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Metal / Demiliche's Nespithe needs re-editioning
« on: October 14, 2007, 09:33:36 AM »
I find it amusing that 'Nespithe' was dirt cheap about 12-18 months ago. Didn't it get reissued as well? I'm sure if you were to search you could get a cheap copy still. Just not in the most obvious places.

I know that EvilMusic.com was selling it at an affordable price a few months ago, but they ran out because, well, they were selling it at an affordable price. I've been searching around the internet for a while and almost all copies of 'Nespithe' are $25+.  I wouldn't be opposed to buying it at price, but if I'm going to buy a cd for $25 I'd want to keep it for myself, know what I mean?  Oh well, the search can continue.  I'll let everyone know if  I find anything.

In regard to the bootleg operation, I'm pretty sure that the band wouldn't care about it because a) as Moses said, everything about the album is on the internet and b) I'm sure that even if there are original copies out there, the royalties wouldn't amount to more than $50.
But, on the other hand, I personally think that sending in an original copy would be classier...but that's just me.

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: October 13, 2007, 08:26:01 PM »
Whoops, almost forgot to post all of this:

Used copies of Beyond Sanctorum from $7-$10

Used copies of The Karelian Isthmus for $7-$10

Used copies of Pierced from Within from $8-$10

Used copies of The Red In the Sky Is Ours for $6-$10

Used copy of Cause of Death for $11.50 or $10 (what can is say, it's my personal favorite)

Used copy of De Mysteris Dom Sathanas for $9

Used copy of A Blaze in the Northern Sky for $9

First four Darkthrone Albums for $7-$10

Used Copies of Blood Fire Death for $7-$10

Used Copies of The Rack for $7-$10

Used copies of Onward to Golgotha for $8-$10

I would like to buy all of these but, hey, I'm a college student :-/.  I think if each person on this board bought at least one (used and affordable) copy of a quality death/black metal cd (along with its corresponding review, and remembered to post what he or she sent) then University of Texas would quickly be flooded with this specific kind of music.   Its fairly easy to ignore a few submissions, but if these people received an overwhelming amount of these albums, then I think they would have to pay attention to the music and the reviews.  Hopefully, they'll see that someone takes this music seriously...

Or maybe I'm too optimistic.  Well, either way, it's a guaranteed way to preserve these cds for future study.   As everyone can see, it shouldn't be too hard to send in these albums. Just order a cheap copy online, and all you have to do is wait and send it to the University of Texas in a padded envelope.

(Due to the scarcity of affordable Demilich albums, I'm thinking someone should be the 'sacrificial lamb' and send in the original copy they already own...or buy a really expensive copy on ebay or Amazon ::)).

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: October 13, 2007, 07:19:28 PM »

I might mail in the entire Philosophy of Heavy Metal to see if I can give the poor guy some grounds for understanding this stuff.

Have you sent this essay already, born for banning? If not, I'm about to send Dr. Hunter copies of "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" and "...For Victory," and I'd be more than willing to include it in the package.  There's a chance that the guy will just throw it away, but since it's so many pages it may catch his attention,  right?

But then again, if we do send multiple copies, he could potentially disbtribute them among the faculty of the University...

Metal / Re: ANUS-wide Meeting, 2/10
« on: October 07, 2007, 07:30:54 PM »
We should organize a meeting beforehand for Bostonians concerning greetings, travel concerns, and future events, as there seems to be around 4-5 that visit this board regularly.  

Sounds like a plan.  We could meet at the Vader concert that's coming up in November but, like I mentioned in the thread for the tour, that concert will probably be extremely silly (ie filled with scene/metalcore kids due to the corporations that are sponsoring it), and hence most people would want to avoid it.  
Also, there's a Suffocaiton/Immolation show that we could meet up for, but it's playing in some stripclub in Bedford (??), New Hampshire (check the Relapse website for dates).   Hell, just planning to get there could be a meeting by itself, because I think the venue is in the middle of nowhere.

But, if we don't want to put too much effort into planning a get together we could just schedule to meet at a restaurant in Boston, or something along those lines.  
If anyone (ie an ANUS-Boston college student) is strapped for cash, we could eat at one of Boston University's fine dining halls for free, but that's only if we want to be really classy ::)

Metal / Re: ANUS-wide Meeting, 2/10
« on: October 07, 2007, 02:27:37 PM »
I'm sure everyone else in the Boston area was thinking about this, but just in case anyone's out of the loop: The Chinatown to Chinatown Busline!!! Hooray for cheap transportation.
Tickets are $15, and I think the rides are around 4 hours long (I've never actually taken this before, but I assume it's safe).  Here are the websites for the various companies:
Lucky Star Bus
Fung Wah Buslines

And, for everyone else on the east coast, this website has a fairly comprehensive list of buses going to and from New York, but I'm sure there's more.  

I'm not sure if I'm going (since I don't know what my schedule is going to be like next semester), but you can be damn sure that it'll be high on my list of things to plan for in the upcoming months. I definitely think it's important for us to meet each other, (even though some people on this website, including myself, are fairly antisocial) since a group can only accomplish so much on the internet.  Anyhoo, I'll be planning until then.  I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun.

Metal / Celtic Frost discuss making Morbid Tales
« on: October 03, 2007, 12:58:22 PM »
On May 7, 2007, MetalKult met Celtic Frost guitarist/vocalist Thomas Gabriel Fischer and bassist Martin Eric Ain at their hotel near The Fillmore East at Irving Plaza in NYC. Frost were on the third leg of their international tour behind 2006’s brutal return to form Monotheist, this time in support of headliners Type O Negative.

After arriving at Ain’s room—and enduring a tense moment when we had to rouse the sleeping metal giant from his pre-show slumber—Fischer showed up and the two extreme metal pioneers soon warmed to our cameras and revealed the events that surrounded the creation of arguably one of extreme metal’s most influential records, 1984’s Morbid Tales.

In this four-part, 25 minute interview, Fischer and Ain talk about their formation in the cold-war Eighties, the gear they used to conjure Morbid Tales‘ “inhuman” sounds and how they inadvertently created one of the one of extreme metal’s most influential albums.

It's a pretty interesting interview.  Full of Swiss humor, anecdotes about the metal scene in 1980s Switzerland, and a description of the mindset they had while preparing for and recording the album.  Enjoy:

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: October 02, 2007, 07:01:17 PM »
2. See the list of books:
You can see how academics approach a new subject, like a cross between scientists and ideologues. They start trying to fit it to a known pattern (rock) and gradually branch outward, then someone finds an ecclectic theory (ingroup, cultural recrudescence, Marxist sonic hegemony) and someone finally nails it. More books on metal have come out in the last two years than the two decades prior, so I'd say it's a fertile ground for study.

Ok, that makes sense.  Pretty soon these guys will see that it's more than just a bunch of rednecks playing power chords and grunting.  I remember Deena Weinstein making some kinda-sorta intellingent comments in "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey," something along the lines of: "Yes...you can see it's extremely masculine behavior.  It's men using their instruments well, having complete control and mastery over them."

Someone will eventually see that this music grants the listener the strength to "break free of the rigid paradigms society has created," as Trey Azagthoth puts it. These academics will eventually see that it's something more than rock once we send them enough examples of what metal can accomplish.

That's a good idea you have about the letter.  I'm going to buy a copy of Hvis Lyset Tar Oss sometime this week to send to Dr. Hunter, and I'll be sure to send the letter and an ANUS review of the album in the package...unless someone already has or is in the process of sending Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.  

Metal / Re: Vader Tour In the US: Good News and Bad News
« on: October 02, 2007, 06:39:50 PM »
Interesting that you live near Worcester. Perhaps I will go to this. The line up for Metalfest sucked this year, so I haven't been to a show for a while. Another poster on this board lives in the same area. Is this enough people for a Corrupt chapter? Hmm

Yeah, I'm going to college in Boston, and I think there might be other CORRUPTians in the Boston area.  Starting a chapter is something to think about.  

However, if we do want to meet up, I'm not sure if this show would be the best place for a first meeting.  I first learned about this tour on Vader's website, but then I saw that the tour had its own myspace page, and I did some investigating:

I'm still thinking about going to this, but for others considering, be forewarned: this could be extremely silly.  I think I could endure everything until Vader  and Malevolent Creation hit the stage, but for those who can't stomach terrible metalcore bands, it would probably be best to stay away.  

In regards to the Corrupt chapter: if we decide to not meet for this tour, perhaps we could meet up for another show, or even go on a hike somewhere in Massachusetts.    I haven't had a chance to explore outside of Boston that much, what with college and all, so this could be a perfect opportunity to get the hell out of the city.  Let me know what you think, all you Boston ANUSers.

Metal / Re: Vader Tour In the US: Good News and Bad News
« on: September 25, 2007, 09:49:54 AM »
Even worse news: Vader tries to convince everyone that speed implies doing something original:

Random Metal Magazine: So Peter, how's the new album.

Peter:  Yeah man, this is going to be our fastest shit ever.  Faster than (name last few albums).

On a more serious note, I've never seen these two before, and I assume they still have the passion of the days of old within them, so this could be good.

Hopeful News: Dont give up on seeing Malevolent Creation.  You can beat the curse, Kontinual, you can beat the curse... :)

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: September 25, 2007, 09:39:36 AM »
Two questions:

1) If we go to a respectable university, should we somehow try to include that information in our package?  For some reason, I think that would make them, well, take us more seriously.  After all, we know how most academics can be, right?

2) Just out of curiousity: how do academics (specifically, music professors) go about studying relatively unknown music? Do they just pay attention to how it's structured (pardon me for not using using  more specific words, but I know next to nothing about music theory and how music is composed), or will they pay attention to the general ideas it's trying to communicate (ie "Only death is real," and the realities that the general population wants to ignore)?  Or do you think that the latter interpretations would be made by history or philosophy or psychology or sociology professors?

I agree that this project is important, but I'm just wondering how long it will take academia to recognize the legitimacy of the music (I'm making the assumption that music professors will be the only academics to study this music for the next few decades).

Metal / Vader Tour In the US: Good News and Bad News
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:44:09 PM »
The Good News: Vader is touring with Malevolent Creation.  

The Bad News: They are being supported by four complete shit bands.  

Now, I'm used to attending concerts where the respectable old men of death metal are forced to drag along Earache's or Metal Blade's or Roadrunner's newest boy band, but really, four?

The dates:

Nov 17 2007      5:00P Pompton Lakes, New Jersey
Nov 19 2007      5:00P      Worcester, Massachusetts
Nov 20 2007      5:00P      Quebec City, Quebec
Nov 21 2007      7:00P      Montreal, Quebec
Nov 22 2007      6:00P      Toronto, Ontario
Nov 23 2007      5:00P      Rochester, New York
Nov 24 2007      3:00P      Detroit, Michigan
Nov 25 2007      5:00P      Chicago, Illinois
Nov 26 2007      4:00P      St. Louis, Missouri
Nov 27 2007      6:00P      Kansas City, Missouri
Nov 28 2007      6:00P      Denver, Colorado
Nov 30 2007      6:00P      Seattle, Washington
Dec 1 2007      5:00P      Portland, Oregon
Dec 2 2007      6:00P      Oakland, California
Dec 3 2007      6:00P      Los Angeles, California
Dec 4 2007      6:00P      San Diego, California
Dec 5 2007      6:00P      Tucson, Arizona
Dec 6 2007      6:00P      Farmington, New Mexico
Dec 7 2007      7:00P      El Paso, Texas
Dec 8 2007      6:00P      San Antonio, Texas
Dec 9 2007      5:00P      Dallas/Ft.Worth, Texas
Dec 10 2007      6:00P      Houston, Texas
Dec 11 2007      6:00P      Mission, Texas
Dec 13 2007      6:00P      New Orleans, Louisiana
Dec 14 2007      5:00P      Atlanta, Georgia
Dec 15 2007      3:00P      Spartanburg, South Carolina
Dec 16 2007      5:00P      Springfield, Virginia
Dec 17 2007      6:00P      Cleveland, Ohio
Dec 18 2007      6:00P      New York, New York

Well, is anyone else thinking about going to the Worcester date?

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: September 20, 2007, 06:56:29 PM »
Well, I've ordered the copies of "Speckmann Project". Good suggestion about sending DLA reviews, Vajra.  I'll be sure to stick that into the package before I send it to the Archive.

Metal / Re: Academic recognition of metal possible
« on: September 20, 2007, 09:33:12 AM »
Well, thanks to Thamuz's post about the good deals on "Speckmann Project" CDs, I'm going to buy a copy of that album on Amazon.  I could, however, buy two copies and send one to Dr. Hunter...unless someone is already in the process of sending that particular album.  If not, I'd be more than willing to buy the two copies.  Feel free to tell me if anyone is already sending that cd, otherwise I'll order the two at the end of the day.

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