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Interzone / Re: Good news thread
« on: May 18, 2011, 11:13:53 PM »
I'm always leary of health publications that say "...may reduce the risk of.."

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Interzone / Re: Problems with evolution?
« on: May 15, 2011, 10:48:42 PM »
The assault on darwinism isn't necessarily religious. Darwin essentially observed a bunch of animals, and how some are better at survival tha others, then he applied this to earth's history and theorized that all living things evolved from simple organic molecules. Scientists are finding it hard to prove the initial stage of this theory, among other things.

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Interzone / Re: Face burnings
« on: May 15, 2011, 12:24:38 PM »
the woman is thought of as beneath human due to layers upon layers of political/historical/cultural/religious foundations, thus she is burned at displays of "immodesty", or sometimes for no reason at all.
Are you sure that there is no other reason that women have been seen as being subordinate to men? I have a hard time believing those political/historical/cultural/religious foundations didn't have a foundation.
sociobiology probably? I started this thread to figure out the core of all this.
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some poeple also argue that sexual repression(in men) in those nations is to blame for men being "weird" around women and reacting like savages to them, similar to the suicide bomber argument people make.
Middle-eastern men being weird around woman? Suicide bomber argument? I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm pretty curious.
This is what people typically say to pigeon hole men in those regions, that those men don't get to express their carnal desires, and this results in a deep rooted hate for women, so even when they do pair up with one they treat her like shit. I don't think sexual depravity is the top cause of face burnings though. It's too easy to blame things on a lack of getting laid.

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no man(especially one in a position of power) really gave a shit about what came out of a woman's mouth.
Peasants were known for taking greater heed of womanly opinions than people in positions of power?
Doubtful.
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Sexism is alive and well in western societies.
It always will be. It's rather clear to me that sexism is the natural state of mankind. There wasn't a word for this before relatively recently because it was considered the default way of thinking. Even today, the modern notion of equality cannot extinguish the natural impulse of woman to be subordinate to man.
Yep. that's what i'm getting at, or trying to figure out at least. Almost every form of discrimination in western societies is extremely subliminal. Subliminals are worse because they get passed on to peers and children through attitudes.  A man doesn't have to beat his wife lifeless, or even sexually harrass a cowoerker to have sexist views. it's even weird for people here to think that women actually enjoy sex, and don't do it just for manipulation, jewellery, or whatever else. men evaluate women as whores or "wife material", meanwhile men hardly get judgments for their promiscuity. the idea that a man can be "slutty" is preposterous to most. A woman can be smart, but not too smart. She can have an attitude but she still has to be nurturing and innocuous to have any appeal. A woman's looks are still her most important asset.This has been researched and confirmed by many psychologists.
there might be something of value in the argument that if there were 100 women on an island and 1 man you'd have 100 babies in one year, and if you had 1 woman and 100 men you'd only get 1 baby in one year.

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Interzone / Re: Problems with evolution?
« on: May 15, 2011, 12:06:51 PM »
all of these richard dawkings type scientists explain that part so simply. "there were some organic chemicals that formed into cells, bacteria and the bacteria evolved into jellyfish eventually"...and then they start their usual attacks on the "irrationality" of religion.

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Interzone / Re: Problems with evolution?
« on: May 15, 2011, 12:44:23 AM »
well a tail propelling is only found in the flagellum cell. it's not that a tails function is to propel. the long string that extends from  the cell is called a tail because of what it resembles, but it's a thing of its own. .

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Interzone / Re: Suicide
« on: May 14, 2011, 09:06:02 PM »
In some parts of the world suicide after you have done the greatest accomplishment of your life is actually considered honorable. In western societies it's a " problem", a deplorable and illegal(LOL) act. One reason is that we need high population numbers for businesses to work from.

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Interzone / Re: Face burnings
« on: May 14, 2011, 09:03:46 PM »
this is a bit different from honor killings. the woman is thought of as beneath human due to layers upon layers of political/historical/cultural/religious foundations, thus she is burned at displays of "immodesty", or sometimes for no reason at all.
there are no strict laws to make men think twice about committing such an act. A woman attempting to seek justice would probably be burned again.
some poeple also argue that sexual repression(in men) in those nations is to blame for men being "weird" around women and reacting like savages to them, similar to the suicide bomber argument people make.
Sexism is alive and well in western societies. Until the second half of the 20th century, no man(especially one in a position of power) really gave a shit about what came out of a woman's mouth. If we had similar judicial systems as those countries, no fear instilled in any of our men about the consequences of their actions, what would happen?

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Interzone / Re: Problems with evolution?
« on: May 14, 2011, 08:25:06 PM »
There's no doubt that organisms that are best suited to their environment and best capable of retrieving food in their environment survive and procreate.
A lot of the anti-Darwinist scientists find issues in the "primordial pond" of and things like the flagellum motor. I'm interested in this, because the promordial pond is the whole beginning of it. If that can't work, neither can evolution.

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Interzone / Re: Problems with evolution?
« on: May 14, 2011, 07:47:13 PM »
well, a mutation gets passed on IF it has an evolutionary advantage. A motor wouldn't have much advantage until it is compeletely put together. just having a tail that can't be propelled would be useless. Also this is seen by many as THE best and most sophisticated motor in all existence. 

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Interzone / Face burnings
« on: May 14, 2011, 07:28:18 PM »
This is a link of graphic nature. Prepare to be pissed off.
http://sharerimg.com/p/55689.html
Very few perpetrators get convicted, because the government doensn't give enough of a shit about women to do anything about it. They don't publish pics of women in newspapers because that's too "immodest"

While the laws over here might be better, are the people?

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Interzone / Re: Suicide
« on: May 14, 2011, 07:06:04 PM »
I'm fine with it, and it's fully understandable. People always whittle it down to a simple issue of self esteem when it's WAY more complex than that.

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Interzone / Problems with evolution?
« on: May 14, 2011, 07:04:14 PM »
i haven't done much research about this side of the coin, although i know there's a TON of secular scientists who have chosen to reject Darwin.

Flagellum motor is one if i remember right. Such a thing would be too difficult to come into existence by natural selection, considering its compexity.

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Interzone / Re: Psychics
« on: May 13, 2011, 12:57:57 AM »
thanks for the references. i'll have to look into those. Been reading Carl Jung's works about the occult as well. Good to hear open-minded discussion of this here, which is damn near impossible on other forums with wannabe richard dawkings chiming in with lame seinfeld brand humor.
 given the peculiarity of reality, it could be fully possible.

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Interzone / Re: Economic growth destroys the planet
« on: May 12, 2011, 03:45:21 AM »
Recovering from a recession is actually a terrible thing. The recession was the time when people just plain realized that they didn't need to buy as much shit and that their kids still loved them even though they didn't have the latest car.

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Interzone / Re: They breed... like rats
« on: May 11, 2011, 03:07:33 AM »
Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that people make facebooks for their 1 year olds? the attention whoring nature of social networks also validates people's urge to have kids and to take thousands of photos of them. Turning your children into tabloids is some disgusting shit.

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