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Metal / Re: Whatever happened to Crimson Massacre?
« Last post by Vigilance on June 27, 2014, 02:28:16 PM »
Good question. I too have been wondering the same. That debut showed potential but it definitely was not the masterpiece it was heralded as by the burnt out underground observatory. Too many moments of "was that really necessary?" and tough guy vocals.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 27, 2014, 01:40:08 PM »
He's definitely taken a hidden path in his life.

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see."
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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 27, 2014, 01:35:33 PM »
Eucharist sets up rhythm more like a doom metal band. They remind me of Skepticism: create vast spaces, let guitar phrases intrude.

That's similar to what Immortal and Darkthrone did, except for them it was constant ambient drumming. This cut guitar free from drums, which enables more rhythmic variety.

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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by fenrir on June 27, 2014, 07:24:02 AM »
Once again the ambiguities of language are obfuscating what I am trying to say. The word refined can refer to "developed or improved so as to be precise or subtle", but the definition I was going for was "elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste". Going by the latter definition, I would say Eucharist's aesthetic is much more refined than AtG by virtue of their ornate melodies and overall atmosphere of stateliness.

What do you mean by "atmosphere of stateliness?
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by Spinal on June 27, 2014, 06:17:25 AM »
Thanks for the info. Geeky side note: "Aha" apparently means "rage" in Tolkiens Quenya language.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by Tancred Hauteville on June 27, 2014, 03:07:28 AM »
Still round the corner there may wait
  A new road or a secret gate;
And altough I oft have passed them by,
  A day will come at last when I
Shall take the hidden paths that run
  West of the Moon, East of the Sun.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by Tancred Hauteville on June 27, 2014, 03:05:05 AM »
No it is a Tolkien reference. It is in a poem recited by Frodo near the end of the Return of the King.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 26, 2014, 05:09:18 PM »
I hope he did. A-ha were better than 90% of the radio tripe in the 80s.
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Metal / Re: Eucharist
« Last post by fenrir on June 26, 2014, 03:21:02 PM »

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You're talking about impressions. I'm talking about composition.
Are not emotional/existential impressions the whole point of composition?

Structure and technique are only meaningful insofar as how they are put to use in communicating an experience, ideal, emotional revelation, etc. The form of a composition is subordinate to what it is trying to communicate.

No doubt there is a kind of 'mathematical' aspect to music appreciation, but if that's all you listen for, you're missing the forest for the trees.

Ah, don't jump from tree to tree.
We both agree on the immense expressive power of early At the Gates.

I mentioned the technical and nuanced aspect of The Red in the Sky is Ours only because you were trying to say that Eucharist is more "refined" (yes, you said it after my initial response, but an implication of the sort was there from the beginning).

If we will talk about refinement, we are talking about technical devices and how they work to express things, correct. Eucharist doesn't seem to me as powerful or as versatile as early At the Gates.
They do seem more accessible and plain, though. More innocent, in a way. That being said, their music is really enjoyable.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by Spinal on June 26, 2014, 11:33:07 AM »
This is a longshot but did Vikernes deliberately name Sol Austan... after  A-ha's 1990 release, or does the title refer to something else?
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