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The doomish death vein, before doomdeath

Divus_de_Mortuus

I never read the lyrics to that song apparently, because I thought he said "trapped by a god that I once understood", and not "cause". It is indeed about Nazis. Curiously, the band never plays it live because Jeff hates it. ;)

This is going rather off-topic, but I think this is an interesting coincidence: two bands record a song of the same title in the same year (and it is the same track number on both).  One is fantastically more literate...how different are they in essence?

SABBAT (UK) - "Behind the Crooked Cross"
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One man - one vision, racial purity,
madman or magician? A mystery to me,
he who scorns the teachings of
Blavatsky count the cost,
there's more than superstition
hides behind the crooked cross.

Our destiny in prophecy -
we learn by our mistakes,
through each strata of society -
the poison infiltrates,
adding hatred to the embers -
'till the fire burns out of hand,
to spread the dark cloud swiftly -
'cross our 'Green and Pleasant Land'.

Security in ignorance,
out of sight is out of mind,
while children weep on city streets -
the blind deceive the blind,
they say 'welcome your lost brother
all he touches turns to gold',
yet my 'brother' tries to kill me -
out of love so I am told.

My blood with yours shall mingle,
our spirits unify,
if our hearts are joined as one
then we can never die.

Now the 'Dove of Peace' lies dead,
upon this land our fathers bled,
and 'Drakes Drum' lies deserted on the sand,
I see the keepers of the peace -
hacked to pieces in the streets,
victims of the 'brotherhood of man'.

History repeats itself - of this fact I am sure,
stupidity defeats us if its lessons we ignore,
so heed these words of warning
before it is too late,
to preach the 'New Religion' -
the philosophy of hate.

My blood with yours shall mingle,
our spirits unify,
if our hearts are joined as one
then we can never die.

Now the 'Dove of Peace' lies dead,
upon this land our fathers bled,
and 'Drakes Drum' lies deserted on the sand,
I see the keepers of the peace -
hacked to pieces in the streets,
victims of the 'brotherhood of man'.

One man's condition - pure insanity?
a nation's submission - embracing destiny,
driven by compulsion - powered by the Vril,
do not mock the Crooked Cross - its power
is growing still.

Ein Volk
Ein Reich
Ein Fuhrer

Behind the Crooked Cross


SLAYER (US) - "Behind the Crooked Cross"
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Time melts away in this living inferno,
Trapped by a cause that I once understood.
Feeling a sickness building inside of me,
Who will I really have to answer to.

March on through the rivers of red.
Souls drift, they fill the air.
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.

Do only what is expected of me,
With no emotions my feelings suppressed.
Blind obedience carries me through it all.
Conscience a word I learned to forget.

March on through the rivers of red.
Flesh burns, it fills the air. (Souls drift, they fill...)
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.

Time melts away in this living inferno,
Trapped by a cause that I once understood.
Blind obedience carries me through it all,
Do only what is expected of me.

March on through the rivers of red.
Souls drift, they fill the air.
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.

Re: The doomish death vein, before doomdeath
March 28, 2011, 12:54:59 PM
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Has anyone worked out what the spoken word section right at the end of the [Incantation] track 'Deliverance of Horrific Prophecies' says? It sounds like something backwards, although it could possibly be Latin.
I heard somewhere that he's saying "I sang Golgotha in the nude"; no idea if that's true or not.

Coincidentally, I just put that song in Audacity and used the Reverse function.  He INDEED says that.  Not much of a secretly occultish message, goddang it!

Re: The doomish death vein, before doomdeath
March 28, 2011, 05:33:33 PM
kontinual-
nice post, the Sabbat lyrics are some mighty fine lyrics indeed.  This thread has been nicely derailed by this Slayer argument.  I would have to say that both Asphyx and Immolation definately constructed  some doomy, claustrophobic antmospheres.  Immolation's production sound in general always sounded very doomy to me - always evoking ideas of doom far more powerfully than a few limp-dick detuned strings flopping against the fretboard at 20BPM.

Re: The doomish death vein, before doomdeath
April 08, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
Doom metal is, on the whole, shit. It's like they took one element of Black Sabbath they really liked and made whole albums out of it.

Black Sabbath songs were like little journeys or adventures, the doom metal I've heard isn't a journey, it's like they set off for the airport, realised they forgot their tickets, went back home and then couldn't be bothered to set off again so sat around and smoked weed all day. Duuuuh.

Re: The doomish death vein, before doomdeath
April 08, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
Doom metal is, on the whole, shit. It's like they took one element of Black Sabbath they really liked and made whole albums out of it.

What "Doom" are you even listening to? Doesn't sound like you're listening to Doom to me, just slow heavy metal.