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Metal / Re: Top 10 Worst Crimes Committed by Black Metal Musicians
« on: November 30, 2013, 04:43:50 PM »
10. Alcest
9. Wolves in the Throne Room
8. Dimmu Borgir
7. Ihsahn's solo albums
6. Whatever the fuck post-black metal was
5. Later Enslaved
4. Later Immortal
3. Trendy Blasphemy rip-offs
2. Later Darkthrone
1. Alcest

Metal / Re: Top 10 Best Progressive Metal Bands
« on: November 30, 2013, 04:40:20 PM »
That Decibel black metal list was semi-decent and even included some cool obscure stuff like Min Tid Skal Komme and the second Gehenna album, despite its glaring omission of the first Enslaved album or anything from Graveland. This progressive metal list, however, is laughable. No Fates Warning, no Atheist, no VOIVOD? These people can't be serious. Their picks don't even make sense, like including Periphery but completely snubbing Meshuggah, without whom Periphery wouldn't even exist.

Metal / Re: Metallica are Beliebers
« on: October 31, 2013, 11:43:40 AM »
Fade to Black is a great, classic song. Really shows how metal was moving towards more narrative songwriting. It's like it's right on the brink. There's the loud/soft verse/chorus sort of thing going on in the first half, but even then, the "chorus" part is actually just riffs, no vocals or hooks. Then it builds up to the second half of the song, which goes in a new direction with some great riffs flowing into one another. Riffs will start off one way, then slightly change but still retain their same character, and finally completely morph into something new. You can really feel the influence of Mercyful Fate songs like Evil in regards to Fade to Black's structure.

One is pretty cool, but it doesn't hit me as hard as Fade to Black. This is probably due to the fact that it's the third song that Metallica had written in this style, with Fade to Black and Sanitarium being the first two. I can see why it has become a part of pop culture, since it's probably the catchiest song on the album and there was that video and everything, but it's not really the best cut off of their fourth full-length. I prefer Shortest Straw, Eye of the Beholder, and Dyer's Eve off of that album.

I think that people might latch on to these songs in the early stages of metal appreciation because the whole loud/soft thing makes them seem more sophisticated-sounding to untrained ears, as opposed to something like Slayer where the narrative is a lot more complex but the aesthetic is more uniform. This also explains why (bl)O(w)peth got so popular in the early '00s.

Metal / Re: Hipsters justify metal intrusion
« on: October 30, 2013, 09:22:55 AM »
I don't see why they have to drag a decent band like Pallbearer into that mess. Also, I'll never understand why breeding '60s protest rock and its descendants back into metal is somehow a great leap forward.

Metal / Re: The real reason death metal bands love reunions
« on: October 20, 2013, 10:41:01 AM »
Wow, does that article ever take a bizarre left turn in the middle, when they start talking about Carcass' latest debacle as something new and vital, even though anyone with ears can hear that it's a recombination of their last three albums.

Metal / Re: Bathory - Blood Fire Death (October 8, 1988)
« on: October 17, 2013, 01:03:23 PM »
Hard to believe this is 25 years old, and even that 1993 is now 20 years ago.
Not really for me. I mean, I'm a few months younger than this album, so that might be part of it, but something about this album always seemed ancient and timeless to me. From the first time I heard the Emperor cover version, that riff set after the initial acoustic section in "A Fine Day to Die" felt familiar yet distant to me, like I heard the melody in a previous life or something.

This album does tend to get bogged down in the middle with sounding a bit too much like generic thrash at times, but at its best, something about this album activates something deep inside my genetic memory. Not many other albums do that, at least not to the extent this one does. Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism and Thousand Swords come to mind in this regard, and both of those albums were heavily influenced by Bathory's 1988 opus.

Metal / Re: bitterman reviews on Metal Archives
« on: October 17, 2013, 12:06:37 PM »
One of the guys from Rigor Mortis just posted a bunch of stuff up on eGay, including their first album and the Freaks EP, for reasonable prices. I blew twenty-five and thirty bucks respectively on those two releases a few years ago, so hopefully this will help some newer fans of the band out.

Metal / Re: Youtube gems
« on: October 17, 2013, 11:57:23 AM »

One of a number of fan made videos for Summoning`s latest. Beautiful natural vistas complement the music excellently.
Yeah, just make sure than none of the videos promote messages inconsistent with the Revolution, otherwise Protector will get pissed.

Metal / Re: Metal Archives.
« on: October 17, 2013, 11:55:20 AM »

Edit: Must check that band out.

Edit 2: Really sorry I did :(

Check out those YouTube comments. Hipster black metallers really do act just like Communists. Don't like their music? You're  fascist/reactionary/bourgeoisie!

The band in question is another one of those tiresome ideology before actual musical content bands. The intro just sounds like it will be the start of some generic world music-influenced alternative rock, and that's what the song ends up being, despite the band's attempts to mask it with black metal aesthetics like screams and fuzzy guitars. Narrative song development? No time for that, because music should just be a platform for propaganda. Right view, right intention, right speech, right action, maaaaaaaaan. I mean, I'm an atheist, but Buddhism has a lot of cool ideas, bro. Now for a quick puff on my electric cigarette before the Red Fang show.

Their song titles are good for a laugh at first glance, but they end up teetering more towards the infuriating. "European History Is a History of Rot" "When We Are Gone, the World Will Be Awash With Light" "Destruction, Not Reformation" "The Righteous Is the Enemy of Natural" There really can be no dialog with these people. The funny part is that they aren't even really good at following up on their own agitprop. If white people are so evil, why do the people behind Book of Sand continue to befoul the earth with their horrid whiteness? The fact that they haven't killed themselves yet proves that they are really capitalists at heart. How sad...

Metal-Archives is useful for looking up concrete information on bands, but the forum culture is pretty degraded. A few of the reviewers like this guy, this guy, and this guy seem to be generally on the ball most of the time (word choice is important at the end of that sentence).

Metal / Re: Help Fund a New Obituary Album
« on: August 13, 2013, 04:20:38 PM »
I think I'd rather give money to their cat charity instead. Obituary really went downhill fast after their second album.

Metal / Re: Darkthrone, a day in the life of
« on: August 08, 2013, 06:28:42 PM »
Ha ha, I gave up looking for their stuff before Reverbnation even existed! Thanks, this is really awesome. Definitely has the old Cerrito feeling to it, but in a totally new way. I get a bit of an early At the Gates vibe during that 1:18-1:35-ish part on the first song. Even if Cerrito's not involved anymore, I'm still pretty stoked to hear more from these guys.

Metal / Re: Darkthrone, a day in the life of
« on: August 03, 2013, 01:01:43 PM »
I don't really dig their new music, but I still respect the hell out of Darkthrone, both for their earlier work and their being productive members of society. I'm currently embarking on the heavy metal teacher path in life myself, so Culto is a bit of an inspiration. Also, Fenriz' online presence has introduced me to some cool music over the years, like Siekiera, Savage Grace, and Griffin.
Doug Cerrito is apparently an engineer.
This might sound silly, but that career path almost seems like a forgone conclusion when you listen to songs he wrote like the title track off of Breeding the Spawn and such. The man wrote music that felt more like it came from an architect than from a songwriter, which is probably why early Suffocation has been a favorite of mine for nearly a decade. Has anyone here ever actually manged to listen to his post Suffo stuff with Day of Doom? Apparently it's mostly instrumental death metal with really long song running times, but I've never actually been able to find anything to listen to, even low quality mp3's or stuff on eBay. I really liked his stuff with Welt and the Hate Eternal songs he wrote, so this is kind of like the death metal holy grail for me.

Metal / Re: Goreaphobia
« on: July 22, 2013, 04:21:42 PM »
So, what was the deal with the second Goreaphobia full-length, anyway? I've had that demo compilation of theirs since it came out, but I just got around to giving their two albums a listen today. The first one was a bit surprising with the doom and black metal parts, but once I got used to that, it seemed like a logical extension of the first four songs off of Demented Omen. Pretty decent old school reunion album, I'd say. Certainly better than that second post-reunion Asphyx debacle or the Vallenfyre stuff (which I initially liked but ended up selling after six months).

But yeah, that second album... It's like black/thrash/punk or something meets Heartwork, complete with simple song structures and ample breathing room for the guitar solos. Listen to this if you don't believe me. I don't know if I hate it, but it definitely doesn't grab me like their prior stuff does. I certainly was caught off guard by the style change, if that's what they were going for. The starts out sounding like Mortal Repulsion, but it takes a left turn about halfway through the first track and never looks back, almost like they're fucking with the listener's expectations on purpose. They may have re-broken up at the right time if this is the direction they were heading in. Did Alex Bouks take all of his real Goreaphobia-sounding stuff to Incantation when he joined or something?

The goofiest thing is that the whole oldschool death metal (tm) crowd appears not to have even noticed the massive style shift between the two albums. These people just keep on praising everything that reminds them of what they think old Incantation or Entombed sound like. The distinction here is important: not stuff that actually sounds like old school death metal, but rather, stuff that approximates what the funderground thinks made the elder classics great. In the case of the last Goreaphobia album, the new school old schoolers didn't even really acknowledge the change.

I'm kind of perversely impressed with Gorephobia in a way, for so utterly pulling the wool over the NWN/Dark Descent crowd's eyes. I mean, look at this Metal-Archives review:
Their entire discography is possessed with old-school dirt that chomps like a hungry shark, and thankfully none of the group's horrific habits were dropped during this excellent slab of maggot-infested death metal. "Apocalyptic Necromancy" is a fantastic dive into Goreaphobia if you've never experienced the spell of these American monsters, or you can listen to some fake death metal from the likes of The Black Dahlia Murder or Whitechapel, because real death metal isn't for everyone. Those of you with brain cells and knowledge, take note of this wonderful exhibition.
"Real death metal isn't for everyone." Apparently a very true statement, as evidenced by the author's inability to tell the real stuff from something that just kind of vaguely approximates the aesthetic. Emperor's new clothes and all that.

Demented Omen of Masochism and Morbidious Pathology are still pretty cool, though.

Metal / Re: Best Of Lists
« on: June 29, 2013, 05:06:35 PM »
That Immortal album really has climbed up my favorite albums list over the past few years. I hardly ever listen to Pure Holocaust any more, actually, but that's probably because I used to listen to it all the time. Given a few years, I'm sure it'll fall back into regular rotation. Blizzard Beasts and Battles in the North also get a lot of play, and even At the Heart of Winter from time to time.

That said, their first album really just has this special feeling to it that the others don't quite posses. Like you said, it's a great continuation/perfection of Bathory's evil black metal phase. When I listen to Diabolical all on its own without any distractions, I often feel the urge to follow it up with Ancient's first album. That one pulls from similar ingredients for its recipe, and I wouldn't be surprised if Aphazel and co. were heavily influenced by the early Immortal stuff. The longer songs towards the middle of the album in particular feel like a response to "A Perfect Vision of the Rising Northland."
Hard to limit oneself to such a short list! For example, I'd throw in Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return to go with To Mega Therion (and if someone ever edits the cruft out of the album following it, that too).
It seems like it's very easy for these lists to balloon around particular albums. I was looking through Necroslaughter's list and saw that Amorphis EP, and I immediately thought about how I would have added their first full-length, as well as the two Abhorrence demos. The same could be said for the Varathron and Necromantia: I'd want to add the first Rotting Christ album, the second Necromantia full-length, and maybe even the first three Septic Flesh releases to show the perfection of the Hellenic black metal ideal.

However, the point of these lists is to get you thinking about which albums encapsulate particular strains of death metal/black metal thought most effectively, so I could understand maybe just listing the Black Arts Necromantia/Varathron split as the best introduction to what those bands were about. Hopefully, someone in the future sifting through the ashes of modern society and finding such a list with that split on it might be inspired to hear Septic Flesh, Rotting Christ, etc. after having listened to the CD. Luckily, there's enough room on my shelf for all of the classic Hellenic black metal albums!

Metal / Re: NWOBHM, Doom: Best Of
« on: June 29, 2013, 02:58:59 PM »
Pentagram? (haven't heard enough to recommend)
Pentagram is a great band, at least on the stuff I'm familiar with. Their first full-length is midpaced-to-speedy doom/heavy metal in the style of quicker Sabbath songs like "Symptom of the Universe." They seem to have put a lot of thought into what riff goes with what, which makes sense since parts of the songs had been bandied about by the band since their early '70s days as a more Cream-like heavy blues rock band. The song structures do that cool Sabbath Bloody Sabbath thing where they start out like they're going to be verse/chorus, but then take a turn towards narrative songwriting in their second half. The lo-fi production is thick, dark, and crunchy, which greatly enhances the atmosphere.
Their second album is even better, taking a turn towards both darker atmospheres and more progressive songwriting. They slow down the tempo to more of a crawl a lot of the time (probably because "doom metal" had become a more established series of tropes at this time with the rise of Saint Vitus and Candlemass), but they do a good job of keeping it from getting boring. There is a massive focus on intertwining dual guitar melodies this time around, as well as some more dynamic variation in the form of acoustic and undistorted guitar intros and segues. A lot of the songs feel quite layered and complex, with the aforementioned guitar melodies interacting with each other and the heavier riffs played "below" them in interesting ways. Perhaps a hidden precursor to stuff like diSEMBOWELMENT?
If you, like me for years, have been avoiding Pentagram for whatever reason, I would highly recommend those two albums.
Saint Vitus?
Saint Vitus has always been good, except perhaps on the C.O.D. album which many people point to as their sell-out album. I would suggest working through their discography chronologically from the S/T up through V, then pick up the the trail with Die Healing and the new full-length. The Dark Legions review does a good job of articulating what is cool about Saint Vitus.
Cathedral - FoE
The Soul Sacrifice EP and the second full-length are also worth listening to. They do a good job of picking up where Sabbath left off on their mid-'70s albums, when they started hanging out with the guys from Yes and moving towards more narrative songwriting and varied dynamics. After that, Cathedral gets a little bit too groovy fun-time for me.
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Their second album is also great, and quite under-recognized nowadays. I feel like most of their songs were written all around the same time, with the slower ones going to the debut and the quicker ones going to the sophomore, but I could be wrong.

I'd also recommend Manilla Road from Invasion up through The Courts of Chaos, with their crowning achievements being Crystal Logic, The Deluge, and Open the Gates. They started out as kind of a heavy metal response to Hawkwind, got a bit more power metally and epic, and then went more towards a speed/thrash direction, before synthesizing all of those approaches on their 1990 album and then breaking up.

Their early classic "Cage of Mirrors" does a good job of summing up why they're a great band. They're willing to take chances, and more concerned with communicating interesting musical ideas than with writing radio hits or "being metal." This song starts off with what I'd call the "Cage" motif before crashing into a 2112 era Rush-style set of heavy riffs. It goes back and forth through that cycle a few times, with both the light "Cage" parts and the heavy sections introducing new variations with each cycle. The way that the motifs and variations link up with the lyrics both in mood and actual storyline content reminds me a lot of Wagner, who I'm sure was an influence. The vocals and production take some getting used to, but in the end, they end up fitting the music quite well.

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