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Interzone / Re: The most subtle of child abuse
« on: May 06, 2011, 10:56:21 AM »
We see this as abusive behaviour because the values and lifestyles which are needed to operate in society are generally totally antithetical to having a truly healthy outlook on life.

To be healthy in an unhealthy society you have to reject it to some extent, but also know this from ones own experiences. So raising a child in isolation from mainstream society would invariably cause dysfunction. Best thing is to expose the child to healthy alternatives to the norm without being overtly dissenting. Better yet, only geniuses should have a child.

Interzone / Re: osama bin laden, dead.
« on: May 03, 2011, 03:41:00 AM »
He was a good man, I can sense the kindness in his eyes.

Interzone / Re: Hilarity of herd behavior
« on: April 29, 2011, 05:02:32 AM »
Basically the west has replaced tradition with pop culture over the last half century and these names reflect that only too well.

Metal / Re: Organ music
« on: April 25, 2011, 05:34:22 AM »
It's a darn shame, but Bruckner hasn't written any major work for the instrument. Wish we could have access to some of his improvisations though, apparently he was phenomenal at that.

What about WAB126-131? Are they worth checking out?

This was recommended elsewhere some time ago, but for the Bach / organ neophyte, there is no better set of CDs to have: a classic interpretation of (near) Bach's Complete Organ Works... for $20.

Thanks, I actually ordered it. Any recommendations of renowned organists, do they differ as dramatically as conductors?

Metal / Re: darker side of classical music
« on: April 25, 2011, 05:12:56 AM »
For a long time I've tried to break into classical without much success. I think my problem is that I too have been looking for a level or a type of darkness which I presumed was there but which I have simply not been able to find. As others have suggested here, I think that if you are looking for the kind of darkness you find in metal music then you're goingt o be disappointed. In future I'll be approaching classical with a more open mind.

Also, the classical world never knew or needed to remedy such troubled times, it wasn't dissident music in the sense that metal is. Classical is a celebration of life that includes both darkness and happiness, sometimes simultaneously, but modern classical doesn't do that as well as Kraftwerk.

Metal / Re: Metal listening sessions
« on: April 24, 2011, 03:17:23 AM »
For instance, a few times a week i like to go for a walk through one of the local trails(which takes about an hour) and select an album i have never listened to before.  The fresh air,movement and beautiful forestry complements just about any death/black metal album in my opinion.  I also find being outdoors improves the listening experience by keeping the mind totally focused on the music. 

I have had many good experiences like this but now I prefer to walk without music so I can be fully aware of the surroundings. I can think more clearly and it's also the time when my own best ideas will come to me.

I tend to listen to metal in the home envirmonment but it's easy as I live very isolated with no interruptions. I won't listen to more than a few albums at a time otherwise the energy level stagnates, instead I'll move onto TD or something.

If you ever take a trip through the countryside on bicycle bring a walkman and this absurdist but absolute compilation of the diverse works of the Finnish black metal terror that became an abstract and romanticist dark ambient force of origin.

I've always been partial to this idea. Anyone tried it?

Metal / Re: Happy "Onward to Golgotha" day!
« on: April 22, 2011, 12:31:49 AM »
black cum will drip...

Interzone / Re: ADD/Ritalin
« on: April 21, 2011, 12:45:32 PM »
I believe there are people here with ADD and even derealization. Derealization is a bizarre condition (but I think it is very old and common - it's just not very well known) in wich the world gains a dream-like quality, for lack of a better explanation, and it is related to ADD I think.

Derealization (the world doesn't feel real to the person) as oppose to depersonalization (the person feels they aren't real but the world is) is a perceptual disturbance and has more to do with psychosis or dissociation than ADD/ADHD. Maybe you're just a deep thinker.

Metal / Re: Organ music
« on: April 21, 2011, 12:30:10 PM »
Organ music seems to be composed/performed with a very particular dynamic and it certainly gives a different feeling to other classical music, more of a solemn or reverent emotion (not meant in a religious sense). It's also one of the oldest and least altered forms of composition, so it carries with it the power of a tradition from a distant time.

I'm mainly familiar with Bach and a few other composers on a compilation of early German organ music, I definitely have to delve further into the works of Buxtehude. I don't know a thing about the more modern composers but I'll be looking into Franck and anything Bruckner has written for the instrument.

Metal / Re: Best of Underground Metal 1982-2002
« on: April 21, 2011, 08:15:11 AM »
Also, how do you guys feel about Final Holocaust being at the top of the Death Metal List? The album's never click with me, personally, and it does't seem to get much discussion either. A prozakian idiosyncracy? Or do any of you actually consider it the greatest DM album ever?

Actually, I think the only two really consistent criticisms of these lists thare variations of "wtf is up with massacra topping that list" and "celtic winter over 1k swords? you have GOT to be kidding me".

(For the record: I don't care much for massacra, I prefer celtic winter, and I think thousand swords is the better album, and there's a handful of other albums I'd change, but whatever.)

That album doesn't move me all that much either. Actually I'm suprised no IMMOLATION record made it onto the list, it could easily swap with Sepultura which is more of black/death/speed prototype anyway. I guess they kind of already covered new york death metal with the other bands.

Metal / Organ music
« on: April 17, 2011, 11:54:23 AM »
What do you think of organ music? initially I felt it evokes a more finite corridor of emotions than music composed for orchestra, but this can be advantageous as the composition then concentrates more on structure in an atonal space, and so instead of creating a bigger picture it reveals the inner detail. I also thought there is some parallel to the primordial drone sound of certain non-western traditional music/s.

Interzone / Re: Thinking about death.
« on: April 17, 2011, 02:29:57 AM »
I try not to think about it.

Metal / Relating metal album stucture to symphonic 'movements'
« on: April 05, 2011, 12:31:17 PM »
One of the triumphs of the development of metal over time would be the expansion of structure from well developed songs to songs which support each other in the context of the album. By this I mean not merely selecting songs in an order that makes the album flow freely, but actually composing each segment with a deep knowledge of how it relates to what came before and what comes next. In this it resembles the movements of a classical symphony rather than a collection of tracks on a cd. Hvis lyset tar oss would epitomise this appraoch. Also of note is the use of recurring themes throughout the composition i.e. Filosofem and Kraftwerk's Computerwelt album.

Metal / Re: Electric Doom Synthesis as a proto-genre
« on: March 30, 2011, 07:02:39 AM »
The album offers some interesting ideas which have their inherent obstacles:

- It uses both a narrative and ambient structure however there is often too much division between the two.

- Its thematics give a sense of the blurring of heaven and hell.

- While structure and texture can be expanded, electronic sound often lacks the same 'spontaneous' dynamic of live instuments.

- Compared to metal instruments, electronic sound requires more careful attention to 'production' detail, knowledge of tone sounds is essential.

Metal / Re: key to the gate
« on: March 26, 2011, 10:51:41 AM »
The lyrics fit perfectly with the music.  The song starts with harshness and dissonance.  In the second half of a beautiful hopeful melody floats through the harshness and counterpoints the first half.  On repeated listening, it is clear that the harshness is just as beautiful as the hopeful melody.  The hopeful melody is telling us  “I will open the gates to Hell one day...”

There are several pieces on this album that feature a kind of build and release structure to great effect whereas Hvis lyset tar oss applies the idea to the album as a whole. And yes I would agree this method is a great example of how music, concepts and lyrics can be one and the same.

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