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Interzone / Re: An important book
« on: May 27, 2013, 09:56:27 PM »
The closing of the American Mind  - Allan Bloom

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Interzone / Re: White Nationalism
« on: May 24, 2013, 03:29:02 AM »
There was a time in my life when I felt white nationalism offered something of value.  There was also a time in my life when my mother had to regularly wipe my ass for me.  Make of that what you will.
It's not valuable because its unlikely to happen in our lifetime. What are your problems with it?

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Interzone / Re: Why do people disagree?
« on: May 22, 2013, 04:08:55 AM »
They truly do. Democracy is nothing if not people voicing opinions.
As if opinions were food and shelter.
There's a terrible famine coming.
Letting go of liberalism and democracy is in some ways letting go of your artificial confidence.
People can't do that if artificial confidence, "swagger" is all they've got. They'd plummet to below zero.

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Interzone / Re: Daddy issues
« on: May 22, 2013, 04:05:26 AM »
What I don't understand is, if existing primitive tribes where there is no monogamy and children don't know their fathers have happy children, why doesn't Western society?
Does the void actually come from comparing yourself to others, other kids who had a dad show them how to ride a bike? What is to be said of all those missed experiences?
I can agree that the father in a patriarchy does shape masculinity and femininity in his children, but that is because more discipline is needed on top of their genetic femininity and masculinity. Patriarchy is a cooperative system that has to run smoothly through generations.
Probably the darkest thought that crosses my mind is how black children without fathers seem to be more okay than white people without fathers. I don't mean this in terms of their SAT scores or criminality, but in their general confidence. They seem to be keeping it together more than white children who crumble emotionally. White people are more prone to existential anxiety, perhaps due to higher IQ.
I don't want to consider the idea that certain races are biologically hardwired to be used to certain mating schemes, due to different hormones and future/present oriented thinking, and such. It's possible, but I'm just not ready to think about that.

It think you're taking enormous liberties in comparing the environments and realities of primitive tribes with those of modern society. For instance how can you assume that women in primitive tribes are happier? Furthermore at the end of the day it's not all about happiness.
The women in tribes have kids, easiest way to tell if they're psychologically happy. Women are also okay with sharing men. Their kids.. how can they miss something they've never known? the societies don't seem to be producing sterile or insane individuals the way the West does.

I don't think making the comparison is as crazy as what psychology does with daddy issues. It actually convinces people that they're fucked up and chemically imbalanced because of their absent fathers, so they remain children until they're 40 and it's too late to make a legacy. Therapists who counsel rape victims do the same sort of thing. Those women remain victims for life.

"It's not all about happiness" an interesting point that modern liberal psychology wants to ignore. It doesn't actually go into the biological roots of people and examine their needs to see how they can achieve moderate happiness. It wants them to be happy all the time through external ways like drugs or borrowed self esteem while being sterile.

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Interzone / Re: Why do people disagree?
« on: May 22, 2013, 03:34:49 AM »
People disagree because they imagine their disagreement changes what is true.
It doesn't.
Neither does their agreement.
Agree/disagree is pure ego at work, and in its most visible form.
"I am so important that I will tell you that you are wrong and that I am right".

Moving beyond agree/disagree is beyond most people, but incredibly important to attaining real freedom.
Things are what they are, and it really doesn't matter what you think about them.
It changes nothing about the things, themselves, but it changes your own ability to deal effectively with them.
It's interesting how modern people just have a set of topics they always come back to in conversations like abortion or gay marriage. They say "I agree/disagree" so confidently, as if their opinion matters in the grand scheme. They truly believe in democracy.

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Interzone / Re: Daddy issues
« on: May 22, 2013, 03:32:41 AM »
What I don't understand is, if existing primitive tribes where there is no monogamy and children don't know their fathers have happy children, why doesn't Western society?
Does the void actually come from comparing yourself to others, other kids who had a dad show them how to ride a bike? What is to be said of all those missed experiences?
I can agree that the father in a patriarchy does shape masculinity and femininity in his children, but that is because more discipline is needed on top of their genetic femininity and masculinity. Patriarchy is a cooperative system that has to run smoothly through generations.
Probably the darkest thought that crosses my mind is how black children without fathers seem to be more okay than white people without fathers. I don't mean this in terms of their SAT scores or criminality, but in their general confidence. They seem to be keeping it together more than white children who crumble emotionally. White people are more prone to existential anxiety, perhaps due to higher IQ.
I don't want to consider the idea that certain races are biologically hardwired to be used to certain mating schemes, due to different hormones and future/present oriented thinking, and such. It's possible, but I'm just not ready to think about that.

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Interzone / Re: Daddy issues
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:56:13 AM »
Daddy issues are just a euphemism for antiauthoritarian childishness. It never occurs to these adult infants to improve upon what came before and be a better leader than their parents were. Instead, they wallow in learned victimization fantasies and like all dutiful undermen, rail against any leadership whether poor or excellent.

Well put.

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Interzone / Daddy issues
« on: May 21, 2013, 11:08:22 PM »
Is this a real thing?

I'm suspicious because modern psychology is blank slate-based. It wants to believe that you are molded by environment for the most part. Talking about their daddy issues makes people feel so special. it makes them get stuck in their own heads.   

Why would somebody have daddy issues..why do people have issues? In my opinion daddy issues is a cliché label given to the deeply layered dysfunction of post-modern society.

We started out in tribes with a fecund r-type mating dynamic. The males would not be present in their children's lives, they were mostly hunters and breeders. They had no way of knowing which child was theirs so the kids were left to be raised by their mothers and grandmothers in the village. There was always a polygamous pattern with an alaphamale impregnating more females than all the other males.

Marriage and monogamy was something we moved on to incentivize all males to build civilization. Best way to do it that isn't slavery.

But why would people have issues with absent fathers if this is a kind of artificial system that tries to work around nature, but the nature remains the same. Did we perhaps evolve certain psychological patterns from the time when paternal investment became more important in cold temperatures. Did the Neanderthals have this?

Modern people with daddy issues seem to be so well protected from the reality of things until a divorce or something happens. Then they realize that romantic love is a fraud, and that nature itself is hostile.  They do all kinds of things as a reaction to that like drugs.

The role of the father in high investment K-type breeding is to get his daughter to become fond of the traditional family and then go on to have hers. With the boy he can pass on status, skills and teach him how to be a man. Is a father leaving too early  something that creates actual cognitive voids, or something that just shatters illusions in the mind of a child in its formative years before it's ready for nihilism and also disrupts incentives and values.

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Interzone / Why do people disagree?
« on: May 21, 2013, 10:36:03 PM »
Why do we disagree on things?
-Is it because right and wrong is defined by each person through his window into the landscape and his desire to survive?
-also, different genetics. Some people have more empathy, others have more logic.
-Also there is ego attachment every time you believe in a new idea, or come up with one. This is because most of your actions and thoughts are supposed to leverage your status (especially if youre a man) to help you get mates. No one likes to feel cut down and have to start over with knowledge.
-some people see no point in knowledge that won't help us survive, others live just to dive into useless knowledge.
-Some people want to make the best of being a bag of meat by cooprating with its incentive structures, others want to ignore biology completely and focus on the abstract

anything else?

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Interzone / Re: White Nationalism
« on: May 21, 2013, 06:23:00 PM »
Do any of you actually feel any pride in being the same colour as that mass of people who are the same colour as you? I mean, knowing what most of them are like, and how they behave, do you feel any real kinship?
Perhaps in this age, White Nationalism is best kept as an inner conviction; an orientation, rather than a physically overt demonstration.
I raise this point, because although I definitely do prefer to be around people I have something in common with, I find, more and more, that I really don't have a lot in common with them.

It's not actually about skin color, it's about race.
People with the most similar genetics are your racial family. When all hell breaks loose people divide up by race for survival.
I have a theory though that white people are the least ethnocentric because they're a mix of two species - Neanderthal and cro mag. People who have more Cro Mag dna than Neanderthal do not identify with those who have more Neanderthal than cro-mag.

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Interzone / Re: White Nationalism
« on: May 21, 2013, 05:42:40 PM »
It has its problems but I don't understand why it's so marginal.

White nationalism is invalid in eyes of the world because of it's perceived link straight to Nazism and the Shoah.

The perception is like this: white nationalism is necessary (all nazis are white nationalists) and sufficient (all white nationalists are nazis) for nazism.

Perhaps, on the other hand, this perception is wrong and the reality is more like this: white nationalism is necessary but not sufficient for nazism (i.e. all nazis are white nationalists but not all white nationalists are nazis). My point is that the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater.


It's a problem of emotional association.

Egalitarian society wants to be a meritocracy and keeps racial lines in order to achieve this. What inevitably happens is everything turns anti white.
"White pride" disgusts people. Every other race but white is allowed to be as proud, as hateful and as ethnocentric as they want to be.

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Interzone / White Nationalism
« on: May 21, 2013, 07:31:17 AM »
It has its problems but I don't understand why it's so marginal. People have no problems with Jewish nationalism or the ethnocentric nature of East Asian countries. There is a disgust at white people not sharing, and a kind of interesting backhanded belief that other races like blacks won't survive on their own. People have separated for much less than racial differences, and honestly maybe separation is the key to peace.

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Interzone / Goodnight sweet Europe
« on: May 20, 2013, 09:28:24 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as4m-dDubjg

Muslim reproduction rates + white progressives= disaster

It was nice knowing you Europe

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www.genographic.com

23andme.com

The Genographic Project will give you a better percentage because it's more focused on anthropological ancestry. It gives you a Denisovan percentage too. $199
23andme mostly tests for genetic health, but also does some ancestry and gives you a Neanderthal Percentage. It's cheaper at $99

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Interzone / Re: Teeth, race, and intelligence.
« on: May 16, 2013, 10:38:43 PM »
Not every difference has an adaptational reason, but even so; why would blacks need more oxygen to maintain physical performance compared to other races? The brain is an extreme consumer of resources, including oxygen, and in fact cannot break down glucose for energy without it, unlike other tissue which can in some conditions. It is extremely sensitive to drops in the oxygen saturation of the blood. Also, how would protruding teeth prevent airway compromise even if there is more room? There is plenty of room anyway, compromise is more likely to be from the tongue falling back into the throat (when unconscious), a relatively common occurance that would not be related to space anteriorly.

That doesnt mean this is superficial (I doubt it is), but the reductive reasoning of pure adaptation verges on silliness. Of course, with this being a mostly taboo area, the best we will get are probably these speculative biotruths for now.

The worst example of this fallacious reasoning is that gay people were more likely to be protective of the offspring of siblings and become soldiers/warriors as that is the only way they could protect their genes. Believe it or not, I have seen that repeated plenty of times.
of course this is just in the speculative stage for now. an idea to play with.
The Jaws affect the airway, and the spine, and ultimately your physical performance. Any TMJ specialist will tell you about it. people who were mouth breathers as kids and didn't develop their jaws and teeth properly become deficient in both athleticism and academic performance. This is a very informative book.



Black people never have bad posture. They're always standing up straight with a forward jaw a straight neck and a lifted chin. Perhaps as they have had little pressure to evolve higher intelligence, all of the oxygen goes towards building them up physically. I don't know. They didn't grow the jaw specifically to survive in Africa, the jaw decreased from the previous hominids and it just remained that size for them.

I'm mainly just confused at why the teeth shifted back for white people and Asians, following Out of Africa theory. Does a huge jaw use up too much energy? Too much bone mass? And also why has this always happened even as we gradually moved up from being apes.
Smallest brain = massive jaw, and then it kept getting smaller and smaller as cranium size increased. 

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