the ideals of the current scene though.  Especially in the black metla scene, it is important to be unheard of (kvlt) so they limit their albums to 666 copies etc.  If no one can hear the latest cutting edge metal, how are great bands supposed to rise to the top?  In the end I think the solution is to actually 'chill out and enjoy the music'...how else are you supposed to find new artists!?  Then again I think we may all just be getting too old.


Well expressed.

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Metal / Re: Deicide
« on: January 11, 2007, 12:46:12 PM »
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As much as they have their ups and downs, the music they play in Stench of Redemption is a badass death metal album. Combining the brutal work of Jack owen and melodic santolla, the songs all are well done.


Santolla has some great guitarwork on this album, although the drumming is a bit of a disappointment, songs such as The Lords Sedition and Crucified For The Innocence are reasonably good.

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Metal / Re: Deicide
« on: January 11, 2007, 12:44:04 PM »
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I have always stirred clear of later Deicide because everytone has told me it's best to do so, but still I won't say anything bad about the later music until I hear it.

That being said, you have to be able to understand why someone would be upset by this.  It's not like he was in Venom where the lyrics of Satan were not serious.  Glen Benton actually claimed to be serious.  

Maybe believing in Satan was his course toward finding a real religion.  People like that need something to believe in rather than accept the world for what it is.  You'd think someone who sang of the horrors of Earth would no better though.


Why get married in a Church then? Then have a practicing Christian play lead in your band? It's pbvious that Glen is a pile of shit, some of his philosophy is mentally stimulating although nothing more.

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Metal / Re: Deicide
« on: January 11, 2007, 12:38:18 PM »
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Was I the only one who enjoyed Scars of the Crucifix based completely on music?
I do realise that the titles and lyrics were completely childish Christ-bashing.


The only Deicide i really enjoyed was the first album, and the latest one. Scars Of The Crucifix was not only childish, but ridicuously simplistic and single minded, much like modern day Linkin Park if you take it from a neutral pespective. Bashing what you don't like and living in "a world of your own".
However it is still the songwriting that is TERRIBLE about Deicide. The first album had more varied products with delicate odd timings to add some ambiguousness to the track, yet the entire verse one, verse two, chorus and verse again doesn't work for death metal.

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Metal / Re: Metal = Power
« on: January 07, 2007, 10:31:29 AM »
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Well, according to Nietzsche everything has will to power, including rocks. The difference is that some thigns know that they have it and can use it, whereas a rock for instance does not know that it has will to power.


Biologically? A rock could only contain potential energy which is randomly transferred to kinetic due to spontaneous forces. So infact, a rock knows nothing.

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Metal / Re: Why hardcore vocals fail:
« on: January 07, 2007, 10:28:13 AM »
Caphernaum'sfirst album, Reality Only Fantasized, brilliant concept album with myriad of theory principles acting as a foundation on which the vocals rest upon. Thier latest album, with that stupid Trivium vocalist, a waste of time in terms of vocaling and much less intellect that before.

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Metal / Re: Why do people like metal?
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:00:25 PM »
Good point and thats precisely what i have been trying to extract since i have been here. There philosophical tie that many claim exists is nothing but a waste of time, if you go to Iron Maiden or Metallica (who are Christians if i remember) and at the same time, responsible for modernization of Heavy Metal, you'll find that they see metal as expressing oneself through anger. In other words, such a topic can never be answered justly, personally, i listen to metal because of the dexterity involved and intricate nature of bands such as Nile...however i also listen to Jazz for that very same reason. Give me Burzum, i would literally laugh at the music played even though i acknowledge the impressively sophisticated mind of the composer (Varg).

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Interzone / Re: Chuck Schuldiner: The Pity Party Never Ends
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:55:59 AM »
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but that proves they don't believe in god and care little of the religion, anyone that doesn't look fondly upon something cannot be considered a friend of that something, and by anti-Christians i didn't mean explicitly, there are varying levels opposition and there ideals seem to move against the tide of Christian morality


I witness most countries now as not believing in God, truly, Idealism is the future and even though America is a Christian country...very few actually practice it, even in Europe now very few practice religion. However the most powerfull religion due to faith would be Islam...you cannot burn a mosque now, not because of fear from the government, but more or less fear of the muslims.

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Interzone / Re: Chuck Schuldiner: The Pity Party Never Ends
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:53:45 AM »
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no Nietzsche, that mustn't be the greatest thing in the world, i guess you could find his written work on the net somewhere, have no idea where to begin though

well i agree with you that it didn't begin as an extremely anti-Christian genre but even the morality (or lack of) of metal opposes Christian morals, so even in the beginning there was never going to be any love for the religion but black sabbath did use occult lyrics which naturaly suggest to some level a dislike for Christianity, also the (Norse) pagan movement in black metal was also an affront to Christianity, it was seen Satan was not the ultimate evil for Christians because he is a product of it and Odin was seen as a better figure to oppose him because he was not a product of it

i believe the genre began with mere hint of anti-Christian behavior but it was only at the time you said that the real affront to it began



Sabbath wore crosses in their photo shoots, the rest of the entire War Pigs scenery and "hate" was merely for shock value. This can be seen as before the name "Black Sabbath" they were titled"Earth", only to change their name later because they discovered another more popular band (at the time) called "Earth".
They didn't even approach Metal from a philosophical point of view as this site tries to postulate...it was merely a show and something new for the teenagers at the time.

http://download.yousendit.com/FE80121422B86D67
^^P. Shoot.


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Interzone / Re: Chuck Schuldiner: The Pity Party Never Ends
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:47:52 AM »
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Sure.  And before I do, let me assure you that I was serious.  I sprayed my monitor.  

Its not that I disagree and think he sucks.  What was funny is just how I knew a few retards in high school who raved on and on about his playing as though it had adopted a place in their brain that usually imagines women naked.

Murphy is a great guitar player.  You don't have to question if I'm at all familiar with his solos with any of his work.   An incredibly refined technique and playing style.  But to say the best?  Please.  

This is two small a room to decide who the best actually is.  I'll tell you that in *my* opinion, there are a lot of guitarists in extreme metal that are better than Murphy.  Also, I don't like his style.  I understand it.  I'm not impressed by his songwriting.  Honestly, I think of James Murphy as the local kid who did all the Guitar Center competitions and then joined a death metal band when it was a cool thing to do.  His solo albums, again in MY OPINION, were weak as hell.  

Look at someone like Toby Knapp.  That guy knows how to dumb down his playing abilities (and I mean his band DARKEN here).  The guy knows how to write a song.  

At the end of the day, there are a lot of idiots who can play well.  But how many of them write great songs?  As a matter of opinion...  I think Murphy left his mark with Obituary more than anything (including Disincarnate).  That mark was significant because of the songs already written for him to play over.  Not his playing abilities.


You just kept circling around the argument rather then actually give a decent reason as to ellaborate on why he isn't the most Technically orientated guitar player in Extreme Metal. Good music? That is pretty much a matter of taste, I uploaded a song from his most recent album to prove not only his superior technique, but more or less his good songwriting skills. You despise Murphy because he is somewhat popular and has affiliated himself with Chuck and completely tolerated his beliefs. In terms of technique, Murphy's sweep picking is pretty precise and not the usual sweeping pattern Kristian from Necrophagist uses(and most others), his alternate pikcing is flawless and his ability to incorporate a bit of melody makes it all better.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/NsgaJyxUbWx5TA%3D%3D

Anyways, tell me what you think of this track, Epoch.

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Metal / Re: Deicide
« on: January 02, 2007, 05:15:35 PM »
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Fuck deicide.... glen writes lyrics for shit


He was married in a Church and used to call himself a devil woshipper (pagan) and later claimed that no such thing existed...no shit...

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Metal / Re: Deicide
« on: January 02, 2007, 05:14:14 PM »
In reality, the Hoffman brothers credited themselves for the majority of the songwriting. Claiming that Glen would always prefer their style, although Steve wrote only few of the songs.
Either way, most of their stuff is too simple and without foundation, although Benton has serious philosophy, his terrible singing ruins it all.

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Metal / Re: Plato would have been a metalhead
« on: January 02, 2007, 05:02:59 PM »
mayhem-to-carnage,

I am sure that if you went and explained that to someone like Mike Torrao of Possessed, he wouldn't understand shit. I see what you are saying, and although i feel that too many people here follow the dogmatic rules of Vijay, i agree with the entire "metal & Nietzche" image...however i might say that Death Metal at it's earliest form with Seven Churches is actually regarded as a piece of shit album from the bandmembers themselves. Although that very same philosophy you speak about, realistic values held higher than something divine, and the eradication of religion especially the Judoe-Christian movement, are all very much prominent in later death metal which was influenced by bands such as Possessed and Venom.

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Interzone / Re: Chuck Schuldiner: The Pity Party Never Ends
« on: January 02, 2007, 04:46:37 PM »
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yes venom are idiots, they do use shock value and only that, and they didn't do anything motorhead didn't, in fact i hate venom

but metal isn't anti-religion, it tries to find the nature of reality and it perceives that Christianity is an illusion that only blinds you from what reality is.
Now go read Anti-Christ and human all to human by Nietzsche and come back and try to make your argument anew  


You failed to even answer my question properly, metal was never anti christian when Sabbath came out, Possessed ws the first real band to actually use somewhat anti-Christian lyrics. Although
i would greatly appreciate it how i could find ANYTHING by Nietzsche in a country dominated by Islamic bigot thinking. Yes, since Christianity is somewhat related to Islam, the so called "scholars" would never allow such a book within the Islamic world.

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Interzone / Re: Chuck Schuldiner: The Pity Party Never Ends
« on: December 31, 2006, 10:58:32 AM »
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(demonstrating once again Chuck's ability to scavenge from the idea scraps of others without actually being able to improve upon them).


Funny seeing as everyone became critical of Chuck only due to the fact that he converted to Christianity. You completely undermined all of Deaths' achievements through their music such as their creativity and experimentation...or the fact that Chuck wasn't just a whammy bar abuser or shred fanatic. If the members of his own projects, who are amongst the highest in the Heavy Metal echelon could tolerate it, then i am sure some fanbase criticial of everything should do as well, you don't have to completely agree with it (as I don't) but leave it up to the people to decide and not some intellects who probably could not play decent music themselves.

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