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Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 25, 2007, 01:07:58 PM
Another interesting turn:

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GORGOROTH frontman Gaahl and bassist King ov Hell — who are involved in a legal dispute with guitarist Infernus over the rights to the group's name — have released the following update:

"Continuing on with the new agenda now forged for GORGOROTH, Gaahl and King have enlisted none other than Hellhammer (MAYHEM, DIMMU BORGIR) to join them on battery beginning in 2008.

"Gaahl and King are creating a force which will only contain members of a strong and creative energy in honor of the art that is GORGOROTH and their renewed sense of destruction and war! Hellhammer possesses these ideals and he will add another dimension to this new and different beginning.

"Please welcome Hellhammer to the battle!"

K

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 25, 2007, 02:52:03 PM
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Why would you assume some marginal album is universally recognized here?

I recall it being a total mess (from hearing it 7-8 years ago), but I'm going to listen to it again to confirm.


I disagree with you completely on this one. It is hardly marginal, and I find all the songs fit together fairly well. It was the last cry of a dying band, and everything since has been whimpers.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 25, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
If only there was a metalhead judge deciding the case on who gets the name Gorgoroth, who would rule against Infernus based on the fact that Twilight of the Idols, Ad Majoram..., Incipit Satan all sucked.

It would be a moral victory for hessians everywhere.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 25, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
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If only there was a metalhead judge deciding the case on who gets the name Gorgoroth, who would rule against Infernus based on the fact that Twilight of the Idols, Ad Majoram..., Incipit Satan all sucked.

It would be a moral victory for hessians everywhere.


These are the albums that Infernus did not write though, surely?



Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 25, 2007, 11:31:03 PM
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Another interesting turn:



Where is Hellhammer not trying to leave a mark within the black metal scene?

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 26, 2007, 03:36:15 AM
I think Hellhammer's modern body of work shows that he is much more interested in collecting paychecks than "leaving a mark," as you put it.

The relative scarcity of skilled metal drummers (compared to say, guitarists) also helps his cause a good deal.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 26, 2007, 12:20:53 PM
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Buy the album or hire a good lawyer.



I do have a couple of their albums now, unfortunately, they do not print their lyrics.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 26, 2007, 08:03:15 PM
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Although Antichrsit will remain a classic, Destroyer is a criminally underated album. They were always overlooked as typifying the Norwegian scene, hence they were dismissed. It was only after destroyer that they really began to get stagnet.


Destroyer still gets a regular listen from me, far more than other Gorgoroth.  The tracks Open the Gates, & Om Kristen og Jodisk Tru are highlights, with Virginborn closing out with a nice slow, doomy contrast to rest of the album (disregarding the Darkthrone cover).

Incipit, Twilight, and Ad Majorem had interesting bits, Ad Majorem being the better of those 3 IMO.  But, with little continuity and totally lacking the spirit of previous Gorgoroth, they just seem pale.  It is interesting that Infernus is credited with little input after Destroyer.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 28, 2007, 12:02:02 AM
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Destroyer still gets a regular listen from me, far more than other Gorgoroth.  The tracks Open the Gates, & Om Kristen og Jodisk Tru are highlights, with Virginborn closing out with a nice slow, doomy contrast to rest of the album (disregarding the Darkthrone cover).

Incipit, Twilight, and Ad Majorem had interesting bits, Ad Majorem being the better of those 3 IMO.  But, with little continuity and totally lacking the spirit of previous Gorgoroth, they just seem pale.  It is interesting that Infernus is credited with little input after Destroyer.


I would mark Under the Sign of Hell as the beginning of their decline. It lost the brilliant focus of the first two, and became a collection of riffs with no mystery to them. After that, it was as you say: a good bit here, a good bit there, but the whole adds up to a big pile of shit with a few nuggets in it, which is still a big pile of shit.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 28, 2007, 10:25:44 AM
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These are the albums that Infernus did not write though, surely?




Who even knows anymore? By the sound of that press statement, Gaahl made it sound like Infernus was less involved, thus Gorgoroth suffered. But then again, that could just be shittalking from a frustrated ex bandmember.

I take back that statement.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 30, 2007, 09:23:50 AM
Maaneskyggens Slave is their best achievement, and remains one of the best examples of narrative song structure in metal. I think only the title track from Antichrist came close to matching it, though I agree the Antichrist album as a whole really refined their melody.

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 30, 2007, 10:29:56 AM
I was reading about Gaahl's case of assault today, and it appears in court he has stated the only reason he gave the man he beat up a cup is because he was "bleeding all over my carpet." Why on earth would a man who claims to lead the lifestyle he shows on documentary's be worried about a carpet?

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
October 31, 2007, 03:50:40 PM
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Why on earth would a man who claims to lead the lifestyle he shows on documentary's be worried about a carpet?


I don't know the details behind this, but, from what I hear, Gaahl is a mystic of some sort (a practicing Pagan?), and mystics tend to be very superstitious, especially with something like THAT.

But fuck the present; the past seems to be much more important and magical as far as Gorgoroth the artistic outlet is concerned.

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Maaneskyggens Slave is their best achievement


Agreed wholeheartedly. Albums are the smallest structural unit for Metal music methinks, and without the rest of that album preceding it, the finale wouldn't have the momentum it has from the first seven songs and would be much less powerful and evocative. A good thematic album is not just narrative in the form of each song, but also on the macrocosmic level of the work itself...

Another interesting happening on that album is about 2/3 through "Katharinas Bortgang," the music grabs ahold of some mystical power and gradually peaks unto a terrible, horrifying shriek and crash of drums... Always gave me goosebumps  8)

Gorgoroth's Pentagram was one of Prozak's better reviews and I liked how he likened it to theatrical evil in order to achieve "sheer destructiveness toward normal music."

On another note, I was always curious about what was going on in-between songs on that album and the deeper meaning of it, if any. The effects they use seem so subtle and fleeting; a nigh-subliminal nod to horror. Whatever it is, it succeeded and it still has me thinking. Ah, esotericism..

chb

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
November 01, 2007, 05:47:46 AM
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"For the rebirth of the live band it is considered necessary to get this done first, as it is my intention to erase as much as possible of the traces of the last years' periods output. The new live band will focus on old material and brand new and shall in one form or another by Satan last for another 15 years!"


Good news!

Re: Are Gorgoroth immensely under-appreciated?
November 05, 2007, 07:32:47 AM
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"The vocalist has been considering quitting the band numerous times. The other actually quit last year due to difficulties combining playing in a clear-cut Satanic metal band as GORGOROTH with the fact that he is full-time employed as a primary school teacher."


;D ;D