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Metal / Re: Exotic Black Metal - BM gone too far?
« on: February 21, 2011, 10:01:46 AM »
Remember, art must speak simultaneously about and to a given cultural audience; therein is its value as a means of transmission of heritage maintained. Without such cultural context, it ceases to have meaning.

Yes. A healthy culture can be influenced by other cultures, but when it tries to emulate the other culture its sense of context has become corrupt. That's why non-european bands playing in the northern european style will never surpass novelty; the artform cannot have the same meaning for those who haven't inherited the last couple of centuries of european history.

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Metal / Re: What would a metal society look like?
« on: February 21, 2011, 09:09:56 AM »
Metal is a temporary manifestation of a type of thought process; dissidence. But it's inherently romanticist. In the past there was no need for metal as classical and traditional music were still relevant, in the future this will also be the case. Metal will dissappear when it's goal is achieved hence a "metal society" would be an impossibility.

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Metal / Re: New Burzum album 2011 (Fallen)
« on: February 13, 2011, 04:04:03 AM »
Filosofem was aimed at expanding atmosphere through abstracting older material, and it's miles away from these last two albums as it still had the spirit to create something profound.

Fallen fails to achieve ambience and only seems like it does to appear connected to older works, in the end ambience is incompatible with the pop structure/technique found on Fallen. The concepts, lyrcs, interviews and posing for the camera are also a derailment from the original vision.

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Interzone / Re: Beherit - Engram
« on: January 22, 2011, 03:44:17 PM »
Needs the death metal inspired tempo/riff breaks and weirdness of DDTM

Yes, while it's evolutionary and bustling with an energy waiting to be expanded upon, its maturity has led to a marked decrease in spontaneity causing it to sound a bit 'scripted' in its use of traditional metal technique (though I think this is much more of a problem for recent Profanatica). The thing I notice all through Beherit compositions is it maintains a balance between careful design (as found in ambient structures) and honest spontaneous expression. I think coming back to metal after centuries of studying soundwaves also took it's toll but added a profound understanding of structure at the molecular level. New material would be awesome.

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Metal / Re: America should have avoided making black metal
« on: January 22, 2011, 02:39:32 PM »
Profanatica and Demoncy are uniquely American in style and I'm greatful for their early works but otherwise I agree that quality black metal is exclusive to Europe where the integral culture is much different. Even Swedish style of death metal was more epic and atmospheric so I think it's a natural progression, barring that it's not really atmosphere that's atractive about death metal so I prefer American death metal in that respect.

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Metal / Re: Relation of doom and black metal
« on: January 21, 2011, 04:04:08 PM »
There are plenty of black-doom bands out there. I say plenty because three black-doom bands would be too many for me already. But they're there if you go look for them. DSBM also seems to try to create self-pitying doom metal with black metal aesthetics and technique.

But I think the similarity in atmosphere is only created because of simpler musicality compared to most death metal music. I doubt there is a real connection between Doom and BM apart from metal's roots in Black Sabbath.

I've found the best works in doom metal are similar enough to black metal in terms of unifying concept with music structure (and it's romanticist based, I wouldn't even consider depressive/suicidal bands). Both use ambience to immerse the listener in atmosphere only one is more upfront, the other more contemptlative.

The black metal with doom influence I was thinking of is sort of a grey area with ambient, it's more about a way re-phrasing black metal in a more contemplative form. I was particularly interested in the high end trebbly aesthetic as oppose to obvious death/black bands. Some examples

Beherit - engram - songs like pimeydan henki, demon advance
Midnight Odyssey - firmament
I shalt become - wanderings, in the falling snow

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Interzone / Understanding Reddit: homosexuals, or virgins?
« on: January 21, 2011, 03:55:31 PM »
Not meaning to go off topic but I always thought discogs is uncharted territory for metal reviews. It might be effective to make somewhat simplified verions of the DLA reviews for albums there, not so much with the intention of promoting anus, but promoting the idea of being able to review an album intelligently.

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Metal / Re: BURZUM's 9th ALBUM: FALLEN
« on: January 13, 2011, 06:29:40 AM »
If true, looking forward to this.  Fuck all y'all and your Belus-bashing.

Absolutely, I'm very curious to say the least. No information on the official site makes me skeptical though.

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Metal / Relation of doom and black metal
« on: January 12, 2011, 02:40:44 PM »
I was revisting the doom genre recently (stuff like Skepticism, Thergothen, Cathedral) and it occured to me that it works its magic by immersion in atmosphere, and in this way it's closer to black metal than death metal. Death metal is more twisted and abstract in design, kind of like decoding information of what happened rather than feeling it emotionally. Yet stylistically, doom borrows more from the subterranean, gutteral sound of death metal. So I was wondering why there hasn't been more groundwork done in making (true) black metal from a doom perspective, or maybe it's been done but I've missed it. I must say Darkthrone had some great ideas on panzerfaust and total death. Also Summoning vaguely springs to mind but more due to their use of slow tempos.

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Metal / Re: Refining your own musical taste
« on: January 12, 2011, 02:35:56 PM »
A year ago I deleted all my mp3s and purchased CDs of the music that I actually listened to. It was the best damn decision I ever made when it came to my music collection. Don't listen to anything you wouldn't pay hard-earned money for.

Once again, very good idea. I'll start on that tomorrow.

I usually research the band, then if it sounds interesting download and burn to cd as I think listening on computer detracts from the initial experience. If it's good then I'll track down an actually copy as it's better having the lyrics and cover etc to better grasp the complete concept.

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Interzone / Re: A little thought experiment for y'all.
« on: January 10, 2011, 09:53:25 AM »
I like manual labour. It gives one time to daydream. BUT, if I had to push carts for the rest of my life... I would quite willingly sacrifice my life waging war against The Establishment, knowing myself to be capable of so much more than pushing carts.

It's probably cause you're intelligent enough to contribute to a more complex purpose. From what I've seen, the average worker doesn't desire much more than what they have. It's just that modern society with it's illusions of 'freedom/eqaulity' causes them to want more, and with their limited capacity they still get nothing, only now they're full of resentment.




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Interzone / Re: Praising Murderers
« on: January 08, 2011, 03:06:58 PM »
It sends the message that something is going seriously wrong in modern society, even simple idiots can understand that. But that's all it achieves.

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Metal / Re: Metal music theory
« on: January 08, 2011, 02:58:43 PM »
Interesting project and it would be great if this ever came to fruition. One thing I wonder about though is how bands came to use this theory, I mean do they consciously know what chord they're using or is it largely subconscious i.e. they transcribe the melody they're thinking of into a riff.

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Metal / Re: Godflesh revisited
« on: January 07, 2011, 04:33:05 AM »
Streetcleaner is easily his most effective album, it pretty much summerized the ideas of grindcore in a composition that was ambient/industrial in structure. Nothing has come close to this either from Godflesh or anyone else, the s/t is ok but nothing special.

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Metal / Re: In metal: Nailing down compositional form and structure
« on: January 07, 2011, 04:15:19 AM »


I thought of this thread when I saw this graph made by Klaus Schulze to depict the progression of one of his pieces. Hopefully the scan isn't too blurry, it shows what instrument and roughly what sequence comes in at what point, how it changes and interplays etc. note that it's only a basic guide and leaves a lot of room for improvisation around a few central ideas.

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