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Interzone / Re: Offering free metal logo design
« on: November 03, 2013, 06:07:33 PM »
I'm having a lot of fun doing symmetrical logos (like Obituary, Mayhem, Emperor) but will gladly do more "old-school"-looking designs in the vein of Suffocation, Death, Slayer etc.

I always found the Deicide logo interesting as it is based on old-school design but becomes symmetrical with the doubling up of letters, the first and last 3 letters being the same with the odd one out in the centre.

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Metal / Re: Goatcraft review on Invisible Hipstoranges
« on: November 03, 2013, 03:52:16 PM »
Goatcraft material is fucking garbage. Hopefully he devotes some time to actually writing music rather than recording his keyboard noodling in audacity with acoustic effects. Until then, this is sub par even when compared to any university piano major bullshitting "dark music".

That's a harsh criticism. Surely you realize the strength of this music isn't in it's academic pursuit but in the spontaneity and intensity of the overall concept. Anyway, at least you're one of the few that can get past image. Everyone else obsesses over it.

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Metal / Re: Industrial/EBM
« on: November 03, 2013, 03:40:04 PM »
Ice Ages is actually one of the better industrial/darkwave acts I've come across. The songs have a really well thought out structure and the albums are good in their entirety, other industrial can get a bit stale after a few tracks. The best Ice Ages album is This Killing Emptiness. But hopefully there will be a new album soon.

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Interzone / Re: what type of god would you be?
« on: November 03, 2013, 03:31:10 PM »
One man's Rodan is another man's Godzilla.

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Interzone / Re: Is Reality synonymous with Nature?
« on: November 03, 2013, 03:15:55 PM »
The thing is, one man's reality is often another man's non-reality. Perhaps one is more functional than the other or perhaps not. Perhaps it depends on the context within which they see their reality. Nature allows for and gives rise to infinite possibilities including all possible ways in which it can be seen. Or perhaps that's just the way I see it.

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Metal / Re: Industrial/EBM
« on: November 02, 2013, 04:45:02 PM »
Well if you know Godflesh you probably needn't bother with the rest, though some of them are pretty cool if the mood permits it. Then again I don't know if Godflesh would even pass as 'industrial', more like 'ambient industrial doom metal' or something like that.

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Metal / Re: Immortal's "Pure Holocaust" is 20 years old today
« on: November 02, 2013, 04:42:22 PM »
The birth of Holocaust Metal!

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Interzone / Re: Subjects in death metal lyrics
« on: November 02, 2013, 04:38:08 PM »

There seems to be somewhat of a push to de-emphasis lyrics, vocals, album concepts, cover artwork, production etc as some sort of non-essential aesthetic flourish, especially in the newer 'traditional' bands, but I see this as a mistake. Everything from music as notes to how it is presented is going to have an effect on the audience (whether they realize it or not). It is a lost opportunity not to make the most of that.

While I get where you are coming from (music should be the first and foremost concern of musicians), I do think this element of literature in non-instrumental metal goes a long way to increase the quality of the product as a whole.

I can present two examples. Deicide's Legion has truly amazing music.  It is a high mark on Death Metal, and it is not about the level of brutality alone, this by itself is nonsense.  It is the songwriting.  Yet the lyrics are tiring, and repetitive, in a way.  I dig the whole anti-God posture from an atheist (I am a stout atheist myself) point of view.  But the lyrics are just attack God attack God and sometimes almost touches on insults. I for one have no respect towards vulgarity and insults in lyrics.  Fortunately they did not cross this line.  Because I would have really contrasting feelings regarding them, feeling so compelled by the music and so disgusted by the lyrics.  I think the fact that they do not cross into the utterly vulgar has to do with the music being good too.  But that's just a wild guess.

At the Gates' trilogy "The Break of Autumn", "Non-divine" and "Primal Breadth" are songs that captured me because of the melodic work in counterpoint and how the songs developed.  When I started to catch glimpses of the lyrics in the screams of Tompa, I decided to go read the lyrics completely and they are both aesthetically beautiful and philosophically meaningful.  This increased my liking of them by at least 50% (in a manner of speaking, haha... it is hard to describe the feeling).

I would agree that good music with poor lyrics will generally work better than poor music with good lyrics, but to be honest I can't really think of a great album that has terrible lyrics. Could it be that the various elements which make up the complete album are in fact not so easily separable? Even at the sub-conscious level of trusting a certain producer/engineer to bring out a certain sound, or a friend to provide cover artwork etc.

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Interzone / Re: Work.
« on: November 02, 2013, 04:29:51 PM »
You'll have to forgive my rudeness. The truth is I tried to juggle an infinite amount of balls, hence, now being back at square one. I guess that's called learning something the hard way. Admittedly it's quite a relief.

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Interzone / Re: Death Cafes
« on: October 31, 2013, 12:31:45 AM »
So in conclusion, while others almost seem hard-wired for self-destruction after successive near-death experiences, don't confuse them with me. I am just a curious cat.

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Interzone / Re: What's a major label?
« on: October 31, 2013, 12:28:11 AM »
Do you think the music industry (for lack of a more hellish term) is in a better position now than it way say 10 years ago? Considering the effect of file sharing, the easy availability of anything, the multitude of clone bands, niche splinter-genres and so on and so forth.

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Interzone / Re: Work.
« on: October 31, 2013, 12:18:23 AM »
One thing a day, that's all I aim for these days.

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Interzone / Re: Death Cafes
« on: October 31, 2013, 12:14:45 AM »
Suffice to say my 5-HT receptors caught fire, or so it would seem. Actually, I don't really know how near to death "near-death" actually is, but I know it's as near as I care to find out for the time (which might not be very near at all). My real problem is that I'm too curious, but also very indecisive, can you think of a worse combination? Damned if I can. But then again that's exactly my problem !

 ???


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Interzone / Re: Subjects in death metal lyrics
« on: October 30, 2013, 11:49:38 PM »
Good thread!  One development in metal lyrics that I find interesting is the push towards an almost theological approach in lyrics of bands like Deathspell Omega and similar acts.  Unfortunately their execution (lyrically and musically) is quite poor.  I would hope that future groups can take this idea and improve on it.  One possible example is SVEST, whose album Urfaust is quite brilliant, although I haven't heard their other work.

This may seem like a strange thing to say but I think that finding suitable subject matter for lyrics goes a long way towards creating quality metal.  Once you have found the concepts which inspire you the music comes quite easily in my experience.

There seems to be somewhat of a push to de-emphasis lyrics, vocals, album concepts, cover artwork, production etc as some sort of non-essential aesthetic flourish, especially in the newer 'traditional' bands, but I see this as a mistake. Everything from music as notes to how it is presented is going to have an effect on the audience (whether they realize it or not). It is a lost opportunity not to make the most of that.

As for a theological approach to lyrics, my favourite concept would be based around the three marks of existence of Buddhist doctrine, this would completely blow any other death-metal lyrics out of the water. But I'm terrible at writing and I also worry that other elements of the album might be outweighed by the overly intense lyrical concepts. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would take some very careful treatment.

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