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If hate is so bad, how come it gives great results with (good) metal music? Maybe there's a noble hatred closer to love and determination instead of the corrupted ego driven hatred of mallcore.
Very good question. I am glad you present it.
I blame vocabulary. Like "love", hate is one of those words that is applied too liberally; this results in diluted meaning. In my experience, love and hate in their purest forms are not just two sides of a coin, but the same motivating principle. Sort of in the same way we feel satisfied after a good fuck or a good meal. It is an intense drive to get something done, that is all.
It is different from the sort of hatred we refer to in this thread, which is a level of anger so high that it is too difficult to check and renders a person incapable of using their planning centers. Irrational and usually destructive decisions are made then. Like someone else pointed out, this reaction stems from fearfulness.
But hatred that does not stem from fearfulness is something else entirely, and is probably what you mean when talking about the hatred that inspires metal music. Good observation.
'Hatred' in good metal is love and reverence for the natural order. This comes in the form of disgust for modern society. Look at the Ildjarn discography culminating in the release of Hardangervidda, which is seemingly the complete flipside of the coin but doesn't it make perfect sense?
This is one of the best trolls I've seen in a while. Man, thanks for the laugh.
lol its a troll account, check out his post history, they are all A/A+ trolls
Best trolls seldom realize they're even trolling!
« on: August 18, 2013, 02:45:23 AM »
We must all become spiritual-shmiritual, and love each other.
All privately-owned cars must be melted down and remanufactured into brightly-painted '67 VW Microbuses.
Mandatory daily candlelight vigils to keep us bonded.
Perhaps a mixture of traditionalist socialism and Buddhism?
I think itís difficult to apply some blanket generalization to Islam as it is full of splinter groups much in the way that Christianity is (though probably to a lesser extent). Itís also not a dead religion as Christianity largely is in the hearts and minds of the general population. Not sure about The Muslim World as such but I did live in Malaysia for a time and found the religion to have a fairly positive effect on the people (positive in terms of adherence to tradition, mental discipline, and a greater degree of interconnectedness within families etc). They also seemed very tolerant of large non-malay/non-muslim populations that had migrated there over time. Of course this isnít where the religion originates and it would have to exhibit some degree of assimilation into the traditional pre-Islamic beliefs and collective psyche of that population as a whole. Muslims defecting to the west are another kettle of fish altogether.
« on: August 16, 2013, 11:39:33 PM »
It's a 'th' sound? I thought more like a 'dh' sound. Couldn't find a less sexy language than Icelandic but I love it anyway.
« on: August 16, 2013, 11:36:04 PM »
Something that bans anything toxic and unhelpful to the common people (in terms of behaviour, morality etc). Then have minimal interference with them. This position assumes that people will do the right thing when they realise they will be killed if they don't.
CNS depressants are the ultimate escapism in drug form. Dissociatives are probably the better option for mindsphere exploration type experience, though most want something to avoid that. A few years ago I actually came upon a gigantic supply of opiates and wisely flushed them down the toilet before anything came of it.
« on: August 16, 2013, 05:27:48 AM »
So no one's performed the initiation sodomy yet?
Have some manners and buy him a drink first !
« on: August 16, 2013, 05:14:24 AM »
Diagnosis: wrapped too tight.
I would agree that order is the ideal. Though occasionally lapsing into disorder often inspires a greater degree of order in the long run, if the former doesn't get the better of you. As for nature, even disorder is part of its all encompassing order (like moments of dissonance in metal song construction).