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Interzone / Re: Colorado Batman Massacre
« on: July 29, 2012, 02:12:06 AM »
This sounds more like an argument against the possibility of altruism.

Some people think the sky is falling down. Some people don't care, while others think things have never been better. One end of the spectrum defines the other. But I often think it's possible that the world is infinitely more beautiful and horrible than most of us realize, of course we like to pick sides as we find ourself within and not outside of the stream of life.

If a person can experience happiness at the expense of another, perhaps what then matters is the health of that happiness.

Interzone / Re: Is there a bit of this degenerate in all of us?
« on: July 29, 2012, 02:05:39 AM »
what do y'all think about this one


diesel, how the hell do you find these fucking screwballs ??

Interzone / Re: How do people cure their addictions?
« on: July 29, 2012, 02:00:08 AM »
Substances distort a person's value system by replacing something healthy with something poisonous.

How do people cure their addictions?

Ask them to go thirty days without the substance. This breaks the cycle and in another thirty days new neural pathways can form.

Metal / Appreciating Euronymous
« on: July 29, 2012, 01:56:14 AM »
He was kind of like a genre-guardian. He set a very high standard and most of the other guys in that scene respected him for his ideas on how the music should be. When he died so did that expectation of high quality and intensity; thus the steady decline in the post 1993 genre of black metal.

Interzone / Re: How do people cure their addictions?
« on: July 27, 2012, 03:43:07 AM »
Having actually worked in one of these institutions at one point, I would agree that diesel is mostly right. Rehab is a band aid solution for the low end of life, something the more insular, traditional societies rarely have a problem with.

Interzone / Re: Colorado Batman Massacre
« on: July 27, 2012, 03:29:05 AM »
It seems like any dissenting ideology that wants to have any popular credibility simply cannot be linked with violence.
Because theres always the underlying assumption that the killer is just projecting his internal problems onto a social or political context. This guy is probably more intelligent than Breivik or McVeigh but made the arbitrary choice to skip pulling a manifesto out of his ass.

I think these guys at least had a point and I was particularly surprised by how articulate and well composed Breivik was in court. Needless to say people can't be convinced by use of force, thus the attacks were mostly counter-productive.

With James Holmes, I doubt if he would even have anything to write a manifesto about. He's intelligent sure, but intelligence is useless without practical application to a worldview.

Does a happy person give a shit that society is garbage? Probably not enough to commit suicide.

Lol... is this a trick question? If society is garbage then I doubt if a person could be truly happy. Of course we don't want to be too dramatic about this as things haven't completely fallen apart, though there are evident problems.

Interzone / Re: Final moral question about killing and this website
« on: July 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PM »
The mock outrage displayed here at supposed immoralities is nauseating. If you read carefully you will see I am actually against violence, but I can't deny that the average western person is basically a fool, hopelessly lost in materialism and consumer culture. If you don't already see this decay in people I would think you are denying it or have identified yourself with them.

The problem is almost intrinsic to overpopulation and its effect on the environment. At this point of the conversation one could argue that just about any group could disappear on mass and it would only help the situation. But if it's mainly under 120iq people that demand the 'good life' which is draining the environment and turning society into a sewer then they are a problem. Of course one could argue that it is preferable to assess individual people on a case by case basis, but this just won't happen in the world and if we're honest with ourselves the results would be the same anyway.

Metal / Re: Metal 2011: The Year of Tradition
« on: July 25, 2012, 02:34:18 PM »
Hail's Inheritance of Evilness is a prime example of a newer band that made successful metal. It sounds old, maybe even timeless, while still being something new.  Is putting out a good metal album nowadays as simple as this: some bands mimic the old, while others are actual artists.

I actually managed to hear this recently and it shows a lot of promise despite its outward appearance of immaturity. They've certainly got the right intentions and have evidently studied their Beherit, Varathron, early Darkthrone and Autopsy albums. Some songs are a bit underdeveloped and sloppy in execution but have the spark and could easily lead to greatness it they ever follow up.

Metal / Re: Interview with Euronymous, Beat Magazine, 1993
« on: July 25, 2012, 02:18:00 PM »
Musicaly EMPEROR is different from the rest of the band because of their extremely shrieking vocals and with speedy changes from slow to ultrafast. The slow parts is a thing they share with the Oslo-band ARCTURUS, which have released an 7". They are something special, because their music is based on synth. Immortal is also a part of the family. Their debut - DIABOLICAL FULLMOON MYSTICISM - is out in these days on the french company Osmose. Their music is more primitive than the others.

I like the way he describes things. Actually I always considered ITNE as one of my favourite synth albums.

Metal / Re: War metal
« on: July 25, 2012, 02:09:37 PM »
I'm guessing the world will get increasingly messed up in the coming eras and that the transcendental/dissident genres of death metal and black metal will amalgamate into a stripped down, folkier version of its historical highlights. Until then, yes metal is very confused, searching for meaning in all the wrong places; thus no good releases these days.

Interzone / Re: Archaic video games
« on: July 25, 2012, 01:55:29 PM »
Consumer is the key word. Unlike other members of generation x y z dumbfuck, I actually grew out of this stuff way back, but briefly returned to it years later as some sort of 'trip down memory lane' only to find it had about the same depth as the different design used on milk cartons back then. It is a waste of childhood and I now put an altogether different value into memories as a result. But I seriously couldn't imagine the devestating effects of carrying this into adulthood, for one thing I barely even have enough time to listen to cds any more.

Interzone / Re: Colorado Batman Massacre
« on: July 25, 2012, 01:40:17 PM »
This guy is an obvious nutjob who killed innocent albiet moronic people for no apparent reason. If nothing else, his deeds will function as an example of societal decay firstly in the sense that a citizen (of any country) can shoot their own people and secondly in that the rest of society will identify him as an external force to be done away with rather than acknowledge it as the sickness within.

It seems like any dissenting ideology that wants to have any popular credibility simply cannot be linked with violence. People like Breivik, McVeigh and Kaczynski are well above average intelligence and have their hearts in the right place but have done themselves and their beliefs a great disservice by resorting to violence, forever being associated with guys like this.

Interzone / Re: Sociology
« on: July 21, 2012, 12:00:28 PM »
Perhaps governments could fund studies into the almost yearly occurrence of puplic shootings as it is a serious problem and one that is not easily solved by ostracizing each individual perpetrator.

Interzone / Re: Comic Books
« on: July 19, 2012, 10:13:04 PM »

Really? I don't know much about comics but I read the four books of Nausicaä a few years ago and it was pretty good as I remember, certainly it had its oddball moments of profundity.

Metal / Essential ambient/drone/vibration recordings
« on: July 19, 2012, 10:03:58 PM »
It's not something I can listen to all the time, but I have had some great ambient listening experiences from time to time and it would be good to get some input or further recommendations from other listeners here.

Fripp and Eno - Evening star - This could well be the perfect ambient album and I've realized what a long overlooked gem it has been in my collection for many years. The basic idea is to have a continual stream of audio from a live instrument (Fripp) fed through a tape-delay unit (Eno) with the two forces almost playing off of each other. This is further processed and rearranged into layers which phase in and out to form a droning repetitive structure with melody at its core. It's a better album than No Pussyfooting and probably the best project Brian Eno was ever involved in.

Maeror Tri - This group seems more droning and noisy with less emphasis on melodic development, but fairly enjoyable if the mood permits it. Mind you their catalogue is extensive and not so easily penetrable so it would be good if someone could identify a 'best work'.

Lustmord - Heresy - I found this interesting at first but don't find myself coming back to it all the often. It's basically just a 'sound-collage' of sampled audio pitched down and drenched in reverb. It's also kind of lacking in internal motion which is really what drives this type of music if nothing else. The place where black stars hang is better but still doesn't grab me in a big way.

Steve Roach - The magnificent Void - I find this hard to distinguish from The place where black stars hang but I think where this guy really shines is when he is mainly melody-focused. Structures from silence has a warmth and a stillness to it unmatched by any other recording while still retaining the necessary sense of movement or internal motion. While Midnight moon is on a different plain of existence altogether. Deep, dark intoxicating waves of spacious organic sound in seemingly endless repetition. I'm almost forced to slow my heart and mind down while appreciating this recording.

Klaus Schulze - To me he was the master of creating a sense of motion/movement/momentum within his music and shaping it furthermore with a genius tact for tension and release. This is best exemplified in early works such as Timewind and Irrlicht. I still like Moondawn but it's an obvious decline from there as everything starts to sound a bit glam-rock-ish in its choice of sounds/timbres and it's also a step away from ambient compositionally.

Tangerine Dream - People praise Phaedra and Rubycon and won't deny that they're brilliant but at this point I honestly find more longevity in their pre-breakthrough album Zeit. Perhaps it is that I listened to that other stuff a thousand too many times and that Zeit by its very nature is not as immediately accessible, but really I just love the heaviness and vastness of it. Of course they didn't yet make use of any sequencers thus the emphasis was more on creating layers of heavily oscillating sound. There is not so much a sense of movement or tension, but inversely, the lack of it as for over an hour it holds you fixated without doing anything. Interestingly the moog modular synth which comes in at the tail end of the first track is being played by Florian Fricke of the group Popol Vuh, he later sold that same synth to Klaus Schulze who was at one stage also a member of Tangerine Dream.

Popol Vuh - Their first two albums fall partly into ambient/noise and partly into world music, but are notable for the dense atmosphere of 'tone sounds' and interesting array of contrasts. In den Gärten Pharaos is particularly awe-inspiring at times in its ability to convey a merging of the senses; as though one were observing the audial form of the great european frescoes.

Eberhard Schoener - Meditations - Interesting, a good companion to the above mentioned but not overly enduring . This is about as close as Krautrock ever got to something purely droning and meditative, devoid of rock.

Biosphere - Substrata is a genius album but the rest of Jensen's catalogue is largely unremarkable. Why is this? Basically because he was transitional at the time and still retained something of the energy and directness of his roots in house/techno music. Thus he stumbled onto greatness with substrata but failed when the design became codified. The point is that ambient is not slow and quiet, it is pure force simplified to the point of being immaculate. There is no narrative structure but its design is something like a byproduct or afterglow of a narrative structure (and mostly it is that the artist has attempted both).

Time Machines by Coil could be considered the quintessential drone album but it doesn't go for atmosphere and it certainly doesn't acknowledge even the slightest hint of melody. Instead it functions more in the way that beautiful architecture does; revealing inner space rather than outer space. And in a conventional understanding of music appreciation it simply isn't music but it's awesome nonetheless. It's something close to what I think of when the average joe ask me what kind of music I like "well, I prefer noise to music".

Suuri Shamaani is like Time Machines worship but with an even more clinical or sterile approach (a trait oddly enough shared by fellow Finnish techno pioneers, Pan sonic). The project is labeled as 'ambient metamusic' and it is fairly faithful to that description, if you can imagine a picture composed of component parts but no obvious whole

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