Degtyarov Disses Death Metal Underground


Ignyaz Degtyarov of “flowing black metal” and folk “metal” website and zine Black Ivory Tower slammed and parodied Death Metal Underground for Lance Viggiano’s negative Sadistic Metal Review of Condor’s recently released inferior third album, Sangreal. Apparently reviews of metal records evaluating the actual music behind the recording when compared to the works of past greats is autistic to Degtyarov, who only judges metal by how well it conforms to his Slavic nationalist Weltanschauung. Lance Viggiano speculating that a Black Ivory Tower contributor writing an ultimately boring upon repeated listening album due to chugging wine coolers and wearing The Rocky Horror Picture Show makeup like Sentence of Death era Destruction wounded what appears to be quite a fragile ego.

Accusations of autism from an individual sporting such a juvenile avatar hold as much worth as cries of sexism from former members and Demonic Christ-shirted shills of Anal Cunt. Attempting to asininely conceal past and present youthful fascination with emasculated Japanese pop culture by latching onto a relatively local to the “wartore hellshit of Serbia”1 blackened heavy metal movement is ludicrous. With Black Ivory Tower’s “melodic black metal” rapidly regressing into rock resembling Mercyful Fate attempting to copy Metallica‘s self-titled MetallicaBlack Album” in the early 90s instead of merely repeating themselves, Degtyarov feels the need to lash out at Death Metal Underground’s negative reviews of a work from a band we have previously praised merely as he cherishes his association with that group as one of his scenester security blankets.

Ignyaz Degtyarov should retreat to his childhood bedroom in a decrepit pre-fabricated brutalist apartment block. Only there may the “nerd idiot crouching on carpet screaming in his socks”2 throw tantrums that only his parents, neighbors, and eventually the local police can hear.

1Thanks gromcrom!
2Nuclear War Now! forum troll gromcrom’s broken English continues to inspire.

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35 thoughts on “Degtyarov Disses Death Metal Underground”

  1. This bickering is not metal. I don’t like it.

    1. C.M. says:

      Agreed and seconded. BIT guy is right about bickering like this putting DMU on the same level of MetalCucks, while at once ironically contributing to said bickering. Whoring for clicks is one thing, but… fuck. BIT has some worthwhile articles as well.

      1. Degtyarov says:

        “while at once ironically contributing to said bickering”

        The difference is I keep the bickering to FB shitposting, where it belongs.

        1. Chad says:

          Yeah but is FB shitposting netting you money so you and babushka can pound Czech lager?

          1. Degtyarov says:

            Unlike DMU I don’t run ads, so I don’t need to monetize fake outrage.

            1. Misanthrope says:


        2. C.M. says:

          Neither party is acting righteously here. Personally I have no beef with you or your blog and in fact really appreciated the article on diversity in metal.


    2. Misanthrope says: is not really metal either. Metal hasn’t been metal since the nerds crashed the party in the late 80s.


        Dismember – Override of the Overture

        Pure metal.

  2. ANUSaanite says:

    Also, Japanese pop culture didn’t bring good wholesome video games that imparted strong values like Doom 2 and Mortal Kombat 2.

    1. C.M. says:

      Probably your comment was not sincere but I would point to the Final Fantasy series which (mainly from 4 to 9) featured some strong nationalist themes that were never seen in Western RPGs.

      1. 8==D says:

        Also, “effeminate” Japanese culture is some of the least feminist fiction out there. No Jewish influence whatsoever

      2. ANUSaanite says:

        Yes, and I agree. Just painting with a broad brush to be an asshole for a day.

  3. Degtyarov says:

    Don’t be mad bro. That SMR piece I lampooned was a lazy blurb and you too should realise that. It’s writing like that as well as the present article that is turning this place into MetalSucks with a more elitist façade.

    1. Rainer Weikusat says:

      That was a one parapgraph opinion someone wrote on some music. In contrast to this, your’s is just a completely generic “Difference of opinion detect! Hang those bastards!” rant enriched with completely nonsensical word combinations such as »autists trying to differentiate themselves«. That’s roughly “blind people who’d like to lose their eyesight”.

      1. Degtyarov says:

        That rant was for 80% written by a DMU editor. I merely changed the subject of the rant to demonstrate how easy it is to take someone down with gratuitous insults. Given this article, it appears I didn’t succeed in communicating this point.

    2. Misanthrope says:

      Someone get this man a cigar. “MetalSucks with a more elitist façade”. Spot on.

  4. 8==D says:

    Who gives a fuck about this faggy internet drama when GOD EMPEROR WON THE ELECTION




    1. GGALLIN1776 says:

      Hopefully Grim Kim’s leftover crack face will be impaled upon said wall. Just sayin…

      1. Crab Tempura says:

        Totally did not see this coming:

        1. I'm trying to read my cybernovel says:

          yes, I agree with her: when dumb annoying attention whores get death threats it must be the newly elected president’s fault

        2. Rainer Weikusat says:

          You’ve now successfully brought this lady to my attention. But she doesn’t seem interesting.

      2. canadaspaceman says:

        I want pics of her lobster claw, nudies/ selfies when she was drunk, or just good bust shots, I ain’t picky.
        A great piece of advice I ignored a long time ago from a white power guy was, “who cares about her politics if you can get her in bed?”

        1. Rainer Weikusat says:

          People usually put so much paint in their faces for a reason.

          As far as I can tell from the one text I sort-of read, the lady cultivates the habit of encouraging (low status) dimwits to (try) to flirt with her in order to run them superiorly into ground once she becomes seriously bored with the proceedings using a textbook imitation of ‘male boasting’, eg “I talk to Lars Ulrich and you don’t!” or “I recognize the Bathory logo and you didn’t!” (Sorry, don’t care for good looking young men. What was the point?).

          Stax. Thrax! eine taube Frau zu nehmen!
          O Thrax, das nenn ich dumm.
          Thrax. Ja freilich, Stax! ich muß mich schämen.
          Doch sieh, ich hielt sie auch für stumm.


          Free translation: “Don’t you think marrying a deaf woman was a bit silly?” “Well, yes. But I thought she was mute as well”.

    2. canadaspaceman says:

      Trump was tight with the Clintons before, so nothing much will change.
      It seemed Trump was trying hard to fuck it all up so he couldn’t win, especially after a high level guy was recently assassinated (the veiled threat was even bragged about on TV by some ZOG worker).
      It was a direct threat at Trump that he is as easy to get, anytime.

      I forgot the reason, but they did the same thing to Ronald Reagan, that shot at him was never meant to be fatal, but to isolate him and warn him;
      that Ronnie could be killed if he didn’t do ,what the elite rich that run this planet, did what he was told to do.

  5. HH says:

    I dig Sangreal (not their best effort) and I like Viggiano’s reviews and I don’t get offended if the DMU Staff rip apart albums I like.

    1. “Sangreal” the song is cool. The rest of the album just doesn’t live up to it and drags on and on. When the interlude hits, you want to turn it off.

    2. LostInTheANUS says:

      I agree, I like some really tacky Slavic black metal for the sole reason I’m a Slav even though I can clearly hear that I should rather go listen to Graveland instead. There’s just some part of me that likes it purely on some sentimental level to such a degree that it clouds my judgement.

      1. Anthony says:

        There’s nothing “tacky” about quality Slavic black metal. Dub Buk annihilates 90% of black metal, and it’s great workout music to boot.

        1. LostInTheANUS says:

          Of course there’s nothing tacky about quality Slavic black metal, I was talking about mediocre Slavic black metal.

          1. Necronomeconomist says:

            But can you clarify your stance on shite Slavic black metal? Would you consider that ‘tacky’ or merely ‘annhilative’?

        2. hot buttered pumpkin says:


          Dub Buk is better than 90% of black metal… Do you mean their whole catalogue or specific albums?

          1. Anthony says:

            I would say most of their catalog is, at least. I’m still not all the way sold on that final album, but the three full-lengths before it went in an interesting direction, particularly on Русь понад усе!. Sort of like what Absu did on Tara, where they were combining multiple generations of metal songwriting with black metal technique. Their two demos are really cool too, though a bit more standard Slavic keyboard-y black metal compared to their later stuff.

            ANUS used to talk about “percussive death metal” a lot, referring to Fleshcrawl and Suffocation mostly IIRC. Dub Buk’s full-lengths are sort of like black metal’s answer to that particular clade of metal’s phylogeny.

  6. Billy Foss says:

    The end is near…

    I’m thinking of getting a Sentence of Death perm.

    Any tips?

  7. Anthony says:

    Also, both Demonic Christ and Cóndor’s new album are high quality/high energy stuff.

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