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Metal / Re: Hessian Lifestyles
« on: April 04, 2012, 10:32:51 AM »
Ideas associated with Max Weber? The ends get confused with the means. The means are still useful, but it is incredibly easy to become enslaved by them until nothing else matters, only making more and more money.

If you avoid this trap then money stays as a means, make enough of it and you freed from the monotony of a daily routine. Make too much and you risk losing yourself in a fantasy world not connected with any kind of reality whatsoever, aka film stars and the super rich.

Metal / Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
« on: March 31, 2012, 09:41:14 AM »
It just doesn't sound like Burzum anymore. That's not me whining about wanting another HLTO or anything, but it is a comment on the fact that I could be listening to anyone on that sample track. Belus was passable but didn't blow my mind, I gave it the benefit of the doubt given the pressure he was under. But this and Fallen I choose to see as coming from a completely different entity to the original Burzum.

Also, the more I listen to his new vocal style, both clean and distorted, I get increasingly annoyed by it, and that was one of the most glaring flaws in the re-recordings. I just couldn't listen to Spell of Destruction without the original maniacal screech.

Interzone / Re: Astral Projection
« on: March 31, 2012, 03:22:34 AM »

Metal / Re: Hipsters are destroying metal
« on: March 31, 2012, 03:22:12 AM »
I don't know about you, but my experience of ANUS outside of ANUS itself is not at all positive. I think any young bands with a hint of quality are more attracted to receiving acclaim from large magazines, TV channels etc. than any notion of being part of an intelligentsia or elite.

I think inclusion in the wider metal culture would be more appealing than becoming part of this small perception of what the underground was and could be again, especially when those who have heard of ANUS in the wider community speak critically about it. I'm not inviting a debate on why this site is shunned, and I am aware that among a growing number of musical academics this site is gaining respect. But in terms of grass roots musicians who need support and encouragement, I think superficially they will be more attracted by praise from magazines like Terrorizer and Metal Hammer than ANUS.

And I don't think it's the case that such bands are clearly not worth our time anyway. Musicians are often not aware of the reasons why their product may be praised, especially when it comes form this site. Much as I love the reviews here, I'm willing to bet that the majority of artists reviewed here would not understand what's being said about their work. Far better to be included in a wider community than be endorsed by what to most is some weird internet bogey man.   

Metal / Re: Doom metal
« on: March 29, 2012, 08:26:46 AM »
It's also not conducive for originality these days. People decide to start up a death metal band in the style of blah blah, or a black metal band in the style of blah. There's too much history the temptation to imitate it is too great and means that no one has their own identity any more.

Metal / Re: Doom metal
« on: March 28, 2012, 02:40:07 AM »
Where did the name for this genre arise, does it date all the way back to Black Sabbath?

Interzone / Re: What I hate about metal forums
« on: March 20, 2012, 08:57:12 AM »
A discussion starts. It has promise; content, even.

For example: "What bands made better albums at a time later in their careers?"

It reaches an apex and people find clear examples in the old school bands.

For example: Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Deceased and Megadeth.

And then in comes a stream of people, shambling and hiding behind their bullet belts and vest jackets, etc. who mention bands no one except a niche-clique cares about.

For example: "Oh, definitely CHRIST INSERTION and NECROBOMBAST. Maybe DOG OF THE APOCALYPSE. Yeah, that's the ticket."

It seems to me that's what crushes metal in general. Everyone must participate, and for that reason, they invent importance to music that is irrelevant drivel in the big picture.

Outside of the niche-clique, no one cares about your local bands, your novelties, and flavor of the week. This stuff is a self-referential group selling stuff to themselves. It reminds me of how the Western nations are now structured around a "consumer" population that seems oblivious to the fact that, outside of our fat-lazy prole-ocracies, Kesha and Jodi Piccoult are worthless drivel.

Exactly the reason why it's so impossible to discuss anything properly on the metal archives forum...I still lurk there though.

Metal / Re: Good electronic music
« on: March 20, 2012, 08:51:21 AM »
Throbbing Gristle?

Metal / Sorcier Des Glaces Snowland MMXII teaser
« on: March 08, 2012, 07:35:59 AM »

Seems to just be similar production to the most recent effort. I will probably get hold of this simply because the Purressence of Primitive Forests was a disappointment for me.

Metal / Re: Spam killing this forum
« on: February 24, 2012, 02:15:40 AM »
It's that or bring back the compost section; which I assume was removed because it took too much work to moderate.

The way I read it he wasn't even really attacking the kind of people that frequent this forum. There's the liberal, all inclusive view he's espousing, and there's the metalhead meat heads, uneducated and masculine, which he seems to be attacking, and then there's anus, which is neither of these things.

Metal / Re: A-list prole musik
« on: February 08, 2012, 01:13:19 PM »
Speaking on a much less esoteric level, most of the jazz posted here simply sounds like furniture music. The kind you use as a soundtrack to a cooking program.  Most other jazz I've heard is either just that or absolute, unlistenable randomness.

Interzone / Re: SOPA panic
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:08:02 AM »
I notice Metal Archives has joined in. For what it's worth, striking does brint this to a lot of people's attention who would otherwise have just ignored it at the bottom of a list of headlines. Aside from raising awareness this seems to be a total gimmick.

Metal / Re: Lost inheritances
« on: January 12, 2012, 07:26:53 AM »
I would be inclined to argue that in the case of Darkthrone, the albums widely agreed to be the best of the bunch were fluke. It's become more apparent with their recent output that all they ever wanted to be was an homage and just happened upon an original sound for a time.

In the case of Satyricon I'd argue that it's simply down to inferior creative capabilties. You may think that's a cope out answer but I never really thought they sounded that unique anyway.

Metal / Re: Lost inheritances
« on: January 10, 2012, 11:29:38 AM »
Another thought. Pretty much all the bands mentioned started out in a farely familiar style. Gorguts, Voivod, even Summoning's first was only a hint at the direction they would later take offering farely standard black metal. I remember Luc Lemay of Gorguts saying that this is often a necessary first step for any truly original artist. Beethoven started out sounding like Hadyn before he honed his own sound.

The problem seems to be that a band will find a unique sound and others will think 'we're going to play innovatitive music in the style of x blended with y'. This is just a contradiction. Either you end up playing innovative music or you immitate; the choice is yours but don't lie about what you're doing. Reading interviews from seminal bands one can see that they simply played the music that they loved and let it grow naturally into something unique. There's too much forcing it going.

And once these bands reach that creative peak they fizzle out because they too try to do the exact same thing again, rather than going back to the drawing board and letting things come naturally.

I would also agree that the music press is somewhat to blame. The excessive labelling leads to artists picking and choosing their own style (brand) and pushing that and nothing else.

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