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Interzone / Re: An important book
« on: May 29, 2013, 05:21:59 AM »
Explaining why something is important is the fun part of communicating something important - both for the reader and the writer. Please share thoughts.

Dylar: You have a point. But I would still like to know what sort of thoughts The Antichrist set in motion in the head of a 14 year-old.

Nietzsche is a fantastic-, but also a tricky thinker, I think. One can easily be let to believe that he says things that he really doesn't. Especially his later works are very susceptible to projections from the reader.

Interzone / Re: Goodnight sweet Europe
« on: May 29, 2013, 05:13:25 AM »
I understand your perspective.

Europe is a lost cause as a grand universalist ideal.

But there is also another Europe. One that lives in the herbs and roots. Maybe even still in a few hearts and minds. That's the real one.

It's not some sentimental fantasy, like the European 'idea'. It's just something worth fighting for. A special sense of love/order/intelligence. Almost all have forgotten that this Europe exists at all. But it's still here, whether we remember it or not.

Interzone / Re: The student and the teacher.
« on: May 29, 2013, 04:08:38 AM »
Interesting. Monotheists are rare around these parts.

I stand divided on the question of Islam: On the one hand, I don't want Islam here in europe. It doesn't belong here, and it's bad for the culture. But on the other, the Qu'ran is one of my favourite spiritual texts.

Even though I am more of a Christian myself, I wholly recognize the Qu'ran as words from the abrahamic God. Islam definitely has a living core of truth. I guess this makes me a heretic in the eyes of many (so-called) Christians. But you have to acknowledge when you hear something real.

I could never become a muslim though. I will recognize the truth of the religion, but I will forever remain master of my own worship, so to speak. I serve my God as I must.

Still, Islam teaches many things that we europeans could learn a great deal from. First and foremost: Ruthlessness towards unbelievers. That is: If you believe, and you know in your heart and mind that what you believe is right and real, you have the God-given right to fight against those, who seek to destroy it. The end result will reveal if you were in the right.

We europeans have a problem with immigrants because we have become an impotent bunch. We no longer feel any living truth in the enlightenment-ideals we claim to believe in. And so we've become effeminate pushovers.

My understanding of an unbeliever: Someone who doesn't really believe the things, he claims to believe. Someone calling on the gods strictly when it is to his own advantage. Someone who doesn't stand up for what he believes in, but escapes into mindless doctrine. A liberal.

Interzone / Re: Goodnight sweet Europe
« on: May 27, 2013, 01:44:21 PM »
Personally I would say it's more like the other way around: Life is lovely in practice, less lovely as an ideal. And I wouldn't even really say that.

No, that's not life in a nutshell. A nut is life in a nutshell.

Why do you think that life in a nutshell is: 'Lovely as an ideal, less lovely in practice?'

Interzone / Re: Goodnight sweet Europe
« on: May 27, 2013, 11:18:25 AM »
Life is infinitely many things - including beautiful and a lost cause. But the beautiful is not necessarily a lost cause, just as the lost causes aren't necessarily beautiful. Multiculturalism is a lost cause, and it is not a beautiful one.

Interzone / Re: Blah-Blah.
« on: May 27, 2013, 11:09:04 AM »
Coming from the unenlightened, 'Retard' is a kingly title :) 

Interzone / Re: Blah-Blah.
« on: May 27, 2013, 10:13:05 AM »
Slam death metal limericks! (SDML!)

I see a new genre coming.

Interzone / An important book
« on: May 27, 2013, 04:45:06 AM »
What is the most important book you've ever read? Try to pick just one, and then explain why. Not necessarily the best or the most perfect, but the one that has spoken to your awareness with greatest profundity.

I have read many great books, but picking the one that had the greatest influence on me really isn't that hard. It's Arthur Schopenhauers The world as Will and Representation.

I got it for my 18th birthday. It was the first book of real philosophy I ever read, and it was a hard-, sometimes frustrating read. Took me a long time to finish. I had to read many passages twice or thrice, and there was still a lot of things I didn't quite get the first time around.

But I was determined to get through it. I had to understand it. It seemed to me incredibly important for me to understand it. Such was its power.

In a way, this book made me feel very stupid - but at the same time, it encouraged me not to be. It encouraged me to learn.

Dicovering Schopenhauer-, the beauty, subtlety and incredible thoroughness of his thought was an eyeopener. Here, I heard a voice of real wisdom. Something entirely different from the mindless chatter of an everyday understanding. Here was someone who understood. Someone who didn't just pretend to know, but actually knew.

Knew what? That there is a profound difference between the world as it appears, and as it truly is. That the appearances can be known and understood through reason, but that reality isn't reasonable in itself (or unreasonable, for that matter). That wisdom is the proper understanding of the divide. That there is always something we know and something we don't know. That there must always be a reason for every concrete thing we know - but that there can never be a reason why we know as such.


We know things. But we don't know everything. For everything is nothing to be known. Life lies way way beyond the intellect - and true intelligence is to know this.

Also, Schopenhauer has a wicked sense of humor.

Yes, as far as influencing my own thinking of the world, The World as Will and Representation stands head and shoulder above the rest. There is only one true competitor: The collected Calvin and Hobbes. But that's a another story.

Now, tell me yours.

Interzone / Re: Goodnight sweet Europe
« on: May 27, 2013, 03:51:22 AM »
In the grand scheme of things, there is no such thing as 'disaster'. But from the perspective of a sane individual, this is just stupid. The multicultural society is a lost cause - even immigrants are starting to see this. Maybe this escape back to Somalia will set a positive example.

A disaster is only a true disaster, if it can't inspire the beginning of something better.

Interzone / Re: Blah-Blah.
« on: May 27, 2013, 03:36:53 AM »
Ah, I see. I did notice a certain swing reading you blah-blah. Now it makes sense :)

Nonsense with a certain swing to it is the beginning of reason. It lies at the root. Magnificent, majestic things grows from it. Yggdrasil.

Interzone / Re: The student and the teacher.
« on: May 27, 2013, 03:25:56 AM »
You are an astute observer. I have made understanding my ideal in life, or rather life seems to point me towards understanding, like the needle of a compass: As there is always the balance of north and south, likewise knowledge and ignorance are in perfect equilibrium. Something I'm gradually coming to realize as a seeker.

The crow makes a profound point. Making sense of mystery is a maddening task. For mystery in turn makes nonsense out of sense. This realization lies at the heart of all profound wisdom.

Are you by any chance a muslim, Saif al-Malik? Or am I just assuming, because you have an Arabic-sounding name?

Interzone / Re: Blah-Blah.
« on: May 26, 2013, 02:56:25 PM »
lost wanderer: I like your tree. Says more than most words ever could.

Interzone / Re: Blah-Blah.
« on: May 26, 2013, 02:53:48 PM »
That is just plain nonsense. But I react to the nonsense, even though it would have made more sense for me not to. That is my choice, and there is no reason for it. After all: If there was a reason, then the nonsense wouldn't be nonsense in the first place.

Being as I react to the nonsense, I choose my words. And for every choice I make, and for every word I write, I leave out a potential infinity of other words, that could have been.

Now, I leave the door open for others to respond to me. If anyone chooses to do so, they will not just react to the original nonsense, but also to my reaction to the nonsense. Why did I choose to react as I did? Was it right, wrong or indifferent? Did i 'get it' at all? After all, I could have reacted in a potential infinity of ways. But I didn't. I reacted like this.

Thus reason appears. Reason needs no reason outside itself. Reason just is. Or is it?


Interzone / Re: The Devil and Philosophy
« on: May 26, 2013, 11:27:55 AM »
This could be interesting.


Interzone / Re: What are you like?
« on: May 26, 2013, 11:27:02 AM »
Simply being. Not like this or that. This is unlike everything.

Simply being, one can say: 'None are equal', and understand that inequality is a beautiful thing. For it is nothing but the pure and simple truth. It is simply being unlike.

Most will tremble with fear faced with this pure and simple truth. Why? Because it strips them naked of their likes. And being like something- or someone else is the only thing that they are. Simple as that.

In reality most people aren't anything like what they think they are like. They just like to think that. They simply are in nothing but thoughts. Take their likes away from them, and they would vanish into thin air.

They are 'like, whatever man...'

On the other hand: To be unlike the majority. To be unlike the equals. To be simple, pure and real. That is beautiful. That I like.

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