On the mentality of “men against time”

fred_nietzsche

Yes, pipe smoking is old-fashioned. It’s an indulgence from a by-gone age. And that is precisely what draws me to it. Smoking a pipe is a statement of taste, a rejection of the joyless and mass-produced engineering of addiction that is the cigarette. It’s an enjoyment of the slower, the more refined, the ritual as opposed to the habit. It’s single malt instead of cheap vodka. It’s quality versus quantity. It’s mindful appreciation instead of a quick fix.

And that is why I like it. – fearsclave

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18 thoughts on “On the mentality of “men against time””

  1. Reginald says:

    Guys, what is up with the recent tobacco-glorification on deathmetal.org?
    Tobacco is a highly addictive/destructive substance. Do y’all disagree, or agree but simply not care?

    1. I blew my head off like Per Ohlin says:

      It’s an analogy.

    2. OliveFox says:

      You convinced me. No more tobacco. Instead, I’m gonna load the kids up in my Prius and take them for FroYo…than maybe we can all stare at our IPhones and recite our favorite headlines from The Onion while my wife’s Modest Mouse Pandora station plays in the background!

    3. Paul Warkin says:

      Addiction is caused by personality, don’t blame the substance.

      Tobacco is harmful, but like any poison, dose is important. Smoking a pack of cigarettes every day will noticeably increase risks for various diseases, but an occasional smoke from a pipe or cigar (which are inherently healthier because the smoke doesn’t enter the lungs) will not increase the risk much above the baseline. The choice is between a possibly slightly longer life by abstaining, and a definitely richer one by smoking in moderation. There may be other reasons for choosing not to smoke, but a metalhead is not scared away by a minor statistical danger when there are tangible benefits to be had.

  2. thewaters says:

    Did you read the post?

    1. Heckler & Kock says:

      The package, whether it happens to be an old timey pipe or a $1000 cigar doesn’t change the fact that it’s a disgusting habit. That’s why all tobacco users seek the refuge of like-minded addicts — errr sorry, “hobbyists.”

      1. OliveFox says:

        Dip and chew are pretty gross. Cigarettes can be rude, sure. But Pipes are fairly pleasant, be it the aroma or the nature of conversation it spawns. And cigars are wonderful for celebrations and special occasions. I think being full of disgust should be saved for worthier subject matters.

        I understand that this article is fairly unnecessary, but since when did smoking irk so many Metalheads? Doesn’t anyone have those great memories of chaining a pack with a local act outside of a club, or getting backstage at a Slayer concert because you let a roadie bum a smoke?

        1. Heckler & Kock says:

          Cigars are loaded with social pretense — ‘I’m smoking, but don’t mistake me for a plebeian.’

          Pipes are just another image device hipsters have already begun to amalgamate. Like the mustache or the crew cut.

          1. Hipsters eat, too. Food is untrve.

            1. Meek Metalhead says:

              You mean edible substance one consumes for nutrients? Even fish eat food. Not very apt of an analogy.

  3. Michael says:

    A repost from some guy on a tobacco forum with a stock photo of Nietzche. What does Nietzche have to do with any of this?

    Deathmetal.org has gotten lazy. This is Facebook level shit. Just hitting the share button on some one else’s content.

    1. Egledhron says:

      I partially agree; the post is quite lazy but at least it sparked a nice discussion. I guess that puts us one level above Facebook..?

  4. sheeit says:

    did nietsche even smoke?

    kinda wondering how that might effect his IBS.

  5. Viranesir says:

    Past time appreciation on a forum to be reposted on another forum under Nietzche, cited by your nickname. Does this qualify as lyrics to a Pornography era The Cure song, or as a slide in a Postmodernism lecture.

  6. melonsparks says:

    It is a fact that real manly men smoke, whether it be pipes, cigars, or cigarettes. Girly men don’t smoke and as a result they are pathetic and they have fat girlfriends.

  7. Dualist says:

    I remember you mentioned once that you used to put tobacco (strictly English, if I recall) on your bongs as well as the green! I wouldn’t fancy that. Do you still have a toke from time to time?

  8. Tropical Candy Boy says:

    Cigars and cocks, of the fat veiny variety are welcuming hobbies. Please don’t tell.

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