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ARE YOU TALKIN TO ME? = most overrated band in Speed Metal
Dead Kennedys = most overrated band in Punk
Cradle of Filth = most overrated band in Black Metal
Wow, they've got more in common than I thought.
Dimmu Borgir = 2nd most overrated band in Black Metal
Satyricon = 3rd most overrated band in Black Metal
I could go on forever...
Quorthon was an idiot. The only good album was The Return, and he had to be drunk to record it. He was only dark and evil when he was drunk, and a rock and roll star when he was sober.
"Dark and Evil" huh? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
The Return was a very good album, make that a brilliant album, but it was definitely not Quorthon's only good album. Blood Fire Death and the debut are albums in which Quorthon created some of the best music ever written.
Of course, I understand that you have a different opinion (Bathory was never everybody's cup of tea)
,but the whole "dark and evel when drunk" and "rock and roll star when sober" regarding Quorthon
does not make sense. In fact, it's just plain bullshit.
college is a waste of time in my opinion. nothing like college to show you just how purposeless life is.
Don't you mean how purposeless modern life is?
(By "modern life" I mean the life which majority of humans currently live, i.e. go to work, buy plastic crap, watch T.V., have hollow sex, repeat cycle of degeneracy, etc.)
Or do you actually feel that life is inherently puposeless?
In a word, no. If you think classical music is anywhere near as simple as metal music you're sorely mistaken. I don't say this because I'm any kind of capable classical music listener, but because I know what I don't know.
I wasn't suggesting that classical music was as simple as metal music. To suggest this would be tantamount to idiocy. I was merely suggesting that there is a link between classical music and metal music, at least some metal music, i.e. excellent metal music.
I fully acknowledge that classical music is quite complicated whereas just about anybody can make metal music. However, only certain people can make exceptional metal. Darkthrone, Burzum and the like (not as in similar but as in of similar quality) spring to mind, just as only certain people can compose (Beethoven, Wagner et al), conduct (Karajan, Furtwangler et all) and perform (Berlin, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestras et al) brilliant classical music.
I know you disagree. You stated your position and I stated mine in opposition to yours. Naturally you're going to disagree with someone who has just directly opposed you. Of course it's going to be different for different people too.
For my part. I find massive symphonies like indigestible for the sheer amount of stuff that's going on. The music is highly evolved, and a new listener isn't going to grasp half of what is transpiring across a sympony, whereas with chamber music the components are much more visible, and the interrelations lucid. Then one can apply this learned ear to more difficult arrangements.
Correction. You stated your opinion and then I stated mine in opposition to yours. Perhaps you were referring to the post made by Nikolai_Fokov?
I see where you're coming from though. Symphonies are pretty complicated and highly evolved pieces of music. First time listeners could b overwhelemed by the inticacies (which they probably wouldn't notice anyway) of the music.
But wouldn't an experienced metal listener be able to appreciate Symphonies and understand the components of the music, at least somewhat, even if he/she is a first time listener, given the relationship between metal and classical music?
As I've said elsewhere, and contra to the previous poster, I found symphonies the least helpful when getting into classical. I took the avenue of smaller ensembles, particularly chamber music.
I disagree. I started with Beethoven's symphonies and I am very much "into" classical music. I deeply appreciate the beauty of classical music.
Then again it might be different for others. I'd like to know why you think symphonies are not a good starting point for someone listening to classical music for the first time.