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Metal / Re: Tangerine Dream
« on: February 27, 2015, 02:14:11 PM »
Everything before and up to Phaedra is experimental essentially, but still quite enjoyable and rewarding on the whole. Electronic Meditation is a bit messy and doesn't really grab me. Alpha Centauri was a huge step forward, way more refined in terms of technical innovations and music structure. It's probably their most unique offering and there are some really special moments in there. Zeit on the other hand is a fantastic drone/ambient album, and thus maintains a fairly narrow spectrum of interest among potential listeners. For some reason, I could never remember Atem...

For live stuff seek out the recording in Berlin Deutschlandhalle 1973, Reims Cathedral 1974 and Soundmill Navigator live at the Philharmonics 1976. All are great, reveal many secrets and would have passed for albums in their own right had hi-fidelity portable recording equipment been as available as it is today.

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Metal / Would help like-minds sell out but am flat broke unfortunately
« on: February 27, 2015, 01:45:33 PM »
It's often the case, but I honesty haven't much desire to explore beyond a certain point in a band's discography, especially once they reach the point of boredom with having achieved what they set out to do (and hence the inevitable shift of gears). Still, what was good shall always be good in a way, even if only at that time and in that particular headspace within which it was encountered. There was a connection and so be it; I gain more from the memories of memories than when having to repeat an experience or be led in a direction contrary to my own. To be honest, I might never even have given any of my all-time favourites another listen after a certain point, despite knowing they where top notch or meant a lot to me etc. Basically, just move on and keep wandering the land. Completely selfish by default.

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Metal / Re: Tangerine Dream
« on: February 27, 2015, 01:10:23 PM »
I tend not to like the prog-y direction as much as I do the earlier cosmic atmospheric ambient sound. But as you say, from around Phaedra and onwards to Stratosfear is probably the zenith. Nevertheless those albums falling either side of a given high-point are still good or at least interesting. And any live bootlegs from the early to mid 70s are better still!

 

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Metal / Re: Tangerine Dream
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:45:18 AM »
I suppose instruments of melody can take on a percussive effect at times just like percussive instruments can be tuned a certain way to create certain pitches (depending on a given composition, this could at times lend itself to melody).

Of course when it comes to electronic music this is even more the case, as the medium itself is all about manipulating what sounds real, and hence being better suited to 'otherworldly' type music than the replication of acoustic sound. But really, it all depends.

As for Stratosphere, well it's got a fair bit more of that murky, billowy, cosmic atmosphere stripped away than previous albums. I do still like it (as I remember) but haven't visited in the longest of times. Yes, looping and sequences became more pronounced, conveying the ever-familiar effect of audible momentum/movement while at other times suddenly giving rise to expansive senses of distance (which could further give rise to one's foot reaching at non-existent brake-pedals). Cover design and artwork is among some of the most creative I have seen. While to it's detriment, synths started taking on that cheesy proto-80s aesthetic a bit.

I suppose, on the whole it could be said that it's the obvious point at which they changed directions (most will say for the worst) while still retaining enough artistic integrity for it to be a good album.

(insert two cent coin)

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Metal / Re: Percussion
« on: February 27, 2015, 05:42:02 AM »
Definitely one of my favourite drum performances.

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Metal / Re: Tangerine Dream
« on: February 25, 2015, 10:42:43 AM »
I dare say, you are not wrong Spinal! From around the point of creating Phaedra and onwards for a few albums they achieved a synergy of these two directions i.e. semi-narrative type structure and droning obscure atmospheric sound-textures such as can be found on an album like Zeit.

But whereas in metal riffing this takes the form of a jigsaw puzzle, Tangerine Dream employ their narrative moreso like a collage or painting in the style of impressionism i.e. somewhat still abstracted by atmosphere. And the moments of intensity are indeed there for those whom develop the perceptual ear (perhaps more readily identifiable to listeners of black metal than death metal, again because of the emphasis on manipulating atmosphere).

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Metal / Re: Tangerine Dream
« on: January 30, 2015, 09:01:33 AM »
A very interesting opinion indeed.

Actually it would seem that ambient often does lack the type of forcefulness the average metal-listener seeks, and likewise metal lacks the subtle textural element found in ambient electronic. Where their territories cross over if at all is in the atmospheres hinted at through both on a level beyond common perception. May it become known to both in time.

And may Herr Froese rest peacefully in Valhalla as the visionary and synth-god that he undoubtedly was!

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Metal / Re: Ambient
« on: January 12, 2015, 11:26:09 PM »
The ultimate ambient musik is just some guy from a failed civilization wandering through the woods humming melodies to himself; trying to figure it all out, but often-times just too blissed out (to try and figure it all out).

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Metal / Re: Band logos
« on: January 11, 2015, 01:56:11 AM »
The Summoning logo originates in the simplest of ideas and results in that ever-familiar crest of honour stamped upon their noble offerings (to the likes of which only a snare drum the size of existence itself could do justice).

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Metal / Post metal 2015
« on: January 11, 2015, 01:33:37 AM »
A friend of mine has gone so far past metal that he can barely even listen to it anymore. It's become more so about where it's taken him than whatever youth culture it started with. In fact only around 15% or so of what he listens to could even be called 'metal' anyway and perhaps in his shallow mind only that which retains a certain 'spirit' could ever really qualify for such a definition. Add to that, that he simply doesn't listen to much music anymore full stop anyway. But because the entire experience of living can be made light of in such a similarly beautiful way, there is no loss. When he walks in the woods, that is metal, when he tries to interpret the forms and movements of clouds, that is metal, when turmoil is crushed in the human heart, even that is metal. And when he gets excited, he could probably kill most of you with one punch.

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Metal / Re: Ancient Sumerian Electric Tremolo black death Technique
« on: January 11, 2015, 01:17:11 AM »
Where inspiration comes from is a great fascination of mine. Quorthon it is said to have listened only to Wagner at one point in his musical career. While Vikernes cited Tchaikovsky, The Cure and Future Sound of London as influences on later works (go figure?).But your idea sure is curious and I'ld be even curiouser to see where it takes you in the end ... .. .

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Metal / Re: Ambient
« on: January 03, 2015, 10:07:50 AM »
Arthur Dent And Deeper Than Space ‎ Drift
Swri Shamaani - Mysteerien Maailma
Troum - Seeing Ear Gods
Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
Tholen - Sternklang

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Metal / Re: Ambient
« on: December 11, 2014, 05:31:53 AM »
Top notch  d e e p  ambient:
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Coil - Time Machines
Bill Laswell - Outer Dark
Biosphere - Substrata
Ionosphere - Angular Momentum
Alpha Wave Movement - Drifted into Deeper Lands
Steve Roach - Midnight Moon
Maeror Tri - Meditamentum
Aural Holograms - Volume One
Zoviet France - Mohnomishe
Dilate -Cyclos



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Metal / Re: Best of 2014
« on: December 11, 2014, 05:10:23 AM »
No one said Sammath - Godless Arrogance yet ??

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