#Metalgate before the quarrel: Nyogthaeblisz censored at festival

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In the middle of #metalgate, we are familiar with regular outrages as SJWs attempt to silence anyone who does not agree with their narrow-minded, politically-motivated viewpoint which they use as a means to achieve personal power by delighting in the destruction of others. Before this creepy behavior moved into the spotlight, its roots could be seen in an early incident involving the black metal band Nyogthaeblisz:

In the build-up to the fest, the usual rush for the aspiring pretentious festival goer to research all of the bands playing so they wouldn’t get caught looking ignorant was on. Chaos In Tejas attracted a variety of types to the festival. One of the more unfortunate types are the “I still think punk is a platform to fight the good fight politically” PC punk type.

The 2012 edition featured anarchopunk legends The Mob & Antisect, so the festival promised to have more PC crust punks than usual in attendance. As kids started to research the lineup, they found “irregularities” in Nyogthaeblisz’s background. First, they were on the label Satanic Skinhead Propaganda. The label, run by the oft maligned Antichrist Kramer, had a reputation for releasing questionable / sketchy music. Second, Nyogthaeblisz’s lyrics made crushing commentary about the Jewish faith, though not specifically limited to it. The criticism / outcry from many parties quickly became deafening.

The height of this outcry was when The Mob / Antisect both threatened to walk out of the festival and drop if Nyogthaeblisz was not dropped. Eventually, the festival’s promoters made a tactical decision and relented. They dropped Nyogthaeblisz. For the PC types, this was seen as a victory. Defeating the evil that is intolerance and racism wherever they may find it.

Nowhere else has the problem been more clearly documented: invaders from the long-dead punk scene, where people buy bands for “the message” despite low musical quality for the past twenty-five years, muscled into a metal festival and used their media power to force removal of an act singing about a fairly middle-of-the-road black metal message, which is a critique of Abrahamic religions (Nyogthaeblisz targets Christianity, Judaism and Islam as being the same philosophy).

While many of us are sensitive about people who dislike Jews, remembering the horrors of Kristallnacht and The Holocaust, this does not insulate any religion from criticism no matter how minority its status. The whole point of religious toleration is to allow ideas to be compared, and this includes defense of those who are critical of religion or specific religions. “No gods, no masters” is OK in the PC world, but saying “not this god” is not.

Their use of the term irregularities brings to mind a group who, in the name of a Good ideology, killed over 100 million people, many of them in death camps. Their favorite tactic was to kill off the intellectuals and leaders in any field and then replace them with politically-obedient substitutes. This group was the Communists, whose idea of universal equality and ownership by the people of the means of wealth sounds good on paper, at least. You can just see a Commissar, in uniform with pistol at his side, saying “Comrade Nyogthaeblisz, vee haf found some… irregularities… in your papers. Please come with us now,” before the train to Siberia or the guillotine departs.

This mentality was described extremely well centuries ago by Fred “God is Dead” Nietzsche:

There it comes willingly: welcome, tarantula! Your triangle and symbol sits black on your back; and I also know what sits in your soul. Revenge sits in your soul: wherever you bite, black scabs grow; your poison makes the soul whirl with revenge.

Thus I speak to you in a parable—you who make souls whirl, you preachers of equality. To me you are tarantulas, and secretly vengeful. But I shall bring your secrets to light; therefore I laugh in your faces with my laughter of the heights. Therefore I tear at your webs, that your rage may lure you out of your lie-holes and your revenge may leap out from behind your word justice. For that man be delivered from revenge, that is for me the bridge to the highest hope, and a rainbow after long storms.

The tarantulas, of course, would have it otherwise. “What justice means to us is precisely that the world be filled with the storms of our revenge”—thus they speak to each other. “We shall wreak vengeance and abuse on all whose equals we are not”—thus do the tarantula-hearts vow. “And ‘will to equality’ shall henceforth be the name for virtue; and against all that has power we want to raise our clamor!”

You preachers of equality, the tyrannomania of impotence clamors thus out of you for equality: your most secret ambitions to be tyrants thus shroud themselves in words of virtue. Aggrieved conceit, repressed envy—perhaps the conceit and envy of your fathers—erupt from you as a flame and as the frenzy of revenge.

What was silent in the father speaks in the son; and often I found the son the unveiled secret of the father.

They are like enthusiasts, yet it is not the heart that fires them—but revenge. And when they become elegant and cold, it is not the spirit but envy that makes them elegant and cold. Their jealousy leads them even on the paths of thinkers; and this is the sign of their jealousy: they always go too far, till their weariness must in the end lie down to sleep in the snow. Out of every one of their complaints sounds revenge; in their praise there is always a sting, and to be a judge seems bliss to them.

But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangman and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had—power.

The article adds a nice analysis of the situation from a neutral viewpoint:

What happened to Nyogthaeblisz was a textbook case of what people who are intolerant of intolerance do. You’ve heard stories about Antifa protests at shows over the years. Antifa members calling the police (the ultimate cardinal sin in the subculture) on shows they protest, intimidating attendees of shows they protest, and threatening promoters for their bookings of questionable acts. None of this is okay. This kind of Kristallnacht, lynch mob, seeing red mentality at the mere possibility of questionable content is not okay. Nyogthaeblisz was judged and attacked without even getting to issue a statement in their defense. The biggest tragedy of the anti-racist position is the claim of a higher understanding / intelligence that their racist opposition lacks. If this higher understanding / intelligence truly existed, the research on Nyogthaeblisz would not have stopped at Anti-Jewish, but arrived at Anti-Abrahamic. What happened to Nyogthaeblisz wasn’t the triumph of good over evil. It was one side becoming what they hated to root out an entity that they did not understand.

This is the face of the SJW: someone who has failed at life or at least is less important than they think they are, demanding to be made important through ideology and their ability to summon a hate-mob to destroy others who have achieved what the SJWs have not. Nyogthaeblisz’s real sin was not having the wrong views, but succeeding without having an SJW ideology and lifestyle. That is the face of the group that wants to take over metal, replace its leaders with SJWs, and forever turn it into a mediocrity like hardcore has been since SJWs took over there.

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21 thoughts on “#Metalgate before the quarrel: Nyogthaeblisz censored at festival”

  1. vOddy says:

    Preaching equal rights, while condemning a band for criticizing a religion which commands the murder of homosexuals and the subjugation of women:
    Classic.

  2. Dualist says:

    How do we interpret these two facts:

    1/ That the SJW’s seem to be able to create a lynch-mob to destroy any band they disagree with, at the drop of a hat.

    2/ Yet WE are not able to ever rally an equal amount of SUPPORT for these bands to counteract this and make sure the likes of Disma still get to play the festivals (this site being one of the FEW that does offer opposition)?

    The only answer that seems to make sense to me is that the SJW ideology has ALREADY completely taken over metal. WE are now already a tiny minority.

    If this is true, it would seem to imply that this effect is only going to get worse. Does this mean the battle for metal is already lost?

    1. vOddy says:

      Social Justice is the most popular dogma in Europe. Functionally, it is the religion of the people. In United States, it is probably not as popular as a watered down version of Christianity, but it does co exist with it and is powerful.

      Ideologies of intellectual honesty and reason have always been unpopular, from Sokrates to the present day.
      This isn’t just about metal. Social justice is a plague that has infected many things, always demanding superficial diversity but genuine uniformity.
      Here is a random non musical example:

      https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/style/2015/07/07/mfa-backs-down-over-kimono-event-response-protests/lv9NHcnpW0lsRE77d9hvkI/story.html

      That is a news piece about an event being cancelled for for being “racist”.
      The event was simply people wearing kimonos (a traditional Japanese garment).

    2. Metalheads are weak because their response to most things is “Up yours!” This defiance makes them feel better, and they do nothing to rectify the situation, but go back to their classic vinyls, beers and bongs.

      1. It’s easy for social justice fags and other college town revolutionary types to take over something like metal, video games etc because a lot of the guys into it are insecure and inexperienced with women. They’ll go along with anything if they think it’ll make some females accept them.

        1. morbideathscream says:

          Another problem the metal scene has. Metal dudes who were probably respectable at one time going the sjw route to possibly get laid more often. I’ve turned off alot of women with my non pc views and ultimately didn’t get any pussy because of it, but I’m not gonna sit there and say we should bend over for every one else cause whitey is evil in order to get laid. I love metal because I love fucking metal whether there’s any ladies in it for me or not.

    3. Lipistan says:

      This is the best Metal site for commentary i’ve seen. Metal will die when we are silent.

    4. OliveFox says:

      I hate talking in such abstract and structure-less terms, but, isn’t part of Metals greatness the fact that, when done correctly and most powerfully, is that it can exist despite its material popularity and “hip” status? If the real shit is viewed as “outsider” art or some silly term, does it really matter to the people it means the most too? So the terms “battle,” “winning” and “losing” are just distractions to the great artists making the actual content.

      Of course, I am no dummy and can play my own devil’s advocate. Art needs to be practiced, played, financed, promoted, perfected, and toiled over in order to be consumed, thought over, and, hopefully, appreciated. Obviously, SJWs and their internet cronies are making the wheat and the chaff situation much more annoying and time consuming, and their crimes of hurting bands (read: actual HUMAN BEINGS livelihoods) deserve ISIS style be-headings…and NOW, promising young bands are more likely to hang up their instruments and never even get the opportunity to fail at their craft before they fail because of ideology.

      All rambling aside, I can’t help but think this is a situation where fighting back actually HURTS the cause of Metal. Metal shouldn’t be a needy genre that needs the chicks and the popularity of the “hip” crowd. Hipsters and SJWs seem to literally ONLY want attention and affirmation between their own clique.

      Who knows, I don’t claim any special knowledge, I just know that I want more discussion about music and bands I really want to support and love…which this site does a great job at for the most part. This weird subterfuge over personal politics gives me a headache and truly makes me want to just retreat back to my old records, old friends, and stock piles of booze. Maybe I am playing right into what these liberal mobs want…hard to tell, harder to care.

      1. Metal appeals to the feral, realistic and transcendental beast inside every person.

        This is why those in power and those who aspire to power for power’s sake insist it must be controlled.

        1. OliveFox says:

          But who grants this power? Where/when did the cracks open up? Censorship and PC is so ingrained in culture that it is nearly invisible, metal seems to be an incidental victim that symbolizes a whole shifting mindset. If such thinking is beyond a half decade long zeitgeist…is it actual evolution, or is it just the next rung on Boethius’ wheel and will turn around no matter what we say or do?

          I applaud those fighting the fight, and I certainly don’t want to imagine the world my son will inherit when he gets into his 20s if this pervading attitude continues to grow exponentially. Not sure why, but countering activism with activism is not something I personally can tolerate. Maybe discussions about cultural shifts are better suited for the “other” website. But, staring out into the woods behind my property just makes me realize how easy it is to turn my computer off, stop giving a shit, and wander into nature.

          1. The Nameless Arcana says:

            How did the cracks open up?

            The neckbeards let the SJW’s into Metal. Hell, the neckbeards let the SJW’s into EVERYTHING…

            Neckbeards, Hipsters, Posers, and SJW’s are all poison.

      2. vOddy says:

        Of course metal does not need approval. But it needs to be free from censorship. That is the battle to be fought, alongside computer games and free speech in general as allies.

    5. ChoirOfWolves says:

      I’m not necessarily convinced SJWs have actually succeeded in “taking over” Metal. What they have done, which is also communism infiltration tactic 101, is establish a foot hole in the mainstream music media, promoters, venue owners (primary means of spreading their rhetoric and signaling for other SJWs to join lynch mob) and have begun censoring any ideology that does not fit into their warped politically correct worldview. Basically, they are the most vocal – and they have the means to get their message out more successfully. Metalheads generally are ill equipped to battle SJWs and need to start applying the same tactics that SJWs use – extensive background checking, look for “irregularities” in their rhetoric, out them in front other SJWs and above all try to infiltrate their cliques. Hit them where it counts, in the wallet and target their social status.

  3. Matters says:

    Long gone are the days when it was only Christians protesting at metal shows. Nowadays we have to contend with this SJW nonsense. What makes the SJW situation is that they have a big influence of social media- take Prozac getting his Facebook account blocked-and therefore can influence promotors decision to work with or book bands. I’m quite certain that none of these SJW tards will man up and get in the faces of people wearing Graveland or Burzum shirts unless they are in large numbers or have some Antifa thugs with them.

    I would suggest taking the metalgate argument to certain metal blogs that sympathize with SJW ideology but that would just create more traffic for them.

  4. viranesir says:

    One thing to always remind ones self when fighting with the tyranny of these people is that they are not marginally concerned about equality, justice or anything their liberal arts bachelor essays thought them to recite. They are just using those words to find support to make a mark. They don’t even care what mark they make, they just want to make a mark. In my opinion, we shouldn’t even acknowledge the fact that they are doing what they are doing with good conscious. They are using those “concepts” for malicious ends, and they themselves above all should be awakened from the fact that they are not working for any “good”, because they think they are, that is why they are in zombie mode eating the brains of anyone except their kind.

    1. puny humans says:

      Absolutely true.

      The problem at hand here is another wave of censorship. So we find a way around those who would wish to censor our music. New hosts for festivals, new club/bar owners, New labels, New websites, New friends and remember…..

      Metal Never Bends!!!!!

  5. Demonseed says:

    If any of you lives in the Bay Area : I am pretty sure if we organize a “STOP CENSORING METAL” protest in front of Zucks house in Palo Alto and we call some news crews (and we all show up with signs in metal shirts etc) that we will get on the news and call more attention to FB censorship. It would be fun . I don’t wanna be getting arrested though but within the limits of the law it would be fun to protest if possible . at first I though maybe on a sunny day but since its for metal maybe a gloomey rainy day could work best for it .

    1. vOddy says:

      Go for it, mate
      I’d join you if I lived there, but I live in Sweden.

  6. The watering down of metal is a gradual process. The PC types we see now are more a symptom of an older and larger problem.

    At one point there was no money, prestige or increased chance to get laid that came from making underground metal. So the people that did it, did it for the love of music. Their passion was contagious, people noticed, scene whore socializing types showed up, the scene got large. Then the PC police noticed the wild party and showed up with a noise complaint, and just as with anything… by the time the PC police show up, the party’s already been over for a while. Creative people arent attracted to metal anymore, and havent been for a while.

    1. vOddy says:

      It’s a combination.
      If people didn’t use music as a platform to gain social status, money, and sex, then we wouldn’t be experiencing infiltrators who care more about things other than the music itself.

      But if social justice as a social phenomenon didn’t exist, then we wouldn’t have to deal with censoring – we’d just have to deal with shitty bands that 12 year old girls listen to, claiming to be metal.

  7. morbideathscream says:

    Now if I was the promoter of that fest I would keep nyogthaeblisz on the bill and tell the whining crybabies in the mob and antisect if they didn’t like it they can get the fuck off the bill. I also blame the promoters for bending to the sjw types anytime they throw a hissy fit, I’m convinced a majority of these promoters who put on the metal fests are lefties as well, that’s why sjw’s have been granted all this artificial power. They seem to be all about pleasing the pc punk/sjw types. Same with the disma situation, shit bands like vitamin x and drop dead were threatening to walk off the bill if disma were to play. It was mdf that catered to the sjw’s. The promoters need to put their foot down and tell these stupid punk bands if they don’t like who’s on the bill they can drop off and be replaced by a much better band.

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