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Interzone / Re: Subjects in death metal lyrics
« on: November 02, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »

There seems to be somewhat of a push to de-emphasis lyrics, vocals, album concepts, cover artwork, production etc as some sort of non-essential aesthetic flourish, especially in the newer 'traditional' bands, but I see this as a mistake. Everything from music as notes to how it is presented is going to have an effect on the audience (whether they realize it or not). It is a lost opportunity not to make the most of that.

While I get where you are coming from (music should be the first and foremost concern of musicians), I do think this element of literature in non-instrumental metal goes a long way to increase the quality of the product as a whole.

I can present two examples. Deicide's Legion has truly amazing music.  It is a high mark on Death Metal, and it is not about the level of brutality alone, this by itself is nonsense.  It is the songwriting.  Yet the lyrics are tiring, and repetitive, in a way.  I dig the whole anti-God posture from an atheist (I am a stout atheist myself) point of view.  But the lyrics are just attack God attack God and sometimes almost touches on insults. I for one have no respect towards vulgarity and insults in lyrics.  Fortunately they did not cross this line.  Because I would have really contrasting feelings regarding them, feeling so compelled by the music and so disgusted by the lyrics.  I think the fact that they do not cross into the utterly vulgar has to do with the music being good too.  But that's just a wild guess.

At the Gates' trilogy "The Break of Autumn", "Non-divine" and "Primal Breadth" are songs that captured me because of the melodic work in counterpoint and how the songs developed.  When I started to catch glimpses of the lyrics in the screams of Tompa, I decided to go read the lyrics completely and they are both aesthetically beautiful and philosophically meaningful.  This increased my liking of them by at least 50% (in a manner of speaking, haha... it is hard to describe the feeling).

I would agree that good music with poor lyrics will generally work better than poor music with good lyrics, but to be honest I can't really think of a great album that has terrible lyrics. Could it be that the various elements which make up the complete album are in fact not so easily separable? Even at the sub-conscious level of trusting a certain producer/engineer to bring out a certain sound, or a friend to provide cover artwork etc.

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Interzone / Re: Work.
« on: November 02, 2013, 11:29:51 PM »
You'll have to forgive my rudeness. The truth is I tried to juggle an infinite amount of balls, hence, now being back at square one. I guess that's called learning something the hard way. Admittedly it's quite a relief.

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Interzone / Re: Death Cafes
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:31:45 AM »
So in conclusion, while others almost seem hard-wired for self-destruction after successive near-death experiences, don't confuse them with me. I am just a curious cat.

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Interzone / Re: What's a major label?
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:28:11 AM »
Do you think the music industry (for lack of a more hellish term) is in a better position now than it way say 10 years ago? Considering the effect of file sharing, the easy availability of anything, the multitude of clone bands, niche splinter-genres and so on and so forth.

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Interzone / Re: Work.
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:18:23 AM »
One thing a day, that's all I aim for these days.

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Interzone / Re: Death Cafes
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:14:45 AM »
Suffice to say my 5-HT receptors caught fire, or so it would seem. Actually, I don't really know how near to death "near-death" actually is, but I know it's as near as I care to find out for the time (which might not be very near at all). My real problem is that I'm too curious, but also very indecisive, can you think of a worse combination? Damned if I can. But then again that's exactly my problem !

 ???


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Interzone / Re: Subjects in death metal lyrics
« on: October 31, 2013, 06:49:38 AM »
Good thread!  One development in metal lyrics that I find interesting is the push towards an almost theological approach in lyrics of bands like Deathspell Omega and similar acts.  Unfortunately their execution (lyrically and musically) is quite poor.  I would hope that future groups can take this idea and improve on it.  One possible example is SVEST, whose album Urfaust is quite brilliant, although I haven't heard their other work.

This may seem like a strange thing to say but I think that finding suitable subject matter for lyrics goes a long way towards creating quality metal.  Once you have found the concepts which inspire you the music comes quite easily in my experience.

There seems to be somewhat of a push to de-emphasis lyrics, vocals, album concepts, cover artwork, production etc as some sort of non-essential aesthetic flourish, especially in the newer 'traditional' bands, but I see this as a mistake. Everything from music as notes to how it is presented is going to have an effect on the audience (whether they realize it or not). It is a lost opportunity not to make the most of that.

As for a theological approach to lyrics, my favourite concept would be based around the three marks of existence of Buddhist doctrine, this would completely blow any other death-metal lyrics out of the water. But I'm terrible at writing and I also worry that other elements of the album might be outweighed by the overly intense lyrical concepts. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would take some very careful treatment.

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Metal / Ildjarn/Hate Forest - Those Once Mighty Fallen
« on: October 31, 2013, 06:12:49 AM »
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Info : From the cold blackened graves their shadows rise.... Osmose Productions releases unexpected ILDJARN / HATE FOREST split CD/LP, called "Those Once Mighty Fallen". Both dead bands are presented with their lost and forgotten recordings, accidentally found not so long ago.
ILDJARN's songs were created in the dark year of 1994 and HATE FOREST's- during cold winter nights of 2000-2001.
Now, carefully re-mixed and re-mastered this audio- terror is available first time. A real epitaph to sincere, true black metal. SPECIAL CASEWRAPPED CD EDITION for the first run !

http://www.osmoseproductions.com/item/2/94903-110402-1101-1-0/116229308/ildjarn-hate-forest-those-once-mighty-fallen.html

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Interzone / Re: Death Cafes
« on: October 24, 2013, 11:29:56 AM »
What a strange idea, to "raise awareness of life" by raising awareness of death.
Paradoxical, isn't it?
Still, there's nothing like visiting death, to give heightened meaning to life.
And if you can't bring yourself to visit it, then talking about it is probably the next best thing.

I sort-of want to ridicule the whole idea, but as ideas go, it isn't such a bad one.

Ironically, I came as close as I ever plan on getting to it recently.

Fortunately or unfortunately it wasn't as glorious as all my death-metal CDs might have led me to believe.

More like having your head pushed against some concrete by an invisible force that mockingly asks "enough?"

Of course I totally chickened out. "Enough, Jesus Christ, enough!"

Ok, back to my death/life-metal CDs

Or whatever.

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Interzone / Re: Multivitamins
« on: October 21, 2013, 01:22:09 AM »

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Metal / Re: Old School Thrash/Death/Black
« on: October 21, 2013, 01:10:21 AM »
Just discovered this old band. They sound honest. So far so good.

Holocausto - Campo De Exterminio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_SSIp5XSqE

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Interzone / Re: Life is not a vacation.
« on: October 20, 2013, 01:11:08 AM »
I agree with this. One of my greatest fears is thinking that the last thought that might push itself into my brain at the moment of death is "oh god, I fucked it all up". I need to remember to do everything I can to make that not the case.

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Interzone / Re: What's a major label?
« on: October 20, 2013, 01:04:44 AM »
To what extent are anti-piracy laws still enforced? I can't imagine it would be an issue with CDs anymore. Especially the classics which are often out of print. And I'm guessing the small portion of worthwhile releases coming out in recent years is easily enough to warrant purchasing a hard copy for most people.

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Metal / Re: Making metal socially acceptable
« on: October 20, 2013, 12:53:10 AM »
They are possibly the most embarrassing sell-out band ever. 

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