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Interzone / The student and the teacher.
« on: May 26, 2013, 03:09:11 AM »
Where most have no soul, and many have one, I in fact have two.

One is older than time and space. It is infinitely wise. It's perfect. The other is very young. It is inexperienced, and it's clumsy as hell.

My souls are polar opposites. But they are also inseparable as night and day.

Some people can talk all day about how there is no 'I'. That ego is an illusion. But if you look at their actions, they still behave as if ego is the ultimate reality.

Others claim 'I' to be the only reality. But their actions and thoughts are still part of something grander. Something beyond their own control.

I can beleive in neither. Cause when you get down to it, I am not an I. I am a We. I am the communication between my two souls. Whether I am closer to the one soul or the other is entirely dependent on the context.

Some will see me as young, naive, maybe even a bit stupid. And that's okay - because I am that.

But I am also the voice of reality's infinite perfection.

You can communicate with both souls. Some will only see one. Some will see them both. I am both. There is no contradiction unless you want to see one.

Interzone / Re: To Civilize or not to Civilize...
« on: May 24, 2013, 03:14:33 AM »
It's never stupid to ask questions. Especially not when I speak in such broad and unspecific terms.

The two 'types' are generalizations of private experiences. Often (maybe even more often than not) they can co-exist side by side within the same person. Have you ever met such 'split' personalities, where you feel sympathy for one side of their character, while at the same time greatly disliking another?

I've often found that I can relate to a lot of people on a one to one-basis. At first they put up a 'civilized' front, and talk about social theory, modern literature or entertainment-products of various sorts (yes, I am a university-student), but if I meet them with the right attitude - no hostility, and no condescension, even though I find their talking-points to be vapid trash - if I ask the right questions, and if I truly listen to what they're saying, and react to this,, then some non-superficial humanity gradually starts to show.

They reveal themselves to be 'gentle barbarians/primitives' lost in a hyper-complicated world, that they truly don't understand. The civilized front is just a means of covering up this underlying, and for many people shameful reality, but once they realize that I do not judge them, they start to relax and open up.

Good talking-points with such people are: Relationships/love, childhood memories, hopes/fears for the future etc.

The 'barbarian of civilization' is, on the other hand, always to be found in social settings. They are the 'bros' of humanity, always reveling in hedonistic excess. On a one to one-basis I find such people downright impossible to communicate with. They are the fiercely materialistic types, only able to think and speak of pussy, drink/drugs, and - themselves. They don't have any soul. There is nothing to relate to.

These people will insist that they are just living life by their own law, that they are unbound by the bourgeois morality of society, that they are just doing what everybody wants to do deep down inside and other such nonsense. In actual fact, they are themselves the purest product of a degenerate society, unable to see that they are in chains, forever isolated from any real connection to the world, other people and reality as such.

As I said: There isn't necessarily any sharp divide between the two types. Often the first type can be seen 'escaping into' (that is: Turning into) the second once under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

It's a perplexing phenomenon, and I can't really find an explanation for it. Fear is probably the most likely cause. People are generally desperate to escape the vapid emptiness of modern society, but they have to put on a facade in fear of the judgments of others. They don't want to be seen as weak - and ironically, this is their greatest weakness.

Some people can be brought to realize this, and others can not.

Lengthy post. Hope it explains more than it confuses!

Interzone / Re: Uber-elite.
« on: May 23, 2013, 06:04:43 PM »
Thank you! It's a real honour hearing that from you, crow. I try to pay attention.

Reality always recognizes Reality as its own. A thing of wonder to the real person. :)

Interzone / Re: To Civilize or not to Civilize...
« on: May 23, 2013, 05:55:48 PM »

The idea that we don't know what to prepare for is a troubling one indeed, 03-04.

We as a society need to step back and re-assess our priorities. Perhaps a catastrophe is what it may take...hopefully not....

There is nothing to do, but to keep a level head. Then, we'll hopefully be able to act in the right way, when it is time for action. Until then, we wait and sharpen our awareness.

If all hell really breaks loose at some point - and yes: Hopefully this won't happen, but if it does - I imagine total, instinctive awareness of the underlying causes to be the best means of survival. The great mass of humanity will probably end up concerning themselves with 'who's to blame?', and so be very susceptible to bad leadership, lynch mobs, riots and other acts of panic. This is what we don't want to get caught up in. Meeting chaos with delusion spells certain doom.

With an understanding of reality, we'll be able to identify the sane ones amidst the chaos. We'll know who to group with, and work with. We'll recognize good leadership. Sharp awareness of reality could become crucial.

I speculate... But what else to do, when nobody really knows?

Interzone / Re: Uber-elite.
« on: May 23, 2013, 05:29:07 PM »
Living the situation before you think it.

Thinking is a devilish subtle thing. It has its use, but not as often as you might think. It's good if you have to solve a complicated problem - but most of the time, reality isn't a complicated problem. So why would want to treat it as such?

Thinking is a sort of doing. It's a reaction to reality. If you always think before you act, you end up interacting with your own reaction to reality, instead of interacting with reality itself. That's ego.

Ego is placing oneself in the center. It's the 'human mistake' par excellence: Acting as if reality is limited to what 'I' think it is. Many are so used to this, that they don't even notice doing it. It's a bad habit, and sadly, it makes bad company out of the greater part of humanity.

Reality, on the other hand, is unlimited. It can never be fully thought through. It is greater than anyone could ever imagine. If you keep thinking otherwise, you'll miss out on all its wonders.

So just forget about everything else, and join Reality. It's loads of fun, and it's totally free!


Metal / Re: Emotions vs. the longing for them
« on: May 23, 2013, 08:27:40 AM »
Wouldn't you say that longing for something (an ideal, for example) is an emotion as well?

Pop-music doesn't express such a longing-emotion. It creates an empty space, for the listener to project his own emotions into. It's not about what the 'artist' wants to express, but about what the listener wants to hear. You get sort of an emotional experience out of it, but it's a superficial one, because you don't have to work for it. You don't have to actually listen to the music, you just have to 'feel it'.

Does that make any sense? It's like the difference between working for true happiness, and snorting a line of coke, because you want true happiness now! Both will get you happiness, but one is lasting and substantial (it connects with reality outside your head), while the other is short and superficial (it's just your brain on a stimulant).

Interzone / Re: Dumb-ass!
« on: May 23, 2013, 08:06:28 AM »
Cheer up, Corpse.

I'm the one who gave you a Wikipedia-link in the thread about archery - a classic dumb-ass move!

It's not about never feeling like a dumb-ass. Not about never acting like a dumb-ass either. It's about recognizing when you act- and why you feel like a dumb-ass, and then start working on not being one.

This is what the real dumb-ass is incapable of.

The real dumb-ass is one all to capable of pointing out the mistakes of others, while claiming never to have made one himself. He claims to know, without having experienced.

What a dumb-ass!

Interzone / Re: Dumb-ass!
« on: May 22, 2013, 02:25:36 PM »
The real dumb-ass doesn't even try to be like the other dumb-asses - he just is.

He probably tries to 'just be himself' - which is exactly what makes him like all the others.

For a long time, there was nothing I wanted more than to be normal. I felt very socially awkward, and just wanted to feel at home among my peers. Little did I realize, that they were all trying not to be normal. That being normal was indeed something they feared more than anything else.

I never managed to fit in, of course. I was trying to be everything they feared to be - while at the same time actually being what they wanted to be. That was a strange realization!

Interzone / Re: To Civilize or not to Civilize...
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:07:07 PM »
Never heard Hellbastard before. That was cool. Thanks, Humanicide.

Interzone / Re: Dumb-ass!
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:02:05 PM »
The REAL dumb-ass, that's who! Not some dumb-ass-pretender...
Now where's my remotecontrol...?

Interzone / Re: Why do people disagree?
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:44:23 AM »
I think a lot of people agree and disagree on 'issues' because if they didn't, they wouldn't know what to make of their time. They would have to actually do something, instead of engaging in debate.

The issue of 'free' debate (freedom of expression) is huge where I come from - home of the famed Mohammad-cartoons. I think a lot of people like to participate in this ongoing debate, because it makes them feel as if 'freedom of expression' actually means something in itself. As if voicing your opinion is the same as being free.

Let me give you a summary of the debate: All agree that freedom of expression is important. But some think we have it, while others think we don't. And so the discussion goes on and on. Both sides think that talking about it will bring us closer to a solution - but the only thing they actually talk about, is whether there is a problem or not.

If you can't agree on the problem, the solution never becomes an issue. The 'debate' can go on forever.

I think the core of the issue is this: We feel less free - so we have to talk about it all the more. And we have to talk about it, because we can conceive of no other way of making ourself free.

Went a bit off topic there. Sorry

Interzone / Re: To Civilize or not to Civilize...
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:07:40 AM »
The strange thing about equality is, that the more havoc it reeks, the more people want it. All the disastrous results of equality are systematically understood as problems of inequality, and so the people demand more equality. It's a cancer for the cure.

I guess we need a total breakdown of the current mainstream social 'reality' (egalité, fraternité, solidarité) before we can move on to something more healthy. Sooner or later, all egalitarian systems are bound to fail, as they are in fundamental discord with reality. In the end, civilization will be left in the hands of those, who actually know how to civilize, not those who are best able to convince the masses, but have no understanding of reality.

Indeed we seem to be in the middle of a gigantic process of change.

I wonder how much destruction of the beautiful, ordered and intelligent we have to see before some robust, properly civilized behavior (on more than an individual or a small group scale) starts to show. Until then, I guess there's nothing to do but endure and prepare - even though it is impossible to know exactly what to prepare for.

Still, it's painful to see all the stupidity and destruction.

Interzone / Re: Like an everflowing stream
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:31:57 AM »
What's a fearful discussion anyway?
I think it's one where truth is viewed as less important than how people react emotionally to ideas. Arguing with a leftist: if you say something that don't agree with, they view it as a personal attack and proof you're an uncaring hitler-like monster.

Ah, I see. Ego-tripping disguised as intellectual discussion. I never thought of that as particularly fearful, but perhaps you are right. I don't think liberals fear the dangerous ideas as much as they fear the thought that they could be in the wrong, though.

Not furry, but I like ducks! Beautiful colors. Nothing brings me peace of mind like sitting alone by a lake watching the ducks, listening to the QUACKs.

Interzone / Re: Introspection.
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:09:14 AM »
The greatest benefit of introspection is becoming aware of your own way of processing reality. You start to see the difference between what reality is, and what your own processing (interpretation) of reality is. Once you start to see the (often profound) difference, you can begin to interact with reality as it is, instead of just interacting with your own interpretation of reality.

If you are able to seriously doubt whether you have a soul, then you certainly have one! "Doubt is the beginning, not the end of wisdom."

I know I have a soul, but I'm not quite sure what that means yet.

Interzone / Re: Like an everflowing stream
« on: May 21, 2013, 03:12:38 PM »
I try :)

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