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De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is one of my favorite albums of all time. To me it sounds like Celtic Frost meets Immortal. DMDS has droning, ritualistic passages(Celtic Frost) interspersed with fast war-like anthems(Immortal). Mayhem definitely composes melodies better than Immortal. Immortal's songs have a sound concept, and I can see what they were going for, but I think their melodies failed to truly conjure the emotions they were meant to. Mainly DMDS differs from Pure Holocaust in that there are no "beautiful" passages and there is no cheesiness. This is a serious album while Immortal seems to have never taken themselves too seriously. This is why I view that album as unique: the album has only one goal, sticks to it, and remains interesting. I also think that a good portion of the album can be classified as ambient. Attempts at ambient black metal have mostly been failures whereas this album succeeds. Mostly the album is just very well-executed. There are no unnecessary elements. Everything was thought through and every element has a purpose and masterfully executed. There's something weird in the drumming in the album too, but I don't know what it is. Whatever it is, I love it. The only complaint I've heard of the album is the singing. I used to hate it and thought it was effects on a crappy singers voice. Then I found out that Attila was throat-singing and "understood" the singing. When you view it as throat-singing, the vocals don't sound crappy at all, just a different style. You have to understand that it's not a crappy attempt at black metal vocals; it's something completely different that happens to resemble black metal vocals. My personal criticism is that the songs could've had more well-developed songs. On the album, long passages would go by repeating the same riff and they'll just change the drumming pattern to make it sound like the song is developing, but it's still just the same riff. I guess it demonstrates that the emotion of a melody depends on the context. Since this is one of the defining albums of black metal, if they had composed more complicated melodies, perhaps later black metal acts would have sought to out do them rather than playing the same simplistic riffs like nearly all black metal bands use. I think I'll stop here. It's definitely a good album and important, though I think the impact of this album wasn't as great as that of the other classics.
many of the most revered figures in music could barely read music, and a great number possessed no classical training in music composition; those facts don't automatically detract from my enjoyment of their work, nor does it lessen my interest in understanding the mechanics of what they did.
I didn't say anything about the quality of the music. I just explained the process behind it.
Here's your problem - most Metal is crap.
The OP didn't specify good metal. Even then, the majority of the best artists have little theory behind their music. They just pick up a guitar and play whatever comes out.
Conscious adherence to theory produces craft, not art.
Compositions that emerge organically are the ones that resonate on the deepest levels.
This is verifiably wrong on both counts.
My feeling is that there is no theory behind most metal. In general each song is just a mashup of random riffs they came up with by playing random notes on their guitars strung together by shifts in drumming patterns. Many people here like to pretend that's not true.
This made me laugh so hard. I havent laughed so hard all day. Where does Prozak come up with this stuff? This is sharp.
I sent it to one of my 'friends' (who needs them) and it was a total mindfuck for him. Over facebook chat he said "holy shit. I have been wasting my life having fun at parties" he proceeded to spend the rest of the day creating last.fm accounts writing on the forums about how Killswitch Engage fans should EAT DICK. And as we speak he is creating an account on this forum and intends to quote a news article then write a paragraph about how the populist dogma and equality explains everything about why the world is so bad and overpopulated. The reasoning is simple, he says.
As an aside, thanks for posting the link, I or the anus forums wouldnt have found it otherwise. I didnt think anus was still being updated?
Unprecedented levels of sarcasm.
Seems to confuse cause and effect. Kids aren't depressed because they use the computer too much, they use the computer too much because they're depressed/rejected.
No, that's what the surveys were for. They were not depressed until later. You made the common liberal mistake of ignoring all the evidence and replacing it with your "correct" opinion.
I have a theory as to why the internet causes depression. The longer you are on the internet, the more likely you will stumble upon the ANUS(it's only a matter of time before everyone types anus into google). Confronting reality has been a known cause of depression for millennia.
I'd like to clarify that he's criticizing serialism, which is a technique used in modern classical music, but not all modern classical uses serialism. The theory behind it was to create truly atonal music. ANUS members always praise metal for it's atonal nature. This study can "prove" that metal sucks. His conclusions of the studies are absolutely nonsensical. I can't see how anybody would agree with the conclusion that music is only enjoyable if it's predictable. Not everyone in the world is a Pantera fan.
« on: August 03, 2010, 08:58:33 PM »
Since when do metalheads get laid? It only works if you're in a band.
I think a lot of people associate vikings with Europe rather than Scandinavia. This mistake can allow every wimpy white kid to think they have a little viking in them and convince themselves that they're actually powerful and fearsome. The black metal community is not immune to viking syndrome.