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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 30, 2014, 02:13:32 PM »
At the Gates used more impulsive rhythms with abrupt changes.

The tendencies that some have noted for the drums to quiet down during busy guitar parts but pick up during the repetitive ones would be familiar to any jazz listener, and by jazz I don't mean the lite-jazz-fusion crap that numu metalcore bands pick up on, but the old stuff. I think it's even older than that: constant drumming is generally brain dead, so musicians use it selectively, but it can't make a suitable sonic appearance when something else is the focal point.

Eucharist go for a very formal and logical sequence of introduced material that is the antithesis of the more chaotic lunge that At the Gates takes. It creates an austere and distant feeling like that in many prosperous middle class homes, and introduces a deathlike absence into it.
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I think it's much more sinister than that.

The average person -- even if vegan -- supports the growth and expansion of a society that by definition does so at the expense of natural land.

What happens to all of those animals? A: they die. As do all future generations in that area.

If I had one wish for humanity, it would be less use of space. This cannot be achieved by putting everyone in apartments, because they will still need farmland, roads, hospitals, schools, shopping malls, doctor's offices, irrigation clinics, parking lots, bars and restaurants, libraries and public toilets.

The posh/non-posh thing seems to have more to do with who's "in" the little elite media club and who's not. Mostly corporate stooges probably. But metal has always hated poseurs, and people who rage about hunting while happily signing the next bill to shift 300,000 acres of green belt into condominiums are total hypocrite poseurs.
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Metal / Re: Metallica: heavy metal not a fit for posh Glastonbury festival
« Last post by Wild on June 30, 2014, 03:09:26 AM »
I expect that the night after they signed that petition, the vast majority of those people dined on the carcasses of tortured animals as products of the industrialization of death.

But that's "normal".

Wheras;

Shooting an animal which lived its life in a natural environment is "evil".

Liberals are scum.
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Much of the rancour has surrounded frontman James Hetfield’s proclivity for hunting, with campaigners concerned that such activities run counter to the Peace and Love spirit of the festival.

At time of press 25,379 people had lent their signature to a petition calling for the band to be banned on the grounds that he has a “vile obsession with hunting”.

Whatever one’s views on the morality of hunting the campaign does lack credibility. Are we to ban artists from Glastonbury for any sort of objectionable behaviour and simply have Coldplay perform every year? There was certainly no outcry whatsoever when a host of headliners with nefarious pasts and in some case unabashed criminality were booked to perform.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/music/the-anti-metallica-rhetoric-smacks-of-hypocrisy-enter-metal-1-6697091

Even in highly adulterated form (nu-Metallica) heavy metal is too feral, mythological and atavistic for modern "safety first" kiddies.
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Audiofile / Re: Requests/Report Dead Links
« Last post by Rotten Ralph on June 29, 2014, 07:35:34 PM »
Anybody has the original "Molested - Blod-draum"? 320kbps.

DON'T get the remaster. Seriously. Probably the worst remaster I've ever listened to. Why do they have to ruin so much stuff this way?

I had the same problem when checking out this album. The remaster was so bad I had to delete it. But as an alternative you can use a Youtube to MP3 converter and download the one on Youtube. It'll be one MP3 file for the whole album and it's at 192kbps but it's a lot better than hearing that awful remaster.
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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by fenrir on June 29, 2014, 09:42:38 AM »
The word refined can refer to "developed or improved so as to be precise or subtle", but the definition I was going for was "elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste". Going by the latter definition, I would say Eucharist's aesthetic is much more refined than AtG by virtue of their ornate melodies and overall atmosphere of stateliness.

What do you mean by "atmosphere of stateliness?

This makes sense to me. The overall style/aesthetic of the Eucharist album is certainly more orderly, stately, rigid, contained or whatever other word you want to use. At the Gates has a more frantic and and desperate vibe to it aesthetically but this is executed with a higher degree of technical/musical proficiency (as fenrir rightly pointed out). It is easily the more accomplished and matured album of the two and brings to mind works such as Obscura or Hvis lyset tar oss in that both spirit and technical prowess should coalesce to transcend the stylistic limitations of the genres they originate in.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't see how I did not understand what he meant with "stateliness"... :)
My argument remains the same, that that does not make it necessarily more refined, but rather safer-sounding, only.
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Metal / Re: Whatever happened to Crimson Massacre?
« Last post by wEEman33 on June 29, 2014, 06:23:20 AM »
A second album was allegedly written but never recorded in full.

The details of their numerous recording debacles were lost when Myspace switched over to their new format, as that was the band's only Internet presence.
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Metal / Heavy metal is a culture separate from black, gay culture
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 28, 2014, 09:17:10 PM »
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Speaking about the diversity of audiences at heavy metal shows, Ward — who is also a member of rap-metal pioneers STUCK MOJO — said: "Metal always gets weird… and I don't even know… but it gets this weird reputation of being racist or homophobic. It's, like, why? And they say, well, there's a not lot of black people at the shows. It's, like, black people are welcome. We don't have a sign [saying that no blacks are allowed to attend metal concerts]. But it's about culture. And that's the one thing that people don't realize… Because there's not a lot of gay heavy metal bands, that doesn't mean that that culture is not welcome, it's just that we gravitate towards things that we are culturally drawn to, and black culture, in general, is drawn to music that came up in black culture… you know, rap music, R&B, blues, jazz, and there are places where those cultures can meet, and they often do. But even LIVING COLOUR and bands like FISHBONE, they don't have large black audiences. They play rock music, so they have a mainly white audience. So it has nothing to do with color, it has to do with culture."

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/fozzys-rich-ward-explains-why-there-arent-a-lot-of-black-people-at-heavy-metal-shows/

The most important part:

But it's about culture...we gravitate towards things that we are culturally drawn to
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Metal / Re: Profanatica - Progenitors of the Omni-Riff
« Last post by aquarius on June 28, 2014, 06:41:32 PM »
Actually their latest is finally growing on me  ???

However it is interesting you mention about it being music that is to be felt, as this is something I would easily apply to earlier material whereas the more recent offerings have this kind of avant-garde 'indirectness' to them (and that probably applies equally to Beherit and Demoncy though I think they pulled it off better).
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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by aquarius on June 28, 2014, 06:30:27 PM »
The word refined can refer to "developed or improved so as to be precise or subtle", but the definition I was going for was "elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste". Going by the latter definition, I would say Eucharist's aesthetic is much more refined than AtG by virtue of their ornate melodies and overall atmosphere of stateliness.

What do you mean by "atmosphere of stateliness?

This makes sense to me. The overall style/aesthetic of the Eucharist album is certainly more orderly, stately, rigid, contained or whatever other word you want to use. At the Gates has a more frantic and and desperate vibe to it aesthetically but this is executed with a higher degree of technical/musical proficiency (as fenrir rightly pointed out). It is easily the more accomplished and matured album of the two and brings to mind works such as Obscura or Hvis lyset tar oss in that both spirit and technical prowess should coalesce to transcend the stylistic limitations of the genres they originate in.
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