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Metal / How do you compose?
« on: July 23, 2011, 01:47:20 AM »
This is probably one of my favourite questions asked in the DLA interviews as it offers an insight into art in its moment of conception i.e. the need to communicate an ideal and how the artists attempts to create a coherent language for it.

If I were a composer I would start with deep thought around various aspects of my worldview and develop melodies which correspond emotionally to that. Start with the basic melody, and build a framework that helps carry it to the fullest extent. Though I think a lot of this process would be subconscious, it is a different approach to finding something which 'sounds cool' while jamming.

Metal / Re: Is BURZUM Patterned off of Anything?
« on: July 16, 2011, 03:17:18 AM »
he rips a riff from Bathory - BLOOD FIRE DEATH on cant remember which track off of Det Som Engang Var

Snu mikrokosmos tegn definately resembles one of the later tracks from BLOOD FIRE DEATH, but it's probably better accomplished. Most of his material is basically Bathory riffing with an advanced sense of ambient tension applied to the album composition.

Metal / Re: Introductions: User Relationships to Classical Music
« on: July 16, 2011, 02:58:20 AM »
I grew up listening to classical with my grandmother, her grandfather was apparently a conductor of a small scale orchestra in our hometown. To me re-exploring classical was the logical consequence of listening to black metal, neo-classical, ambient etc only with ten times hightened emotional receptivity, still black metal was essential for scorning the modern world. My favourite composers would be Bruckner, Wagner, Beethoven and other innovators of the romantic era.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: June 10, 2011, 03:42:14 PM »
Some ideas about how metal could expand/develop

  • Longer meldies
  • Attention to variation and development of melody
  • Cyclic and recurring use of themes
  • Cross-pollination of themes across the album
  • Think outside of the song/album idiom
  • Deconstruction
  • Increase interplay of instuments
  • Decrease constant use of instruments
  • Emphasise consistancy of music and its formative concepts

Interzone / Re: The English
« on: June 10, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
In all honesty they needed a massive defeat to neutralize their collective psyche, this should have been (but unfortunately was not) WW2 thus validating their cultural inferiority to themselves. Modern cultural degeneration is a different process altogether and might even be worse in America.

Metal / Re: Burzum compositional style
« on: June 10, 2011, 03:12:05 PM »
Interesting. So where does this motif originate from anyway? does it come from his influences or can it be found in an earlier music altogether?

Also for anyone in the know, what is the style of crushing "eerie notes" together that Mayhem and Throns allegedly invented (according to Fenriz on Until the light takes us)?

Interzone / Re: What is aristocratic
« on: May 29, 2011, 11:01:41 PM »
Inequality by definition.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: May 29, 2011, 10:43:39 PM »
The crowd thinks art = image. There is much trolling potential here.

The image is immaterial, thus it should be used as a deterrent.

Cut out the vocals, cut out the drumming, and cut out everything not contained in the music.

To anyone not paying attention, metal is to come across as thoroughly boring.

Aren't these opposing views?

Art will always manifest its inherent image, but I think an exterior image to deter parasites would actually work contrary to its intended purpose. Metals primary vulnerability was the easily exploitable image, so it should remove itself altogether from this axis. The ideas and emotions communicated through music will speak for itself.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: May 27, 2011, 09:23:10 PM »
I'm not suggesting we pretend to be Nazis, but I am suggesting that we need to display more extremity if we're to be recognised as extreme (and, really, the only way we're going to "reclaim" Metal is by being frigging extreme about it).  A lot of this is post-production; we first need suitably good/extreme music, and then we need to present it in a way which says "this is for us, not for you".

Hessians should adopt aspects of the Blasphemy ethos: powerlifting and barbarism. Take back metal by force and rule by fear.

In a time where everything is image-based, it's probably better to ignore image and concentrate on the music and its formative philosophy otherwise the message is too easily lost in extremism. Clean cut and well dressed should be ample for image.

Interzone / Re: Good Ambient/Electronic Music
« on: May 25, 2011, 03:35:58 AM »
Tangerine Dream - peaked with phaedra/rubycon then began to decline.

Klaus Schulze - peaked with timewind, moondawn is good but also the beginning of the decline. Irrlicht and cyborg are ambient/drone.

Neptune Towers - KS worship however more jaggered, noisy and abstract. Doesn't build momentum quite as well.

Ash Ra Tempel - Neuzeit der erde (a good companion to the above artists A-/B+).

Kraftwerk - trans europa express, computerwelt and tour de france soundtracks all are A+ however never struck me as typically ambient

Lord Wind - Heralds of Fight is on par with Atlantean monument

When - Death in the blue lake pt1/ The black death

The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath a Cloud - like an expanded version of Ildjarn in a way; short songs form a succession of textures within the album (?B+)

Ildjarn/Nidhogg - Hardangervidda is godly. Essentially an inverse blueprint of Richard Strauss's great tone poem Eine Alpensinfonie

Beherit - A+ for ideas and ambition

Mortal Constraint - Legend of deformation  (dark immersive structures in an electo-industrial style)

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: May 25, 2011, 02:32:35 AM »
It's all about tradition the way I see it.  No sexy answers.  Just tradition.

Could you elaborate?

Well first of all, this is what Fenriz says in Until the Light Takes Us - Darkthrone was created to uphold tradition.  The paradigm of the Norwegians was not to "out-do" the sweatpants wearing Floridian Death Metal at their own game, it was to go BACK to the 80s, back to first principles.  It's one-upsmanship through "regress."  As brilliant as the No Mosh, No Core, No Fun mantra of the Norwegians was, I think it's time metal rediscovered some of its "loudmouth redneck" again.  I remember a commenter/hipster in the blog say something to the effect of: "Infernal Warriors of Death???  how crude/garish!  why I never!!" (it helps to imagine it in an effeminate or English accent). See, Norwegian Black Metal became too refined.  And I believe in the Tao Te Ching it says: "When you sharpen a blade for too long it becomes dull."  I think, for metal, anyway, the bigger risk is becoming too refined, not too "rough around the edges."

I certainly like projects like Lord Wind, but there's no reason for metal to totally jump ship and become ambient.  If an aesthetic/appearance has worn out it's welcome, what makes us think that abandoning it will help us "find the spirit?"  Appearance is not reality, but it also does not imply a lack of reality or an "opposite" reality.  In other words, people rightfully conclude that just because something has the metal aesthetic does not make it metal, but then some of those people think "see..we're too reliant on aesthetic, we need to abandon the aesthetic altogether."  Evolution happens SLOWLY

Think about the recent story of Cosmic Atrophy.  That album is a few hours of work away from being complete.  I guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions, but one wonders if shame is involved on some level.  I read an interview with Antti Boman yesterday, and he said he regrets abandoning metal for 5 years from 94-99.  You see this happen all the time.  A person loves something, then is ashamed of it, then is ashamed that they were ever ashamed of it.  It's the Eternal Recurrence.  You have to say Yes to EVERYTHING.

Metal should not "out-think the room."  Regrets and second guessing are not metal.  I think that if Norway challenged Florida, then that means that America still owes Europe one.  Is the next "challenge" of metal for America to find it's rough-around-the-edges loudmouths?

This is to say metal lacks that youthful energy of the past. The real question is how can it retain that energy while becoming more serious and long-standing than 1-3 albums then sellout. I would like to see a new music whereby the musicians are more like composers, getting better and even more profound with age. As far as the timespan between evolutionary steps is concerned; there shouldn't be one. It evolves when necessary or otherwise becomes irrelevant.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: May 23, 2011, 07:33:58 AM »
Replace the genre but keep the metal spirit.

Metal / Re: punk versus metal
« on: May 23, 2011, 07:18:00 AM »
I can't listen to much punk, it's just way too 1-dimensional however I recognise the strong influence (via hardcore/thrash) in some of the best metal. Alcohol/THC ties in with the image thing and is pretty irrelevant IMO.

Metal / Re: Favourite metal poetry
« on: May 19, 2011, 07:41:05 PM »
Well to clarify, I mean the function of vocals generally can't be removed. It is interdependant with every other aspect of the composition.

This ultimately depends on the composition in question. There are plenty of death metal songs that would still work without vocals (the ones where vocal phrasing doesn't determine riff structure absolutely), and much of the best black metal is in the form of either succinct, instrumental "poems," or 7+ minute pieces where 60-70% of the composition is already instrumental. Plenty of composers over the centuries have rearranged and transcribed pieces for entirely different instrument sets, moods, etc. without damaging the intent of the music; in fact, if we were to decompose a piece of music into a small handful of effects, we would see that, in some cases, a transcription increases the potency of one effect while decreasing another, occasionally for the better. It depends on the purpose of the change in arrangement, so some are detrimental, while others have their place.

I try to view composition in a holistic sense where lyrics, poems, artwork etc are all included.

Sure, but stating that lyrics are separable from musical content is no different from stating that aesthetically pleasing wall adornments, no matter how thematically complementary they are to the function of a building, are separable from that building's support structures; you can remove good lyrics and replace them with really stupid ones without affecting the support structures of the music. Furthermore, you don't even need wall adornments or lyrics in the first place; emotion can be conveyed vocally without the aid of symbolic language.

I can see your point but surely lyrics are more than just aesthetic. In a holistic view the lyrics wouldn't be seen out of context of the vocal style.

If something is a failure in one respect, that doesn't prevent us from taking a granular approach to the thing as a whole. Granularity may seem antithetical to holism on some level, but it isn't if you use it as a tool for building a new whole out of the parts of other wholes.

This is like "don't judge a book by its cover" vs "a good book should be well represented by an appropriate cover". I have to use both approaches when appreciating Darkthrone's Goatlord, it's core ideas are brilliant but with some developmental flaws; the vocals and lyrics are mostly inconsistent with the rest of the material.

Metal / Re: Norsk Arisk Classical
« on: May 19, 2011, 06:33:06 PM »
I've always admired this composer for bringing warmth and tradition to his modernist style, though I find like Grieg his music is rather small scale when compared to the weight of the great German romantics. Hundrad Hardingtonar is probably my faviourite of his works especially the fifth suite (troll tunes:)

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