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Metal / Re: National Day of Slayer 2014
« Last post by Tancred Hauteville on June 08, 2014, 04:25:05 PM »
It was celebrated by around 20 of us. Had a BBQ, and some drinks. Started with Show No Mercy and made it through to Seasons in The Abyss (included Seeds of Horror in our listening as well). A fun night all around!
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Metal / Re: The band Pink Frothy AIDS was ripping off
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 08, 2014, 03:27:02 PM »
Yep, but as you can see this was a discussion in the context of metal (and Black Sabbath is mentioned).
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 08, 2014, 02:53:30 PM »
For discussion of ideology, please take it to the new forum. It replaces Interzone and all other non-music conversation here.



Regarding the new album: my impressions of it have improved since earlier listening. It enabled Varg to do what he was chafing at with Filosofem, which is to stop guitars from so dominating sonic space that differentiated voices are impossible.

It is more ambient, with less of a clear beginning and ending, but that's by design. This is music to drop out of this world into and the change occurs within the mood, not through change in mood overall. Some songs are transition pieces like some of the Ildjarn stuff. I like the original "Tomhet" better though.
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Metal / Re: Shane Bugbee interviews Behemoth's Nergal
« Last post by Barbaar on June 08, 2014, 02:27:10 PM »
Some people really take their time developing their worldview from intuitive but inarticulate rebellion against modernity to a conscious conservatism... Nergal seems to be on the right track though.
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That was my way of exploring classical music as well. This Emperor set will cost a LOT more than my collection of 300+ classical vinyls did in its entirety.
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by Barbaar on June 08, 2014, 10:51:57 AM »
This is bad, and to some extent unnecessarily so.

VV could have dozens of better musicians stand in line to fill in the vocals, he'd only have to ask in a facebook update. This applies to some other (canned) instruments and the production as well.

Emptiness is the best song here by far. Still too poor a rendition to really warrant a re-issue. The worst is 'Ek fellr', a song so impotent that, if anything, it shows why European culture deserves to die. Inbetween are some songs that swiftly develop to a point where the melodies are left to drone on idly for far too long -any variation merely superficial- and then they end.

The old Burzum pieces usually had at some point a dramatic change of perspective that proved there were realms unknown to mindtravel about. That was music for brave, adventurous people, whereas the new songs remain cosy cardboard trompe l'oeils at best.

VV apparently lost his ability to construct songs that gain relief as they progress. The youthful spirit is definitely gone; it looks like ideology has taken over. At least they put the full album on YT themselves, the background image saying: 'Burzum - using music to promote European culture'. There's nothing more to it either.

This album is a lazy, cynical, self-conscious piece of propaganda. I'll take Brett Stevens' praise as I did with World Painted Blood.
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Metal / Re: The band Pink Frothy AIDS was ripping off
« Last post by dawn on June 08, 2014, 10:01:35 AM »
Yeah I don't know where you got this from... that style of soft verse/heavy chorus has been around at least since the days of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc.

It's even been used somewhat tastefully in the hands of better artists (the song "Black Sabbath" comes to mind).
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Metal / Re: Burzum - The Ways of Yore
« Last post by dawn on June 08, 2014, 12:45:08 AM »
This album bored the holy fuck out of me. Bad vocals, uninspired repetitive melodies, half formed ideas that go nowhere. It's not worth reading too much into the ideology behind it all because at the heart, it's just another shitty post-prison Burzum album rushed out less than a year after the last one.
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Metal / Re: The band Pink Frothy AIDS was ripping off
« Last post by Undermind on June 07, 2014, 10:22:45 PM »
It goes deeper than just death metal.  This style of songwriting plagues all forms of rock music at one point in their development.  It explains the massive popularity songs like "Free Bird" and "Stairway to Heaven" in the mid-70s.  Metallica and Nirvana just stumbled upon an updated version of it.
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Metal / The band Pink Frothy AIDS was ripping off
« Last post by death metal black metal on June 07, 2014, 07:35:08 PM »
http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,18441.msg90305.html#new

In the 90s it became clear that soft/hard was a winning formula. Bands like Nirvana later capitalized on how to write a gentle acoustic verse and then have a wailing chorus. But before that, metal bands experimented with this, possibly starting with Venom's "Cold Northern Breeze" but maybe dating back to some of the Black Sabbath experiments.

Cemetary took this into death metal, mixing a ghostly fast vibrato (I still don't know how they did this technique) with lighter distortion than most, creating a sound like veils draped over the howl of wind through a cave. Then, they added in acoustic guitar used strategically at points of quiet emotion, then built up to the more raging death metal riffs. Far subtler than the soft-verse/hard-chorus that Nirvana, nu-metal, etc. would use, this technique caught the attention of many for its subtlety and emotion.

Then Pink Frothy AIDS cloned it in a simplistic form, following the nu-metal option.
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