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Interzone / Re: The Soul.
« on: April 14, 2012, 02:34:38 AM »
In what ways are American-brand evangelical Christianity and, for example, Buddhism comparable in their attitudes towards the ego?
Theoretically, if they were deriving their teachings from the Bible, then their attitudes would be similar.

"Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others." - Phillipians2:3-5

Unfortunately, I think many churches lose themselves to Christianity's greatest vice: Pride.

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Interzone / Re: The Soul.
« on: April 14, 2012, 01:26:29 AM »
What gets destroyed is the purpose the machine was designed for:
Interaction with reality, resulting in contribution to the whole.
Could it be said then that CPUs possess an inherently good quality? They are all designed for interaction with reality, which entails, as you say, making a contribution to the whole.

We just don't have the cultural framework in place for it to probably ever become more than a fringe idea, which is depressing.
What the hell are you talking about? Maybe in Europe, but in America, 80% of all people are religious. That means around 80% of all Americans have at the very least been exposed to self-denying philosophy, however crude or watered down it may be.

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Interzone / Re: Underclass
« on: April 14, 2012, 01:13:23 AM »
there was no plan, nor action ever carried out to "try to exterminate the Slavs."
False.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost


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Interzone / Re: The Soul.
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:34:28 PM »
How is it that the 'CPU' is neutral? In order for the virus to be destructive, does that not necessarily mean something desirable is getting destroyed?

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Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:29:16 PM »
Thanks for the commendations, dudes. I'm glad my post was found worthwhile.

I won't try to deny the fact that drugs, mainly hallucinogens and cannabis, can lead to profound planes of thought. But let it be known that much of the mental phenomena associated with drugs (ie fractal thoughts, examinations of self, everything becoming hysterical), can be achieved through spiritual discipline.

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Interzone / Re: Underclass
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:06:37 PM »
Didn't ditch its underclass -- Jews were actually as a whole one of the wealthier groups in Germany.
But they also tried to exterminate the Slavs, which ultimately caused them to get raped by Russia.

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Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 13, 2012, 05:13:45 PM »
Tralfamadorian, what is it about yourself that makes you feel incapable of using drugs while maintaining your duties?  I'm assuming it's a personal issue, because I find that drug use does nothing to diminish my ability to work for the benefit of those close to me (in fact, it enhances that ability, in some cases).  Or was it, perhaps, the kinds of drugs you enjoyed during that time?
I will admit, I have one of those personalities that is prone to addictive behavior.  I probably inherited it from my alcoholic paternal grandfather. This makes it difficult for me to control and regulate my usage of mind-altering substances. When I was only using marijuana (erryday), I was functional, but not anywhere close to my full potential. Its euphoric properties mad me self-satisfied, content with staying inside my shell. The quest for altered states that began with marijuana saw me graduate to harder drugs, which quite nearly fucked my life over. Being an all-or-nothing kind of guy, I decided to abandon drugs altogether.

 If was using marijuana at this point in my life, chances are I could successfully mange my work, school, and social responsibilities, but I would be schlepping it. Half-assing my work. That's just the effect it has on me. Furthermore, I do not only avoid marijuana just because it lowers my standards -- there is also the risk that using it would lead me to rationalize using hard drugs again. And finally, I really cannot see myself using drugs 10 years from now with a career and a family, so I might as well get into the habit of sobriety now.

I know it's not right to assume my personal experience applies to everyone. I've known a handful of chronic mj users who were high-achievers, but they seem to be the exception, not the rule. What's more is, of the small percentile of marijuana users I observed who weren't bunglers, maybe half of them I suspect were using the drug to mask emotional problems. You may very well be in that fraction of a fraction that just really likes to get stoned and still live a noble life, but can you really see yourself smoking up regularly in 5 years? 10?

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Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 13, 2012, 02:12:50 AM »
I'm not sure what revelatory experiences I am missing out on, but I am going to stick to the safe and sober route.
You're not missing anything.

When I was a boy, I had some great adventures with drugs. But I'm a man now, and men have responsibilities.

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Interzone / Re: Anti-Semitism
« on: April 11, 2012, 07:27:11 PM »
But it's stupid to blame them for all our problems. They have a part in it but the situation is much more complex then that.
Thank you. Wolfgang's playing with fire here blaming Jews for liberalism. That's like the burnout 20-something blaming his parents for his shit attitude. They may or may not have had an influence on it, but in the end, it's his attitude, and the decision ultimately rests with him as to how he composes it.

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Interzone / Re: What was 'God'?
« on: April 11, 2012, 07:22:47 PM »
God is what is
This makes sense. God is what remains when human perceptual filters and biases are removed.

"Anyone who seeks the truth seeks God, whether or not he realizes it." - St. Edith Stein

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Interzone / Re: Conspiracy theories
« on: April 11, 2012, 05:22:42 AM »
Yet "conspiracy theories" have no validity?
I never said that. Of course conspiracies are real. Gulf of Tonkin, MKULTRA, I have no doubts of their historical veracity.

Perhaps I should have been more clear: My post was about how 9/11 truth movement and anti-NWO Info-Wars type activism  is a waste of time.

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Say what you mean. You mean Zionism isn't real. Instead of some sweeping generalization that is empty talk, disprove it.
Another strawman. What exactly are you getting at? Please tell me the Protocols of the Elders of Zion isn't your starting point.

Naw, looking at the history of this nation since WWII is my starting point.

AJ and infowars, the 9/11 truth movement may have some flaws and rail against some things I am not as concerned about or may not be real, but otherwise those sites are great resources. What if we dismissed this place for the founder endorsing a mainstream republican platform while turning a blind eye to the regenerating metal underground sans a few local bands that he knows personally?

Like with anything else, gotta eat the shit to get to the corn.
Let's take a look at the first sentence of the first article I see on Infowars.

Quote from: Infowars
http://www.infowars.com/what-is-obamacare/

The US government can assassinate any US citizen that the executive branch thinks could possibly be a “threat” to the US government, or throw the hapless citizen into a dungeon for the rest of his or her life without presenting any evidence to a court or obtaining a conviction of any crime, or send the “threat” to a puppet foreign state to be tortured until the “threat” confesses to a crime that never occurred or dies at the hands of “freedom and democracy” while professing innocence.
Where's the evidence for these claims? And what does this have to do with Obamacare, supposedly the topic of the article? If this site could stop screaming "AMERICA IS A POLICE STATE OMG" into my ear for a second, perhaps I could glean some useful information.

What exactly does InfoWars say that you appreciate? Because I sure as hell can't see it.

Why do you beleive 9/11 was a conspiracy when all evidence points to the contrary?

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Interzone / Anti-Semitism
« on: April 11, 2012, 05:01:38 AM »
I think he has good ideas. One on one conversation is the best way you can change minds. In the last few weeks I have "converted" numerous people into being aware of the Zionist plot as it relates to cultural decay. Ron Paul websites are where it's at nillas.
Why is it the Zionist's fault our culture is in decline?

Most of the sweeping damaging changes have happened since the end of what war now? What was one of the major sticking points in that war?

They control or have significant influence in the following : the music industry, Hollywood, the TV industry, the news media, vast components of the financial sector, much of academia, evangelical Christianity, modern conservatism and liberalism. 

What else is wrong with society today if not these things.

It is as plain as the nose on their faces. ZING.
So all the rich, powerful Jews in the country form a secret cabal that seeks to stupefy us with propaganda and and push a pro-Israel agenda?

You actually think the crappy movies/tv/music/academic literature they make/promote are actually designed to make us degenerate? Like, they're not just stupid because that's what the public wants, but there's a specific ill-will involved?

This whole thing sounds like an escape to me.  A fantasy.

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Interzone / Re: Conspiracy theories
« on: April 11, 2012, 04:51:14 AM »
Yet "conspiracy theories" have no validity?
I never said that. Of course conspiracies are real. Gulf of Tonkin, MKULTRA, I have no doubts of their historical veracity.

Perhaps I should have been more clear: My post was about how 9/11 truth movement and anti-NWO Info-Wars type activism  is a waste of time.

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Say what you mean. You mean Zionism isn't real. Instead of some sweeping generalization that is empty talk, disprove it.
Another strawman. What exactly are you getting at? Please tell me the Protocols of the Elders of Zion isn't your starting point.

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Interzone / Re: Conspiracy theories
« on: April 11, 2012, 04:14:56 AM »
Cracking down on lobbyists and insisting on open books so we know who the moneys are coming from? You mean it seems impossible or there's no political will?
That was cynical of me. It's not impossible; of course we can enact legislation that mitigates the influence of money on our leaders. That comment was lamenting ancient times when leaders rose to prominence through action instead of how much symbolic value they possessed.

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Interzone / Re: Conspiracy theories
« on: April 11, 2012, 03:47:18 AM »
If someone steals from you - was it a conspiracy, or just theft?
Are you implying the political and economic elite are committing theft against the average citizen? If so, please explain.

If not... well, come to think of it, the last of my chocolate milk was missing this morning. The Illuminati must have infiltrated my family :(

It is one thing to say that there is a pattern in global socio-geo politics and economics wherein the poor are suppressed, the elite are privileged, and propaganda is perpetuated in order to maintain the status quo, and it is another thing entirely to suggest that a handful of people are at the helm of this pattern of affairs, deliberately directing it. That's what's so insidious about it--the pattern is part of you as well. Nevertheless, some actors in this play are more powerful than others.
The troubling part about the whole thing is these people--the Rockafellers and Soroses of the world--aren't in positions of power because they're good at leading people. They're just good at making money. How are we to make foolproof power structures without making money irrelevant? It seems impossible.

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