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Metal / Re: Mathcore
« on: June 13, 2008, 03:32:43 AM »
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I'm sorry.  I should have chosen my words more carefully here.  While later Death does not necessarily fit the same style of music (it lacks the chugga chugga riffing, etc.), it still suffers the same flaws as the bands listed do.

Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrJihdss6ro

Chuck explicitly states that he's "trying to incorporate all my personal tastes, influences, and stuff."

"I'm into a lot of different types of music ."

Even on Human you can hear Chuck attempting to add several outside influences to the music (especially jazz), as well as purposefully increase the technicality of the band.

It seems that people on this site think the only reason for a stylistic change in Death was because of Christianity and AIDS.  Clearly, however, as the interview illustrates, Chuck was trying to move death metal in a new direction by adding as much shit to it as he could.  Of course, we all know how well that turned out.


you make a good point. for me, a person who actually enjoys Death despite what people claim on this site, i appreciate the first few albums, and call "Human" my favorite. i think it is a very good balance of death metal/speed/thrash with jazzyness and all those other things brought in by Paul and Sean from Cynic, as well as Chuck. the next album, "Individual Thought Patterns" suffers from the "album which couldve been a great EP" syndrome. the less said about Death's last 2 albums, the better.

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Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 13, 2008, 03:25:52 AM »
on Wintersun - ill admit i have a soft spot for Ensiferum, and i think Jari's talents serve him better in that band.

on the album itself, i got it when it first came about about 4 years ago. there are some good ideas throughout, and the only track which is COB-ish is the first track. keyboards are heavily used in an ambient kind of role, and they arent ever really done distastefully. the only problem is the album drags on and the lyrics to some of the songs are pretty bad.

id give Wintersun a 5/10. nothing too bad, but nothing that jumps out at you.

on Arckanum, have never been able to get into them because of the HORRIBLE vocals.

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Metal / Re: Mathcore
« on: June 11, 2008, 11:35:38 PM »
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I think the last couple Death albums should be thrown into this category as well, if for no other reason than spite.


its pretty much spite then, because Death's last 2 albums (which im guessing youre referring to) are nowhere NEAR this style.

do your homework.

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Metal / Re: Mathcore
« on: June 11, 2008, 11:33:54 PM »
in theory, this seems like a good idea. throw away all convention, go back to basics, and just write in a free-jazz/avante garde style.

in practice, 98% of it is simply annoying cut-and-paste rubbish with no direction.

1790
Interzone / Re: Opeth is the new Dave Matthews Band
« on: June 11, 2008, 04:07:33 PM »
they actually changed it!!!!  ;D

hahahahahaha, this is hilarious beyond words.

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Interzone / Re: Thrash versus Thrash Metal
« on: June 11, 2008, 04:06:47 PM »
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That was a marketing tact for simply one of their albums. I'd recommend listening to Leave Scars, one hell of an album. It has the aggression of Kreator's Endless Pain and the death metal abrasiveness, as well as the clarity, of Hell Awaits. Interestingly enough, one of the songs sounds like "Kill Again."


everyone keeps telling me to listen to that album. ive heard "Darkness Descends" and "Time Does Not Heal". both were boring overhyped garbage. i dont have a desire to hear any more of their music.

1792
Interzone / Re: Opeth is the new Dave Matthews Band
« on: June 10, 2008, 08:03:54 PM »
hahaha, thats something i could agree with.

1793
Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 10, 2008, 08:00:32 PM »
Gallhammer is pretty good stuff. despite the fact that people will automatically latch onto them because the band is made up of 3 girls, they manage to create brooding, evil music. definitely harkens back to the days of Hellhammer. i give em a thumbs up.

1794
Interzone / Re: Opeth is the new Dave Matthews Band
« on: June 10, 2008, 07:57:40 PM »
id say youre mistaken. Opeth is much more pretentious than DMB.

i tried about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about with Opeth. i heard 2 albums, and i couldnt really tell the difference between the 2. there are some instances where they come up with some sort of melodic passage that seems like it might go somewhere, but then that passage is cut off by more noodling.

really, i dont have as much of a problem with Opeth as i do their legions of insipid fanboys who proclaim them "the best death metal band", when they are BARELY metal at all.

they should just drop all of the distortion/growling and make albums like "Damnation" from now on. itll still be really boring, but at least they wont be mucking up the death metal world, and at least theyll finally realize what kind of music they should be playing.

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Interzone / Re: Allow me to introduce myself
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:49:23 PM »
...I, am Count Dracula.


all joking aside, welcome to the forums. now for the traditional hazing and demands of alcohol from other members.

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Interzone / Re: Thrash versus Thrash Metal
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:48:04 PM »
I really dont like Dark Angel. just play as fast as you can and brag about how many riffs you have on an album. right. thats deep.

1797
Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 08, 2008, 01:16:14 AM »
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"Gary Monardo's Record Vault Shirt" from Crush, Kill Destroy samples everyone's favorite "Weeping In Heaven" lyric.


haha, i just listened to that song, youre right. i never noticed it before.

thats a great album though. serious music meets nonserious lyrical content.

and youre right, back on topic. thoughts on?

Agathocles - Mincer
Abigor - Orkblut - The Retaliation
Revenge - Infiltration.Downfall.Death

1798
Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 07, 2008, 10:47:02 PM »
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I think the absurdist humor in "powerviolence" is kind of analogous to the way black metal overdoes their evil imagery and death metal uses gore in hyperbole, though bands like spazz and charles bronson are more subversive.

Infest and no comment are the antithesis of Metallic grindcore, just stripped down fast hardcore. Even if they are preachy, the lyrics are pretty accurate.



i like how you use the term "powerviolence" in quotes. i dont regard it as a serious term. i think one of the dudes from MITB said it as a joke when describing their music, and it caught on. personally i just call it all grindcore.

and ive never really got the hype about Charles Bronson. theyre just your typical fast hardcore band with one of the most annoying singers i have ever heard.

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Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 07, 2008, 01:08:59 PM »
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SPAZZ is an example of how not to use a sampler.

Random Profanatica and D.R.I. samples with tons of other random movie/TV sound bytes. Kind of annoying.

Infest, No Comment, Bucket Full of Teeth, and Yacopsae are the powerviolence bands I'd recommend.


Yacopsae is pretty good. and yeah sometimes Spazz go overboard with the samples. some are pretty funny.

where does Spazz use Profanatica samples? id like to see if i have the songs.

1800
Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: June 07, 2008, 11:40:25 AM »
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Taake

and maybe Man is the Bastard



Taake has some good ideas, and some good riffs. Theyre not at all like Satyricon (nothing can be that bland), but they need some tightening up in the songwriting department, judging from Doedevskad (the only album i own by them).

Man is the Bastard is pretty unique grindcore. the fact that they dont employ guitars makes them like a punk Necromantia. not bad at all. there was a lot of good stuff coming out of the early 1990s "powerviolence" scene, such as Spazz, Infest, Dropdead, and Capitalist Casualties. you just have to focus on the music and leave out the preachyness (or in Spazz's case, get past the fact that they were a bunch of goofs).

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