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Interzone / Save the world
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:52:35 AM »
Cessation of government handouts

Abolish the prison system

Citizens to obtain ‘procreation licence’

Government to seize television networks

(this would be replaced with maybe 3-4 channels focussing on weather, gardening and practical skills, art history and urgent news articles)

Repossession of all iPhones, iPads, iDildos etc and snap them in half.

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Interzone / Re: Keeping your mind flexible
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:46:32 AM »
This is something I want to achieve. But I’m wondering what is the purpose of meditation if not to try not to think? To be able to turn off and not-think so easily would eliminate the need for meditation as I understand it, or is it that this state of not-thinking is itself meditation?

One of the problems I’ve heard people encounter while attempting meditation is the intrusion of thoughts or that the mind wanders from that intended stillness, subconsciously becoming active again.

One could view this as the residual effects of an overstimulated existence on the habitual nature of thought patterns. It’s like subliminal shell-shock, which takes time and effort to heal.

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Interzone / Re: Biological explanation for Liberalism.
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:42:21 AM »
If all existence is a war of ideas, then the law of causality dictates that an idea must manifest into the physical realm where it fully resolves itself. Liberalism is one such idea which lays out (biological/ sociological/psychosocial) conditions, such that it may exist (physically) and reach resolution, simultaneously.

Do you mean to say liberalism is a process that will inevitably end? One thing I have noticed is that most liberals I talk with hate the concept of history as an ongoing struggle of elemental forces and especially sayings such "well, you know, nothing lasts forever (including liberalism ;))". Their conception of history seems to be one of man existing apart from nature or of becoming enlightened and overcoming nature rather than finding balance with it.

Yes. It is self negating (evil), but will return, perhaps under a different name, when the stars are right again......

If the universe is ordered, it is probably more likely to assume that human history is order arising out of collapsing order, rather than order arising from anarchy. Recorded history seems to confirm this hypothesis.

I tend to agree; as the eventual results of such a system can only lead to large-scale destruction of environmental resources, which, coupled with ongoing population hyper-expansion won’t be able to sustain itself.

But if a new order is to arise out of the collapsed remnants of another, won’t this eventually collapse too. And if that is the case, what is the point?

I think liberalism is a one off. Before it there was only a gradual progression of a natural order. ‘Conservative’ and ‘liberal’ are modern definitions given more or less equal standing but in reality, one is to continue in that natural order as opposed to a complete derailment.

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Interzone / Re: Biological explanation for Liberalism.
« on: November 21, 2012, 03:28:56 AM »
If all existence is a war of ideas, then the law of causality dictates that an idea must manifest into the physical realm where it fully resolves itself. Liberalism is one such idea which lays out (biological/ sociological/psychosocial) conditions, such that it may exist (physically) and reach resolution, simultaneously.

Do you mean to say liberalism is a process that will inevitably end? One thing I have noticed is that most liberals I talk with hate the concept of history as an ongoing struggle of elemental forces and especially sayings such "well, you know, nothing lasts forever (including liberalism ;))". Their conception of history seems to be one of man existing apart from nature or of becoming enlightened and overcoming nature rather than finding balance with it.

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Interzone / Re: Place for living
« on: November 15, 2012, 02:49:28 AM »
Ideal situation:

Pleasant temperature.

Be able to grow everything my wife and I eat.

Live far away from the decaying modern world.

Water strorage tanks and filters.

Solar panels.

Reduce need to buy things.

Buy lentils, grains etc in bulk.

Trip into town maybe once every six months.

Learn any good poems by heart.

Ideal situation.

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Interzone / Re: Keeping your mind flexible
« on: November 15, 2012, 02:46:00 AM »
I'm pretty much a novice at chess. It's a fun game though! I often find I do not have many people to play it with, however.

It's the game of the gods. Infinitely simplistic in its complexity. A possible desert island necessity.

There used to be a few metal hall posters and infoterrorists that played the facebook chess application over five years ago now. I learned much from those games but have unfortunately gotten a bit sloppy of late.

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Interzone / Re: Keeping your mind flexible
« on: November 15, 2012, 02:33:49 AM »
Aquarius, surely you recognise that not-thinking is a prerequisite for thinking?  The state of not-thinking is the state of simply being.  It is from this state that all thought arises, though, in the West, people are frequently overtaken by thinking, to the point where it seems "abnormal" to have moments (or even days) of silence.

Nice to see somebody sufficiently neolithic to 'get-it'.
Modern man is an oaf. He thinks too much. And can not stop thinking.
This oafishness is all about mindless mind-churning, not because it serves, but because it has become the default state.
To learn to locate the off-switch is about as high a goal as humans can reach for.
Having switched the mind off, he is ready to start (resume) living as he was intended to live.
One is still able to think, but thinking is exponentially enhanced when one has a non-thinking state to compare thinking to.
A silent mind is directly connected to reality.
Connectedness is life.

It actually hadn’t occurred to me in that order. Having been shat into a hyper-stimulated existence our brains basically know no better than to be constantly active. To not-think would require extensive re-wiring at this point. I shudder to think where that might take human evolution if there even is to be one. 

Perhaps things like prayer and meditation developed for this very purpose, though I can’t say I’m at all familiar with the practice of either.

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Interzone / Re: Drugs are for depressed people, period.
« on: November 15, 2012, 02:31:13 AM »
I doubt if drug-use can have any value beyond what the individual gets out of it, and if it makes him any smarter without being confused for a schizophrenic then that’s truly great. Any noble or pious society wouldn’t need this. If the individual could contribute to such a society then that's great.

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Interzone / Re: Being and staying healthy in modern times
« on: November 10, 2012, 01:37:29 AM »
I started a new exercise of swimming underwater for as long as I can on one breath.

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Interzone / Re: Keeping your mind flexible
« on: November 10, 2012, 01:34:50 AM »
Really?  Whenever I'm idle, I like not thinking.  It's far more enjoyable, and far more elucidatory, in my experience.

The modern world is so clustered with meaningless information that most people couldn't sit still if they tried. I imagine times of not-thinking evolved as a necessary byproduct of thinking, much in the way that dreams help defragment reality.

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Interzone / Re: Drugs are for depressed people, period.
« on: November 10, 2012, 01:12:41 AM »
So far this thread has established that hallucinogen use is not isolated to the modern world and that not everyone who uses them is an outright retard. Needless to say the Aldous Huxley types are in the minority here.

In an attempt to recap the original topic:
 
Consider what exactly is being achieved in a deeper state of consciousness?
Is this not possible without hallucinogens?
Are successive drug trips necessary to achieve it?
Are only drug-users pro-drugs?
Are the benefits of abstinence so negligible?

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Metal / Question for Conservationist
« on: November 07, 2012, 06:18:43 AM »
Do you start with a vision of where a piece is going and flesh it out on the instrument or experiment with the instrument and later put the pieces in their place. I remember reading an interview with Paul Ledney where he stated he would hum the melody he wanted and the guitarist could turn it into a riff. Other metal bands seem to build this massive array of contrasting riffs that oddly enough are in perfect complement to one and other, suggesting their compositional process is more subconscious.

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Interzone / Keeping your mind flexible
« on: November 07, 2012, 06:00:18 AM »
Learning new skills (that serve a purpose). Playing computer chess once a day. Honing your natural intuition. Identifying poison (own thoughts, other people). Realizing you could be wrong. Keeping your mind still.

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Metal / Re: More bullshit music: "tech death"
« on: November 07, 2012, 05:54:24 AM »
Form and intent. The musical language needs to support the ideas being communicated.

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Interzone / Re: Sugar substitutes
« on: November 07, 2012, 05:08:48 AM »
I treat the body and mind as something sacred and my attitude toward food (as with any other fundament of life) is influenced by this. Modern society is incompatible with this. People don't appreciate the luxury of available food and it becomes an accessory of their desires. Alternately, they view it merely as fuel and readily stuff their faces between appointments or on the way to work. The body-mind-temple becomes a pigsty.


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