I'm far from analytical, and yes music is just a hobby for me (and I'm 100% self-taught, since all my favorite musicians seemed to have stumbled upon brilliant ideas by accident, and learning how music works seems to take the fun and magic out of it for me).
2. See Morttis' Født til å Herske for comparative cheese.
If you don't understand Mortiis' work, or why the "cheese" is necessary to the atmosphere (which carries the music) then you probably won't understand what I'm after either. Getting people to understand it should be one of my goals, but I don't want to simplify it too much.
1. It's sloppy. There are very obvious tempo glitches all over this album. When performing something with a fixed tempo but no fixed timekeeper, use a metronome.
My thinking was it might add to the atmosphere. I feel that it does (and could explain my thinking behind this if anyone is interested), but after the first album it becomes less forgivable, so I'll make more effort to be precise in any future works.
I wanted to like this, but it just went nowhere. The songs told no story.
Why does it need to tell a story? Some music is about epic stories, some music is about celebration and dancing, some music is about just relaxation and being in the background. This music is about atmosphere. These are places, not stories. Perhaps my next album will be more about the story within the places, but my music will always be about atmosphere first and foremost. Its about transporting you to another world. I'm showing you the world, not making you an active participant within the events (either of which would be perfectly good subjects for music).
Sorry, I don't want to sound defensive. I just want you to hear what I do.
How long have you been playing? What else have you done? I am curious, and not for malicious reasons.
I've been playing somewhat seriously for around five years or so. I made two demos before this album, but I was around 16-18 when I made most of the songs, so they're pretty shitty. Still I think they're interesting in the "teenager accidentally makes interesting atmospheric minimalist music" sort of way. But then again, I might just be egotistical and wish to be like the early black metal guys. Avoid them if you don't really like Seven Wonders. (I think they're on a few music-sharing blogs out there).
I understand the reasoning behind this, but do you realize this is the almost the same as saying "it's meant to be boring and shit"? fine, but why would anyone want to listen to it? I know that sounds like I'm being a dick but I've heard that excuse (in various wordings) from people who make a hell of a lot of money out of music - but still cant answer why they think anyone should bother listening to something thats deliberately shit. always consider what the listener is able to take positively out of a work.
I was thinking "emotionally monotonous" in the style of early Gregorian chant, and there's still a few of us weirdos around who are interested in listening to such things (for the music, not the history lesson). Besides, your music, to my ears, suffers from the same "problem" (though monotonous in a darker voice), as I'll get to in a short review...
anyway. i'm funny about self promotion, but i guess its only fair to share some of my music in this thread now that ive seen fit to criticise other peoples work. Since its a metal forum I'll offer some metal:
Ah, the Beithioch guy! I've had Aisling Dhorcha and Díolaim in my collection for quite some time, not because I like them, but because of the anus connection. Honestly, every time I try to listen to them I end up getting bored and turning them off. On the other hand, I never made a serious effort to really "get" them, and since the composer came from anus I have always assumed that there was something to get, which is why I haven't deleted them yet. So I suppose now is as good a time as any to give it a stronger effort. I'm going to listen to Aisling Dhorcha more thoroughly.
I'm not going to pretend like I know what you did wrong, and what you could improve for me to get it. Both of our works have failed for each other because each of us doesn't seem to hear what the artist hears, which I suppose is the problem for all artists that are even somewhat serious about what they're doing.
But it's interesting that the same criticisms you made for my music, I have for yours. The fact that it doesn't seem to go anywhere. It's all tension, no release. While I might've made the opposite mistake. Also its got a strong "wandering" sort of quality, which is perfect for atmospheric music, but not "hvis lyset-type" black metal. So I'd say get a much more focused structure, cut out all the weak parts.
I do appreciate the structural complexity. It has earned my respect, but it doesn't connect with me on levels that matter, which I don't really have advice for since I think that requires an instinctual sort of vision.
It reminds me of I Shalt Become but lacks the atmosphere that makes a few albums from that particular project great.
The Burzum influence might be a little too strong, but I can hardly criticize you for that considering the level of Mortiis influence on my own work.
I have no objective criticisms since I am self-taught and not versed in musical theory and jargon, all I know is that as a listener with a lot of the same tastes as anus.com, I found it boring. I wrote this making a conscious effort to ignore the fact that you disliked my music. I assume I am still allowed to dislike and comment on yours after that without being accused of having prior bias. In this case I was lucky to have heard this album prior, so I know that I had these opinions on the music before having a potential subconscious bias.
I still have a sneaking suspicion that I'm just not getting it though... (averse sefira literally took me years to understand). I'll give the other albums more listens too and let you know what I think if I have strong feelings about them. Either way I think your albums probably deserve more attention here, unless there's another thread somewhere...