Third world USA

[Conservationist]

When nations die, they don't just die -- they slide slowly into third world status, which is a kind of dysfunction like being sick or a child, or really old. Things just stop working. Constructive activity ceases. Parasitism takes over. Soon the organism dies or just fades away into scattered communities of stone age people.

Signs of the decline:

* Government knee-deep in debts
* Many small foreign wars
* Lack of political, social and philosophical consensus
* Imported labor and class warfare
* Corruption
* Average IQ declining as population dumbs down

I wonder how many of these we see in an average day in the USA, Europe or North Asia.

[Forza Romana]

Yeah that sounds about right.

Listen, it is  a shame even for me to see the young italian generation follow  too much of an american mentality . As this americanize way comes in, ancient traditions fade away. Well, that is why I work very hard to preserve this life I believe in...

[druidakoda]

Interesting. I picked up a book in the library a year ago by some Nigel Haggar I think (although I can't find anything about it on the internet which is frustrating, but also perhaps a pointer to its credibility) which talked about how all religions stem from mystic visions of flame or light usually by some individual who then proclaimed it was (a) God speaking to them. Anyway the other thing was that all civilisations have a religion attached to them (or all religions have a civilisation attached to them), but more relevantly that all civilisations follow the same basic pattern of something like 40 to 60 stages or so before being completely dead. Now by his reasoning the American civilisation, being the biggest one in the world at the moment, is actually at a relatively young age (a teenager) and hasn't even met its peak yet; whereas European civilisations are past their peak and slowly on the way out and the Russian civilisation is nearing its end.

[Libido_Itch]

If i want to see what a third world country looks like all I have to do is take the train through Baltimore, what a fucking shit hole!  The living standards in the United States are not the best in the world, you would think, since we are a global Empire, but no.  The surroundings of just about every town is cheap and downtrodden, no art, great architecture, etc.  The workforce is practically treated as slaves, especially if you live in the South.  The United States always invoked a certain image to my mind, not of culture at all, just an entity with so much resources it doesent know what to do with itself.  Off subject, United States = Soviet Union.  An uncontrollable entity, instead of communism it is consumerism and democracy.  Even the uniforms have an uncanny resemblance to the soviet union durring ww2, and the vehicles, tanks as well. No elan whatsoever in fighting style, just an infinite supply of resources, etc. 

[scourge]

If i want to see what a third world country looks like all I have to do is take the train through Baltimore, what a fucking shit hole!

There are pockets of abandoned rotteness all over the country now, including rural, suburban, and urban areas.

[lolmetal]

If i want to see what a third world country looks like all I have to do is take the train through Baltimore, what a fucking shit hole!

W00t Bmore represent!  I am living pretty comfortably here.

When nations die, they don't just die -- they slide slowly into third world status, which is a kind of dysfunction like being sick or a child, or really old. Things just stop working. Constructive activity ceases. Parasitism takes over. Soon the organism dies or just fades away into scattered communities of stone age people.

Signs of the decline:

* Government knee-deep in debts
* Many small foreign wars
* Lack of political, social and philosophical consensus
* Imported labor and class warfare
* Corruption
* Average IQ declining as population dumbs down

I wonder how many of these we see in an average day in the USA, Europe or North Asia.

Got any evidence for Average IQ declining?  Please don't use me as evidence.

[Abstraction]

If i want to see what a third world country looks like all I have to do is take the train through Baltimore, what a fucking shit hole! 

Baltimore is reported to be the heroin capital of the U.S. That's what happens when poverty becomes so saturated in an area and nothing is done to combat it, though the number of criminals and druglords VASTLY outnumber those of law enforcement.

[Saif al-Malik]

Europe is also faltering, but I do not think Russia will be fading away just yet.  The Muslims may eventually acquire France and Britain.

[scourge]

Side effect redundancies or interrelations:

* Increasingly rootless population
* Victimology and panderers
* Centralized control
* Import trade dependency
* Foreign loyalties
* Overemphasized commercialization
* Inadequate infrastructure
* Weak conservation

[Forza Romana]

Hmm, while I do respect the Muslims even when they make their way into Italy, all I ask is that there is respect. Let it be known, that the Arabs brought many wonders to Sicily, and had respect never the less. But it is true if and only if it is the goal of one's race to go to another country, they may want to change it. While I am totally into keeping my ancient culture traditions from my region, I can see them fade away to another culture.

And this is the sands of time...

[Stars Down To Earth]

Got any evidence for Average IQ declining?  Please don't use me as evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

Although IQ doesn't really speak that much for intellectuality.

[scourge]

The Muslims may eventually acquire France and Britain.

Why all the hysteria in the West about Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan having nuclear armament if the people and ideologies from these countries are welcomed to control them officially in Europe? This hemisphere is mentally ill.

[lolmetal]

Got any evidence for Average IQ declining?  Please don't use me as evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

Although IQ doesn't really speak that much for intellectuality.

Yep, I heard about that.  Average IQ scores are increasing, yet Conservationalist says they are decreasing, which is a contradiction.

IQ tests are certainly far from perfect, but it's the best we have.  "Intellectuality" might as well be defined as "something I have and everyone else doesn't have."  Most people think they are smarter than everyone else, especially around here.

[Devamitra]

Yep, I heard about that.  Average IQ scores are increasing, yet Conservationalist says they are decreasing, which is a contradiction.

I guess you didn't read carefully.

The Flynn effect may have ended in some developed nations starting during the mid 1990s. In the United Kingdom amongst teenagers, it maximized during the 1980s and has since remained the same.

Teasdale & Owen (2005) "report intelligence test results from over 500,000 young Danish men, tested between 1959 and 2004, showing that performance peaked in the late 1990s, and has since declined moderately to pre-1991 levels". They speculate that "a contributing factor in this recent fall could be a simultaneous decline in proportions of students entering 3-year advanced-level school programs for 16–18 year olds."[25]

During 2004, Jon Martin Sundet of the University of Oslo and colleagues published an article documenting scores on intelligence tests given to Norwegian conscripts between the 1950s and 2002, showing that the increase of scores of general intelligence stopped after the mid-1990s and in numerical reasoning subtests, declined.

[scourge]

* Suicide assaults on calcified bureaucracy
* Dumbing down in order to look cool is called instructing