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Interzone / Re: The mystery deepens
« on: March 15, 2014, 09:10:26 AM »
At first I thought this whole thing, the disappearence and the botched search, was just third world incompetence.   Then China got involved and I wasn't so sure.  Now the United States Navy has come up with nothing.   This is starting to reek of a full on conspiracy.

Interzone / Re: Further ruminations
« on: March 14, 2014, 10:08:07 AM »
Hitler did rather well when he was cool and sane.
His downfall arose in direct proportion to his loss of self-control, his rage became his undoing.

When you put it that way, he sounds an awful lot like the protagonist in some ancient greek tragedy.

Interzone / Re: Further ruminations
« on: February 26, 2014, 11:08:11 AM »
Quote from: Zarathustra
OF ALL that is written, I love only what a person hath written with his blood. Write with blood, and thou wilt find that blood is spirit.

It is no easy task to understand unfamiliar blood; I hate the reading idlers.

He who knoweth the reader, doeth nothing more for the reader.  Another century of readers- and spirit itself will stink.

Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking.

Once spirit was God, then it became man, and now it even becometh populace.

He that writeth in blood and proverbs doth not want to be read, but learnt by heart.

In the mountains the shortest way is from peak to peak, but for that route thou must have long legs. Proverbs should be peaks, and those spoken to should be big and tall.

The atmosphere rare and pure, danger near and the spirit full of a joyful wickedness: thus are things well matched.

I want to have goblins about me, for I am courageous. The courage which scareth away ghosts, createth for itself goblins- it wanteth to laugh.

Interzone / Re: Further ruminations
« on: February 26, 2014, 08:27:31 AM »
From the about page:

It exists to spread two ideas: (a) that heavy metal is a form of art and not “entertainment” and (b) the origins of heavy metal are in the Romantic movement in art and literature, whose imagery and ideals it carries to this day.

Based on the quality of the content, it seems the site has done a great job of it's stated purpose.  The work speaks for itself.

However, the crux of the latest crisis to this site does not seem to concerned with the quality of its content.  It seems to be concerned with the quality of the audience it is reaching.

It has always been the exception, not the rule, that exceptional quality is recognized by the audience it deserves.  The popular trope with this sentiment is that great artists often die unrecognized.  The truth is that many great artist die and continue go unrecognized.

The contributors on deathmetal.org need to decide if the quality of the content or the quality of the audience has a greater bearing on them continuing to produce. If the work is not an end in itself, this site has been going about its purpose the entirely wrong way. 

Interzone / Re: What makes music catchy?
« on: February 23, 2014, 12:42:11 PM »
There was a good article on this site about why metal is so obsessed with riffs. It reminded me a lot of some of the arguments you were making.

In short, it comes down to being able to anticipate certain things in the music just as they happen.  You get a similar reward to solving a puzzle when you guess right.  My guess is that these are the most memorable parts of the music, simply because you associate it with that good feeling.

Interzone / Re: Gary Gygax review of Conan movie
« on: January 15, 2014, 05:25:35 PM »
"Conan Meets The Flower Children of Set"

I would watch this movie in a heartbeat.

Director Dino De Laurentiis

Usually, when you are criticizing something, it behooves you to get basic facts right.

Interzone / Re: Tolkien
« on: January 07, 2014, 04:28:33 PM »
Graveland's "White Hand's Power" is about Saruman going to war. 

Fenriz's Isengard side project's first recordings are mostly about Middle-Earth.

Interzone / Re: Is democracy failing?
« on: December 13, 2013, 08:15:26 AM »
I've always seen people who claim democracy is the "best" form of government as narrow minded.  Like all narrow-mindedness, its source is arrogance and inflated self worth.  For something as complex as human society and law is, there isn't any silver bullet solution that will work in every place at every time.  It is that sort of thinking that fuels the failures of governments in all 3rd world nations, including most of Africa.

Interzone / Re: Who/What is God?
« on: December 05, 2013, 08:23:40 AM »
To define God is a fruitless endeavor because it has had so many different meanings throughout history.  It's a loaded word that has been defined differently by every religion and sect in the world. Even to this day, if you ask the average joe what God means to them, you will still get "a bearded guy in the sky who watches over us".

Equivocating God to nature/reality/reason seems like a cop out to please others by appealing to this vague term.  Call a spade a spade. Different definitions for the same term are the fountainhead of all futile arguments.

Metal / Re: Most metal albums are too long...
« on: December 03, 2013, 05:47:55 PM »
I've agreed with this for a while.  I tend to like EPs over most of a band's output for this reason.  Decide's first 3 albums are a good standard for most metal albums.  If a metal album is over 30 minutes, their is usually 10 minutes of filler in it.

Interzone / Re: The engine of history
« on: November 20, 2013, 08:43:17 AM »
I try to look at it from a pragmatic viewpoint.  Have people changed in the last 20,000?  If you took a man from the end of last ice age and put him in modern society, I think he'd eventually become just like everyone else.

Democracy, capitalism, fascism, and communism have all existed before throughout human history, in a different time and  place with different names. Empires rise and empires fall for the same reasons they always have whether it bet ancient egypt, rome, khmer, or the united states. People still gain happiness from the same basic elements of accomplishment, family, and community.

What has changed is how man survives, his daily livelihood.  Before complex societies arose, humanity spent almost all of its effort on survival.  It has gradually been getting easier to survive and thrive since the first domestication of plants and animals. 

Today, it has gotten to the point where in most countries can support vast numbers of people who do nothing for their own survival.  The effort required for survival is essentially approaching to the point where nothing is required.  The difference between our current lifestyle and our hunter-gather ancestors is painfully obvious.

Technology can essentially be described as accumulated knowledge of humanity for adapting to the environment for survival.  Policy and philosophy can be as part described as part of that but they tend to be more circular in nature. The implications of technology are wider reaching than any particular mode of thought or advancement gain from them.

Metal / Re: Jimmy Page says Led Zeppelin isn’t a heavy metal band
« on: November 16, 2013, 03:22:06 PM »
That quote sounds about right.  It's interesting to think of Chicago blues as proto-proto-metal.

Interzone / Re: The engine of history
« on: November 14, 2013, 08:11:03 AM »
The primary mover for all societal change has always been technology.  If you want to see a stable society, just look to the ones who have had minimal influence from technological advance.

Metal / Re: ABSU Announces Continuation Of North American Tour
« on: November 13, 2013, 04:52:48 PM »
I caught them last weekend and it was a worthwhile show.  Despite the iffy sound the venue gave them, the setlist was top notch.

Interzone / Re: Logic. What is it, anyway?
« on: November 05, 2013, 06:03:07 PM »
It's also an important to know that distinction whenever you get in an argument.  The only purely a priori arguments you will ever encounter will be in a logic class, and they are about as interesting as a primitive math problem. It is the reason why no one ever really "wins" an argument and all politics is an echo chamber.

Everyone makes assumptions based on experiences in their life.  If two people have radically different experiences, there isn't any basis for a meaningful conclusion.

This is how two intelligent people can come to diametrically opposed conclusions based on the same problem.  One can look at violence in society and decide all guns should be banned and another can look at it and decide guns should be more easily available. "There are no facts, only interpretations."

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