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Metal / Ambient
« on: November 21, 2014, 12:54:51 AM »

A guide to the various sub-genres within the ambient music genre.

i    Genesis
ii   Expansion
iii  Decay
iv  Collapse

The complete ambient cycle from start to finish (if indeed starting and finishing can even apply to such a cycle).
An energy rise and subsequent energy collapse mirrored by the component parts of this structure with it's movements.

i    Expansion
ii   Decay
iii  Collapse
iv  Aftermath

The formative patterns are in full swing from the onset, there is a final movement often providing a useful contrast from those sections which structurally pervade it but often less so in the way of reflection or contemplation.

i    Decay
ii   Collapse
iii  Aftermath
iv  Genesis

Endtimes structure otherwise known as a cynical or pessimistic type view point for the cycle which displays deconstruction through abstraction. The outer last movement representing a glimmer of 'hope'.

i   Collapse
ii  Aftermath
iii Genesis
iv Expansion

And by now you should know what comes after expansion :(

How many million more ways could there be to tell a story, and a for each of those ways, how many million more variations and entry points into a given cycle (or set of cycles).

There probably needs to be more than a handful of metal releases (as album structure) to which this idea could apply in order for it to have any credibility. But for now, let it stand as an off the bat idea, which may or may not be interesting, an idea that I put forth to you!

Metal / Band logos
« on: October 29, 2014, 12:36:14 PM »

Saw this while out and about the other day and thought it resembled the Demilich logo or something. I love it when stuff like that just springs out at you. If I think back to the time when I first got into underground metal, I remember this as seeming like a part of metal tradition i.e. there's always got to be the unreadable logo that resembles some man-made or inorganic form, neatly tucked away in the right or left hand corner depending on the overall cover design.

Of course a lot of the appeal is going to in some way depend on how well the aesthetic elements fit in with the music, but it might also be the case that aesthetic acts as a vector for a given meaning based on how moving the music is on the whole.

Some favourites of mine have been Summoning, Beherit and Darkthrone I guess. You see the logo and then it just springs out and hits you. You know it's the mark of quality!

Audiofile / Mortal Constraint
« on: September 08, 2014, 12:48:24 PM »
One of the more solid realeses from the the early dark electro-industrial german scene.
May appeal to fans of Summoning and related project Ice Ages for which it was a direct influence.

Mortal Constraint - The Legend of Deformation (1992, Mega)

Audiofile / Pitchshifter
« on: August 11, 2014, 09:55:48 AM »
What's the next best Godflesh album after Streetcleaner?
It's called Industrial and it's by Pitchshifter.

Pitchshifter - Industrial (1991, Mega)

Audiofile / Nemesis
« on: July 22, 2014, 08:04:47 AM »
Finnish veterans of trippy, light-hearted ambient electronica with influences from the Berlin school kosmische musik and modern 90s techno/trance. This particular album also happens to feature Beherit frontman, Nuclear Holocausto Vengeance on the mixing desk.

Nemesis - Sky Archeology (1999, Mega)

Metal / Re: Profanatica - Progenitors of the Omni-Riff
« on: June 28, 2014, 06:41:32 PM »
Actually their latest is finally growing on me  ???

However it is interesting you mention about it being music that is to be felt, as this is something I would easily apply to earlier material whereas the more recent offerings have this kind of avant-garde 'indirectness' to them (and that probably applies equally to Beherit and Demoncy though I think they pulled it off better).

Metal / Re: Eucharist
« on: June 28, 2014, 06:30:27 PM »
The word refined can refer to "developed or improved so as to be precise or subtle", but the definition I was going for was "elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste". Going by the latter definition, I would say Eucharist's aesthetic is much more refined than AtG by virtue of their ornate melodies and overall atmosphere of stateliness.

What do you mean by "atmosphere of stateliness?

This makes sense to me. The overall style/aesthetic of the Eucharist album is certainly more orderly, stately, rigid, contained or whatever other word you want to use. At the Gates has a more frantic and and desperate vibe to it aesthetically but this is executed with a higher degree of technical/musical proficiency (as fenrir rightly pointed out). It is easily the more accomplished and matured album of the two and brings to mind works such as Obscura or Hvis lyset tar oss in that both spirit and technical prowess should coalesce to transcend the stylistic limitations of the genres they originate in.

Metal / Re: Profanatica - Progenitors of the Omni-Riff
« on: June 20, 2014, 02:20:50 AM »
There's probably a writer and thinker out there better than myself who can state this more concisely than I can. Admittedly I came across this observation months back and didn't bother writing down my thoughts so this is coming out very approximated and incomplete but whatever. Have it.

You've summed it up quite well. I had the same thoughts about it and even the lyrics seem follow that basic pattern (randomly geneterated out of basic genetic starting material). It's admirable though I guess I probably just don't go for that sound. Give me short, ripping stuff like Dethrone... or their Collection CD any day. And on that note I actually enjoyed the Grand Masters Sessions better than this .

Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« on: June 09, 2014, 03:39:11 AM »
Really, an entire album could have been created out of the myriad compositional directions in which the original Tomhet piece alluded to. I would even be happy to commission such an idea and pay Brian Eno to work as producer on it. But, alas, it still turned out ok (with a few wobbly parts). Unfortunately I don't think any of Burzum's ambient non-metal works have nailed it 100% but you get the general idea. Those first three albums will always be godly!

Audiofile / Re: Requests/Report Dead Links
« on: June 07, 2014, 12:50:20 AM »
Handel, Wagner, Spear of Longinus all dead. Not that Parsifal is worth anyone's time,  ;D

I feel that we are like two hemispheres (fundamentally at odds).

Metal / Re: A deep resonance
« on: June 07, 2014, 12:46:08 AM »
I only discovered this recently but it's top notch deep ambient easily up there with Biosphere for anyone that is interested. I was actually trying to link the liner notes as they are very much worth a read as regards the 'philosophy' of this music. Unfortunately image-links won't upload here in a resolution large enough for reading.

Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« on: June 04, 2014, 01:18:49 AM »
The structural variations certainly make this album more dynamic and enduring than the previous one. There is better use of themes and the interconnection of themes as well as having further developed the idiosyncratic synth/instrument voicings that were put to great use on earlier works. Some of the vocals probably could have been done better but I think it evens out pretty well on the whole. The reworked version of 'Tomhet' was definitely a highlight for me though I couldn't fault the original (also, not that it has much to do with anything but I doubt if it was originally made on a Casio).

As for philosophy/ideology, well I think it goes without saying that music generates its own abstract form of this and that any exterior beliefs injected into it only create confusion and incoherency. It's annoying but at the same time I'm not gonna boycott good music because the artists beliefs don't gel with my own. But I probably also just don't give a damn anymore (not saying that's what you were saying though).

Metal / Re: Danziggy
« on: May 31, 2014, 12:21:55 AM »
I'm listening to Black Aria right now actually after the recent DMU piqued my interest a bit and conveniently Undermine provided the upload, so many thanks, I'm liking it.

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