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Chasm / Re: The appeal of this place
« on: December 03, 2011, 07:34:11 PM »Why do people come here?
Lack of alternatives. There are other places where spirit is preserved above other interests as it is here. It is not exceptional, except for metal.
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Metal / Re: Obnoxiously Great Gothenburg Metal: THE ABYSS
« on: December 03, 2011, 06:53:35 PM »I've listened to this a couple of times, and it sounds quite boring and generic, with several corny moments thrown in. Is this bands music really worth listening to?
The Other Side is definitely worth listening to. Listen beyond elements of cheese/overemotionality to appreciate it; although I don't share your impression. It's not a groundbreaking work, but it's very good.
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Chasm / Re: Most European-Americans are probably not aristocrats
« on: December 02, 2011, 04:15:56 PM »cause my chops are unbustable.
The best of both worlds! A tiny dick and a misplaced sense of superiority!
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Chasm / Re: Most European-Americans are probably not aristocrats
« on: December 02, 2011, 02:01:07 AM »
Gigantic Egos at War in the Northland
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Chasm / Re: Nihilist films.
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:47:10 PM »This list basically just demonstrates why films are not worth spending time on, none of those films were works of art worthy of standing beside any great works in traditional mediums. Film is an inherently spiritually corrupt mode of expression.
There is thought provoking and expanding imagery in quite a few films. I don't disagree that the vast amount is execrable, but this is true of other pursuits as well, including metal. Blade Runner may suffer from a third rate narrative, but the vision is inspired art. Similarly, Se7en may be a puerile piece of trash to some, but it undoubtedly contains elements of darkness and beauty and is a reflection of the world as much as any other art.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - Belus
« on: November 29, 2011, 03:26:57 PM »Similar is not "the same", and I'm saying you're wrong where we differ. This is called "debate".
In that particular regard, I am saying the same thing. Can you please identify exactly where the disagreement is stemming from?
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A good man who commits one evil deed in his life is automatically evil?
A man who does not then recognize his evil deed as evil is yes, automatically evil. He would not then be a good man.
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Where do we see this?
In history and the world around us. Nothing of value emerges from those who take up the banner of Nazism because the prime motivation is flawed. Do you disagree that it is flawed? That it is negative and pernicious? Is that where the disagreement lies? Something of value could possibly emerge I guess, and if it did it would be accepted.
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Metal / Re: Paradise Lost/Vallenfyre
« on: November 29, 2011, 02:19:24 PM »
Subtle and mature certainly (more so than other recent releases), and it makes me optimistic for the future but a lot of A Fragile King is merely tolerable. The compositional technique that you mention in your post is employed in such a reductionist manner (to make it easier? I don't know) that it is detrimental to the quality in my listening. A lot of the riffs are the low end of reasonable. Structure varies little, and is usually content to circle around like a washing machine before ending the cycle in variation. Oftentimes, going through this album is a series of meh's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ItcaJ37Fs <-- relating to the circumstances behind the band/album as mentioned in the above post, from the horse's mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ItcaJ37Fs <-- relating to the circumstances behind the band/album as mentioned in the above post, from the horse's mouth.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - Belus
« on: November 29, 2011, 01:56:35 PM »Do we say that Environmentalism is bad because it's part of Hippie ideology, and they fuse it with their entire retard worldview? No, we extract whatever good may have come from the Hippie influence and move on.
I'm saying similar things. We do call hippies bad. Nazism and Nazis are similarly bad. No? Pragmatism would not simply be taking the best, but also a rejection of the worst. We see that Nazism leads to nothing, so take what is of value from it and then bury it with other failures. Am I saying something different from the quoted?
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Metal / Re: Burzum - Belus
« on: November 29, 2011, 02:39:44 AM »Nazism is not that. In fact, everything it touches turns to waste. Once people step into the mindset of viewing life by race-only, all becomes skewed to that obsession.
I stopped reading here. What the fuck is this? This anti-Nazism crap is total and utter bollocks, primarily because YOU'RE ONLY FOCUSING ON ONE FUCKING PART OF THEIR PLATFORM. Talk about hypocricy. "Oh, they're racits!!1!1, so we're going to ignore ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that they've ever said or supported".
I apologise for seeming slightly angered by the vacuity of your post, but the quality is so totally absent that I cannot help but feel a righteous fury.
What I have understood: there may be truths in Nazism, but when the primary viewpoint is race everything is viewed through that perspective. It colors perception to the point that reality is abandoned, (despite vociferous claims of actually representing reality), leading to actions without benefit, or actions that are directly harmful. The rule should be; ignore nothing, but reject mindsets that obscure the truth or that can never truly be practical (perhaps a definition of irrationality in a way?). Whatever answers Nazism may have, as personal politics it is worthless. Is this not supported by history (post WW2)? By just looking at fucking Stormfront and seeing a morass of idiocy and negativity that is accepted because it is palatable to the mindset? Hatred at the expense of the intellect and pragmatism.
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There is some value in pure memorization. Understanding and realization cannot occur without absorbing knowledge first; something learned by rote may later contribute to deeper understanding (e.g. learning times tables, dates in history etc.). But if this is all that's going on at a high school level that's kind of shit, yeah. Anyway, if you're currently having exams, best of luck.
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Chasm / Re: wisdom and the lack thereof - a philosophical or spiritual matter?
« on: November 29, 2011, 12:52:46 AM »You're arguing that a retarded person, given enough years in excellent music classes, is highly likely, thanks to neural plasticity, to be the next Vivaldi? This is biologically credible?
I am not saying a retard can produce a work of genius. I find the other extreme just as silly. A person with actual mental defect would lack too much of the platform you mentioned. To become the next Vivaldi, merely excellent music classes would not suffice; but a cultivation of a similar creative spirit. There is an element of genius there as well, which could not be cultivated. Cargést expressed it well. As an aside, is it really that hard to believe some initially tin-eared dumbass could produce music of worth?
In any case, the example of music was chosen because it occured first, to illustrate the effect. The effect is fact. I don't deny that heredity plays a role, it may even play an important role, but to consider it an absolute is just flipping liberal dogma over and should be rejected. The specific point was a rejection of this statement: "the effectiveness of these extrinsic inputs would be limited by the neural platform itself." Since the platform is itself alterable, provably so, how do you resolve this? Please clarify.
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Commerce / Re: Burzum - From the Depths of Darkness
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:59:46 PM »How is it the opposite of polished? I meant it in the sense of being so tightened and "perfected" that it lost all of the original character (i.e. the "sensitivity" of it, as you put it). Vikernes specifically left the mistakes he made during recording in the music, the first time round, and it's those little imperfections which make the result seem more real/organic than this mechanised crap.
Since this "tightening" actually destroys the quality of the music, how can it be considered polish? To me the songs sound sloppier now because their communicative effectiveness is reduced by these efforts, this is not a work I can call polished without limiting the meaning to specific technique. But perhaps I have made a semantic error, at least we are in essential agreement. In the same vein, I am glad you used quotation marks for "perfected".
It's more than just corrected production, Varg is playing in a way that seems to be ignorant of the elements of the songs and their evocative effect. Hence sensitivity, referring specifically to his instrumentation and not the character of the song (which is altered as a consequence).
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Commerce / Re: Burzum - From the Depths of Darkness
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:28:37 PM »the "polished" nature of the release negates the character that these songs had in their original forms.
I'm glad you put that in quotes. It is the opposite of polished. I never thought Varg could play his own songs without sensitivity.
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What is the point of them? Do they have a place in the Hessian world?
Examinations are valuable for basic differentiation. I don't understand the question entirely, the motivation behind it is not clear to me. Is your concern poor examinations that do not reflect anything?
Entrance exams would be a good test of knowledge during the process of joining an academic institution. Other than that, I don't see much of a point of them - teachers should be able to ascertain the intelligence of their pupils without such tests.
I disagree somewhat, they have value in ascertaining whether someone has acquired specific knowledge/skills (including skills in critical thought for instance, especially relating to a particular discipline). For example, it does not matter how intelligent a physician is if he lacks one small bit of information or understanding that could mean the difference between life and death. If your perspective is only for examinations in schools, teaching young children/adolescents, then this is a fair statement.
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Chasm / Re: wisdom and the lack thereof - a philosophical or spiritual matter?
« on: November 28, 2011, 07:12:34 PM »
The human nervous system exhibits plasticity, so this is not entirely credible biologically at least. It is possible to "grow" faculty. One example; a person trained in a musical instrument will develop new connections that permit him to perform the range of tasks required. Can it be said that this does not extend to other, deeper matters?